TheJollyCorner
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Remember the good old days when all Nomura was made fun of for were belts and zippers? 
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Final Fantasy VII Remake shifts to internal dev under Mobius project leader
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It doesn't matter, as there's definitely going to be some financial and development strain because of FF VII. I hope I'm wrong, and that SE has some team secretly working on it that we don't really know about.
EDIT: This is what I meant:
Even though SE has multiple teams, they still have a limited number of resources to make games within those teams. We know Tabby's team is focusing on a new IP, and other teams are working on KH3 and FF VII R simultaneously. This seems like a lot of work at once, and we know their employee size is smaller compared to big western developers. My guess is a skeleton crew for FF XVI for many years to come, unless one of these games comes out soon.
S-E doesn't have unlimited resources, even if they have multiple teams. Even if XVI wasn't a problem when VII Remake was greenlighted and started production,I'm sure S-E had to re-evalute their schedule and management when the project had to switch from CC2 to internal development.
Death Penalty
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On a personal level, if it's a long wait or an FFXIII/FFXV, I'll take the long wait. It might be that Nomura can't make good games in HD either, but I'd like to see proof of that before I write him off.
Gai Murakumo
Member
This game is never going to come out, but if it does be prepared to buy a PS5.
DarkLordMalik
Member
He released the Kingdom Hearts games. In. HD. As a remaster.He hasn't released a single HD game. Ever.
Is that not proof enough?
j/k
He wasn't written off FFXV and had the work done under his management scrapped for no reason.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
I'd love to see what CC2 was making and deemed "unacceptable" causing the switch to internal. Was it a Nomura power struggle/clash of ideas?
The FF13Versus tell all isn't as interesting to me because the long and short of it is Nomura pissed about for a decade and engine troubles compounded that. A tell all on how they're failing with UE4 and that outside party friction interests me a lot more.
Don't forget, at the same time Nomura fails to remake an already written and designed game, Yoko Taro made money with a Nier sequel by putting his trust in Platinum Games.
The FF13Versus tell all isn't as interesting to me because the long and short of it is Nomura pissed about for a decade and engine troubles compounded that. A tell all on how they're failing with UE4 and that outside party friction interests me a lot more.
Don't forget, at the same time Nomura fails to remake an already written and designed game, Yoko Taro made money with a Nier sequel by putting his trust in Platinum Games.
Death Penalty
Member
And then was placed to lead a full HD remake from the ground up of SE's most prestigious game? That doesn't really seem to support the incompetence explanation.
I find it insanely interesting how quiet and closed doors everything was on FFXV was under Nomura.....Tabata comes in, opens the flood gates and we had literally new information at every turn and I loved it....got to see Dev progress and what they were working on. It was a refreshing experience to see the engine come together.
So what makes SE management not want Nomura releasing information without their permission.....hm? Maybe because hes untrustworthy and can't get shit done?
I mean Nomura is struggling to release....a fucking remake here.....a game with nearly a complete story and already told tale......it shouldn't be this insane to get information.
So what makes SE management not want Nomura releasing information without their permission.....hm? Maybe because hes untrustworthy and can't get shit done?
I mean Nomura is struggling to release....a fucking remake here.....a game with nearly a complete story and already told tale......it shouldn't be this insane to get information.
There were just as many people criticizing him for showing nothing or unfinished parts that made the game look unflattering.
You literally cant win with FF.
It could be that's just how HE is. Or maybe like you said. SE didn't want him showing anything because nothing was getting done.
Say what you want about FFXV, but Tabata came in. Got shit done and put out a game that's still getting support. And the game is doing very well for itself.
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ABSOLUTELY
AND I can;t wait to replay it on my X.....I doubled dipped deluxe edition lol
You asked for facts that would lead you to think that he can't direct good HD games, not for proof that he is not a good director. The fact that the Versus project was hypothetically flawed and S-E wasn't happy with it doesn't mean that Nomura is a bad director.
A fantasy based on updates
Tabata Final Fantasy XV's communication was very open in its late development, and so was Yoshida in FFXIV A Realm Reborn. Why is the rules so different with Nomura's team? I thought those two are SE's approach to their flagship games forward?
artsi
Member
That's exactly the question.
The likely scenario is that he hasn't got shit done yet and SE wants to hide that embarassing fact with a gag order.
TheJollyCorner
Member
I would feel better about this.
Hell, when the reveal trailer hit and it showed him as just Producer and Nomura as Director, my stomach dropped a bit.
HerroRygar
Member
Yeah I can't imagine another reason why. This also reeks of Nomura's Versus XIII run-around, which ended up being, surprise, fucking nothing. I'm sure FFVIIR is pretty fucked, but at least KH3 seems to be going ok. 😐
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Remember this quote too:
Everybody hope there are capable Co-Directors at BD1 to handle the majority of FFVIIR's day-to-day work from now on.
Also today's comment from him about his feeling a heavy burden reminds me of something else he said recently:
Nomura should just take a break from directing AAA games and do creative work on smaller projects. Not everybody is fit for managerial work and there's no shame in accepting that. Directing games in general is already hard, but directing games of this scale even more so.
I know I sound like a broken record, but BD5 can definitely handle FFXVI for the next 3-4 years. SE needs another mainline FF besides FFVIIR announced for the series' near future right now.
For comparison's sake:
FFXV was announced in 2013. We got our first Active Time Report in 2014. We got 30 minutes worth of information, including real-ass gameplay.
FF7R was announced in 2015. We can't even get a new trailer in 2017.
Nomura is simply fucking up again.
But given his recent statements, this isn't Nomura's fault. The studio is forcing him to keep tightlipped about the project.
TheMagician
Member
This "game" was announced so early, together with mock up footage, simply to sell and hype up the PS4.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
HD console gaming began in 2005. Let that sink in for a second. Team ICO has released more HD games than Nomura.
It is actually particularly amazing that of the three games that everyone was convinced were
AKA: "We haven't actually started development yet."
They'll have a separate trailer for that.
You'll see what looks like gameplay but at the end of the trailer it'll say "Now in development".
CrimsonCrescendo
Banned
You'd think after almost 2 1/2 years of development they'd have something to show off.
No, we definitely need to see more pictures of what is essentially the tutorial area of the game.
GregLombardi
Member
And it will not work on me for PS5. I will buy the game on PC if they shift it to PS5.
What is Nomura good for, exactly? What would he bring to the table here?
Pretty sure at this point we all are getting the same vibe...
I wouldn't be at all surprised if that after FF7 remake and KH3 are both fully in the rear-view mirror that Nomura will be released from Square Enix (or leave on his own).
It's obvious to me that he enjoys nebulous, unleashed development without deadlines and although his bosses appreciate his creative ideas he simply cannot stick to a schedule or get anything done in a timely fashion, ever.
It's obvious to me that he enjoys nebulous, unleashed development without deadlines and although his bosses appreciate his creative ideas he simply cannot stick to a schedule or get anything done in a timely fashion, ever.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I will never stop believing.
This is the game that I have been waiting for since Wada-san showed up on E3 and showed us the stupid tech demo for PS3. The reveal video of this remake is the one video that I always return to and analyse the shit out of each and every week.
This is the game. When this game is released, I'm done. I have no more expectations out of life.
This is the game.
Take your time, Nomura-san.
This is the game that I have been waiting for since Wada-san showed up on E3 and showed us the stupid tech demo for PS3. The reveal video of this remake is the one video that I always return to and analyse the shit out of each and every week.
This is the game. When this game is released, I'm done. I have no more expectations out of life.
This is the game.
Take your time, Nomura-san.
After CT remake/sequel im done too
MAN
That Tech Demo was the ONLY reason I initially looked at the PS3.....I was so young at the time I thought it was just a demo and was going to become a full game. I always held hope for a remake.....but now that it was announced we need someone to really help Nomura out here.
Dark stuff.
Death Penalty
Member
Fair enough.
Being a good director and a creative?
Not saying he's SE best (not even close), but the dude knows his stuff.
