LoserMakesGood
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Only if they wanted this game to come out this generation. Can't wait to pick this up when it finally releases at the tail end of the PS5's life cycle.
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Final Fantasy VII Remake Team Urgently Recruiting, Heres A Message From Key Staff
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Only if they wanted this game to come out this generation. Can't wait to pick this up when it finally releases at the tail end of the PS5's life cycle.
Edge_Maverick
Member
Lord Toriyama-sama to the rescue!
Agreed. I'm still worried though. I am getting to a point where I believe trusting E3 trailers is the wrong thing to do. It seems the FF team has not made much headway even though when this announcement released years ago, we had a CG trailer with in-game gameplay.
I trailer might sate me, but I don't get hyped until I see some demo footage.
KZXcellent
Member
That's true, they've never said the game is "Episodic" but the whole story will be released in parts. They said as far back as Dec. of 2015 that each part would be a full game and not a small taste.
LordKasual
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Lord Tabata
BELEE
The Last One
Member
But that's what they meant. Each "episode" is a whole game.
If they let someone else handle the story, Toriyama directing actually don't look so bad
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
They haven't really made clear what they mean, but I think most of us are expecting a FFXIII style trilogy of three completely standalone games. Cloud Returns, 2025.
Nah, this is better:
He was part of the original team after all. haha
Surprised they haven't announced Toriyama as co-director.
1)He's very experienced in HD development.
2)He actually worked on the original.
3)Long time working partner with Kitase as well.
KZXcellent
Member
I can see where you're coming from. At this point if they're gonna release a trailer with gameplay for FF7R it needs to look polished. The previous trailer's gameplay had hilariously bad framerate but it made sense since they were very early in development but if they can't get the footage to look good even for a trailer then they got issues.
As for how much progress has been made it's an unknown. I'd like to be optimistic but we need to see more and not just from the intro.
He's working on FFXVI obviously.
JordanN
Banned
I would be fine with that.
Imagine if it's a PS5 launch title? That would have you covered for months.
The Last One
Member
That was a joke =(
KZXcellent
Member
Ouch
I think it could be a translation error as well. We know there's some parts of the game that are in a state that can be shown since Nomura did show Famitsu some footage a couple months back and he also wanted to show a video at MAGIC but it got vetoed by higher ups. Kitase also said in Feb they were almost done with the Japanese voice acting for the main story so signs show progress is already underway.
XVI is probably not really being considered at all.
SE could go under ,gaming market could crash, WW3 could kick off before anything FF16-related happens.
And it would look like shit because it was made for last gen in mind. 4K towns are hard and all that jazz...
I want to be cynical and say KH3 is years off...but logically, it just has to release next year. No more HD remasters or collections could release to be the 'yearly' Kingdom Hearts game. I mean, they COULD try to sell another demo (like they did with 2.8 pairing the original experience with a remaster and movie), but they have nothing to pair it with. 2018 NEEDS to have a new KH's game release and KH3 is going to be that game.
The bigger question, is if it will be 'complete' or 'rushed'. I am leaning on the later, due to how Square Enix rushed FFXV after it being in development for way to long conceptually before full development began once it was called FFXV. It's good, considering they are supporting the game and everything now, but it is still a rushed game.
KH3 could suffer from that but at this point, I don't care. I just want to play the damn game already. They had since 2013 to get the game complete and with it's more cartoony art direction and using a good engine (UE4), things should be easier for the team compared to FFXV. I think they are being quiet for KH3 so the other KH Collections get their time in the spotlight. Now that both are out, we will get a large information blow out at E3.
Major story trailer, Star Wars or Frozen announced for a world, release date and new 'demo' releasing alongside major Square Enix game this fall (likely the Mount Olympus world teased at the end of KH2.8); that would make people confident thinking 'Yes! This isn't vaporware. It really is a real game'.
And think about this; Disney owns KH's, not Square Enix. Disney has major properties they want to push. Star Wars, Pixar Films (Cars 3, Coco), Disney Animated Studios Productions (Zootopia, Big Hero 6, Wreck It Ralph, Tangled, Frozen, Moana, Gigantic, etc) and more. KH's can be a tool for this but with the games taking so long to produce, Disney likely is getting impatient.
If anything, they would be pushing for KH3 to be a 2018 release and demand it's high quality. And I don't blame them honestly; it's been way to long since the last original RPG Kingdom Hearts game (2012's Dream Drop Distance).
Ganon Dragmire
Member
Fuck it. Get Tabata off his project again and have him help too. Let the real reunion happen.
ZombiePlatypus
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SE's crown jewel. If there's one project that SE should be throwing all their money at, this is it.
MetalliCabombination
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Eh staff requirements keep fluctuating in every major project.
And id rather they take their time than give us another high potential low output product like xv.
Its quite obvious that this is now ff16 in all but name.
Hopefully theyve started working on actual 16 as well and only announce it once theyre close to release.
7r, if all goes well, should ease the pressure off of them to announce 16 this soon.
Now we know both ito and toriyama are doing something that either arent willing to reveal yet. And as weird as it is, i dont even hate 13 anymore, infact id like the team to contribute to the next game's design and visuals which were phenomenal. I guess tabata too but isnt he going to do a new ip or something?
Oh and 14 guy and ito should absolutely be heading 16, but they probably wont let 14 guy go since 14 is a cashcow now
And id rather they take their time than give us another high potential low output product like xv.
Its quite obvious that this is now ff16 in all but name.
Hopefully theyve started working on actual 16 as well and only announce it once theyre close to release.
7r, if all goes well, should ease the pressure off of them to announce 16 this soon.
Now we know both ito and toriyama are doing something that either arent willing to reveal yet. And as weird as it is, i dont even hate 13 anymore, infact id like the team to contribute to the next game's design and visuals which were phenomenal. I guess tabata too but isnt he going to do a new ip or something?
Oh and 14 guy and ito should absolutely be heading 16, but they probably wont let 14 guy go since 14 is a cashcow now
I'm sure they got something in the backroom brewing. We hopefully won't hear about it for a long while though. A long long while. Still got FFXV to focus on with all the goddamn updates it's been getting and of course FF7R.
KZXcellent
Member
I think KH3 is in a better position when it comes to content possibly being cut. Given the game's Disney worlds are very much self-contained they can easily just cut one of the unannounced worlds to save some time.
This isn't even a new concept for the series. Dream Drop Distance dropped a world for Space Paranoids (original Tron) and Fantasia 2000. Birth by Sleep cut The Jungle Book and 358/2 Days cut a Pinocchio world. They're pretty used to trimming things down to meet deadlines and I think that's a good way for them to the game out in a timely manner and not have to make the last act of the game a rushed mess ala Final Fantasy XV.
I'm confident that KH3 will come out 2018 and will feel just as solid and complete as Osaka Team's previous outings w/ BBS and DDD. Here's hoping that comes to pass, I'd prefer not to get burned.
Oh Square could definitely let us know about it as soon as this E3.
They could show off a flashy CG trailer with sexy character design ,but none of it would amount to anything for at least a decade.
This company needs much much better over sight. How do they consistently have so many problems and issues with development? Its baffling. Get your shit together SE. Just Get your shit together. Just...just get it all together, get your shit together. Get it all, put in a bag, and make sures its together.
get your shit together
NoctisVsStar
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Takes too long it's a problem.
Releases half baked supported via dlc it's a problem.
¯\_(ツ
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I just think games in general are getting more complex however, SE problem is announcing shit early. I've noticed a good portion of people assume a trailer means that they been working on it for years when it's not the case for SE at least.
Releases half baked supported via dlc it's a problem.
¯\_(ツ
_/¯ I just think games in general are getting more complex however, SE problem is announcing shit early. I've noticed a good portion of people assume a trailer means that they been working on it for years when it's not the case for SE at least.
KZXcellent
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Takes too long it's a problem.
Releases half baked supported via dlc it's a problem.
¯\_(ツ
I just think games in general are getting more complex however, SE problem is announcing shit early. I've noticed a good portion of people assume a trailer means that they been working on it for years when it's not the case for SE at least.
I love how when KH3 was revealed Nomura immediately says in an interview "Yeah, we revealed this way too early" as much as I loved the one-two-punch of XV and KH3 back in 2013 it wasn't the best idea in the long run.
100%TrophyMaster
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SE should have saved that E3 2015 trailer for 2020 at this rate.
MagnaderAlpha
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4)Plot/story ideas aside, he's actually a capable director of "large scale" games and knows how to move production along rather efficiently (for the most part).
This is where I think Nomura is flawed. he's good with smaller, tighter projects. When things get too big, the dude's head goes spinning and he starts making that "uhhhhh" noise that Tina Belcher from Bob's Burger makes.
I blame a lot of this on Kitase. I know he believes Nomura's artistic eye is a great pro for these games, and it IS, but Nomura lacks the chops to handle massive projects. I think THEY (Square Enix's higher ups like Kitase) believe in some twisted logic that, eventually, Nomura will eventually learn to handle it. It don't seem that's the case. Some people got it, some don't. Instead of forcing a square peg into a round hole, get a round peg.
Takes too long it's a problem.
Releases half baked supported via dlc it's a problem.
¯\_(ツ
I just think games in general are getting more complex however, SE problem is announcing shit early. I've noticed a good portion of people assume a trailer means that they been working on it for years when it's not the case for SE at least.
Square Enix announces a game as soon as someone thought of it on the toilet. This should be known by now.
eyeball_kid
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Fuck it. Get Tabata off his project again and have him help too. Let the real reunion happen.
Who is the guy in the middle? He looks like a Kaneko-drawn SMT character.
DarkLordMalik
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The replies in this thread are killing me.
Thanks for the laughs, GAF.
Thanks for the laughs, GAF.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Holy shit, is that rrally Tabata?Fuck it. Get Tabata off his project again and have him help too. Let the real reunion happen.
Toriyama.
NoctisVsStar
Member
Facts. But they do it for investors and to drive up the console install base.. shitty of course but it's the nature of the business.
You'll be surprised how naive some are.
paragonpro
Banned
What does "development progress phase" imply does that mean the past two years were just pre production?
KZXcellent
Member
Yeah and it works. That reveal was stellar so I'm not too broken up about it.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
But Sony just wants to "win" E3 and people fall for the square reveals every time.
good advice but yeah everyone lives for the hype lol.
yep
Before the clusterfuck of modern Square stole his soul