semiconscious
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I remember losing an hour's worth of progress in the sandsea back in 2006
i almost just did that today! & this's my third playthrough!
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Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age |OT| You Had One Job!
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i almost just did that today! & this's my third playthrough!
...Young Magus
Junior Member
So yo,
I just fought/got Belias and I'm back in the town area.
Any sidequest I should look out for or should I just go to the next story point?
I just fought/got Belias and I'm back in the town area.
Any sidequest I should look out for or should I just go to the next story point?
Right after you fight Belias. I personally went White Mage first.
A lot of hunts should be open at this point; might be a good idea to do some of those.
Young Magus
Junior Member
Drillary Clinton
Banned
Foebreaker/Shikari is powerful as hell wow
You get them from the hunt board in a bar and Montblanc in the hunter's club, the main story introduced you to him in the early game, his hunts are harder than the board one.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Hold up. There are spells attainable only through clan ranks?
jimmypython
Member
Someone correct me if I am wrong, doesn't FF14 play similarly too?
Yeah. The clan shop in the muthru bazaar in Rabanastre will carry a couple of things, including decoy, drain, and syphon (aspir).
As an aside, one of the best things you unlock via the clan shop is the cat-ear hood. In this version of the game, it converts all gained LP into gil (LP * CharacterLv * 5), and it stacks based on the number of characters who have it equipped. Equipping it on 3 moderately leveled characters and cruising them through even the first 10 levels of trial mode is a super fast way to make money.
Pinko Marx
Banned
XIV is straight up and down a WoW clone with an FF flavor.
Still an awesome MMO but nowhere close to building or even aping XI or XII style gameplay.
encephalon
Member
Looks like I had misremembered the nature of the relationship between Venat and Vayne.
RPGCrazied
Member
Silence does make it easier, I did it. He still uses renew though, which sucks. Haste is important too.
All it did by beating him
All it did by beating him
was unlocking areas to high for me. lol
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
This game... This excitement I feel while playing. It's been a while. 👴
Big Chungus
Member
I think I messed up...
I made Fran into a Red Mage like the OP says...but i'm not feeling it, she hardly does any damage.
Now im not sure who to make into a healer...Ashe or Penelo.
halp
I made Fran into a Red Mage like the OP says...but i'm not feeling it, she hardly does any damage.
Now im not sure who to make into a healer...Ashe or Penelo.
halp
Astral Dog
Member
This or Persona 5
also how much FFXII cost $60?
also how much FFXII cost $60?
Well have you got to subclasses? I did Archer first then RDM for Fran. Don't fret---once she gets bows gaht damn her damage is ridiculous. Plus once you get her turnt up on the LP on RDM you can see some crazy numbers.
Her and Ashe do obscene damage just with base attacks. Fran with bow and Ashe with xbows.
Edit: @Sub Boss---This. I LOVED Persona 4. Still my favorite JRPG of all time. I had high hopes for Persona 5, but that game looses steam after dungeon 3/4, and never manages to pick it back up. You will start wishing it was over because of pacing and character issues. People think Penlelo is a trash tier character, but I can't even recall the last girl you get in your cast from Persona 5 because she's that much of a throwaway character.
Go with this. You will thank yourself because games like this just don't come around anymore. It only gets better the further I have gotten in, and x2 x4 speed up makes it a fun and quick romp when you want to grind out levels, LP, and some items to get money.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Naw red mages are pretty great, but it takes time to get things going.
Make Penelo in a healer.
Red mage is one of the best jobs in the game, honestly. I've beaten the International version twice with a solo red mage. Pick up the magick lore licenses, and pair it with another job that has a lot of magick lore licenses (like black mage) once you get access to second jobs. Mace damage is also calculated based on magic attack, so it's extremely beneficial to get that as high as you can as early as you can.
Dark is an extremely good, efficient spell at the start of the game, btw.
RPGCrazied
Member
Its $45 on Amazon.
I say get this first. I liked P5, but this will keep you satisfied for weeks. Its a giant game.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Uh, Persona 5 isn't? haha
RPGCrazied
Member
True. I spent 85 hours with P5. I guess it depends on what you want. Anime or more Final Fantasies, its one of the better ones in my opinion. This and X are my favorite.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
In addition to the Hunts already mentioned, post-Raithwall a few dungeons sort of open up.
Gameplay/non-story spoilers:
You can access Zertinan Caverns proper now from Ozmone Plains; you can re-access Barheim Passage and across to the West Annex now because you can now take the ferry across the Estersand river to complete the Barheim Passage quest; a few 'strong' weapons are now available early at this point, too: Demonsbane, Deathbringer, Arcturus, Iga Blade, Platinum Dagger, ummm I think three different hammers/axes via Barheim chests or rare drop in Zertinan; Kikuiasdfasdf katana and I think also Aki-no-whatever too. Basically, a large variety of 70-99 Attack Power weapons when I think shops only sell about ATK 50ish at that point.
They'll break the story difficulty though, which may or may not already be buckling under possibly being overleveled or too well augmented hhhh.
But you're likely to get your butt kicked in those areas anyhow, so you kinda need one or two of them to help [efficiently] get the rest. Some of the Hunts at this point too are well above the story level so they greatly help with those.
I grabbed Arcturus first because the Silent Shot helped with all the damn spell-casting ghosts/skellies in Barheim, and you can get a Berserker Glove (in north Estersand) while getting the key and that fits a DPS Machinist well. Then I grabbed a Deathbringer and various other things from Barheim (the place is loaded with chests) and that sort of boosted help me survive early in Zertinan Caverns. It also helps greatly at this point (minor character spoiler) because
Larsa joins your party again and thanks to the new Guest control in TZA, you can give him a Gambit to cast Bubble on your party which means even at Lv25-29 you probably got like 6000-7500 HP lol thanks to the new License Boards
Astral Dog
Member
KyanMehwulfe
Member
I really love Dark, too. I kept using my RDM instead of my WHM because instead of just using Cura and being gimpy with a rod, my RDM was busting out <if Enemy HP = 100%, use Dark> for fairly great but also efficient area-effect and initial DPS. I relegated my WHM to my OOC heal/buff bot lol.
Impulsor
Member
So I managed to get 6 seitengrat bows in a row. Nothing was working for me.
It was probably due to my ssd. Once the chest spawn I just had to count 3 times for the boy to reach his parent instead of 4. I assume this is because loading times between zoning are quicker for me and as soon as I loaded into the deck the kid had already stopped in front of his parent once, thus I was never getting the seitengrat because I was actually opening the chest on the 5th time instead of the 4th.
So when I was in front of the chest i counted 3 instead of 4, which totals to 4, and got the bow every time I did that, 6 times in a row.
Just on case some of you guys are having the same problem. Try counting 3 instead of 4.
It was probably due to my ssd. Once the chest spawn I just had to count 3 times for the boy to reach his parent instead of 4. I assume this is because loading times between zoning are quicker for me and as soon as I loaded into the deck the kid had already stopped in front of his parent once, thus I was never getting the seitengrat because I was actually opening the chest on the 5th time instead of the 4th.
So when I was in front of the chest i counted 3 instead of 4, which totals to 4, and got the bow every time I did that, 6 times in a row.
Just on case some of you guys are having the same problem. Try counting 3 instead of 4.
I always wondered how was Fran voice in Japanese, but I love her NA voice too much to care.
Yabberwocky
Member
FFXII and Persona 5 both have a ton of content, but at least FFXII is quite flexible about what you choose to complete (ie. hunts, optional areas/dungeons.) I sadly found I got quite burnt out on P5 half way through, and there is very little in P5 that is skippable to power through to the next main story beat. (Though I guess you could just skip the social links entirely, that would cut down some time, be a bit of a shame, though.) If you start to feel burnt out on FFXII, it's a lot easier - and now speedier! - to get to the end, or the next main story beat. They are both great games, though, FFXII is probably just more flexible and gives the player a lot more freedom if that's something you like in an RPG.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
^ No, just LP.
∇ Also, no. Not much point using it in general situaitons There are some good items you can get from it, but they're so few and far between that it's usually something you learn from a FAQ or the Wikia weapon/armor list, and then you specifically try Poach that monster -- I've never ran a general Gambit for it before. That said, as a huge fan of Poaching in FF Tactics, I applaud you if you try use it and discover all the poached items yourself hhhh~
∇ Also, no. Not much point using it in general situaitons There are some good items you can get from it, but they're so few and far between that it's usually something you learn from a FAQ or the Wikia weapon/armor list, and then you specifically try Poach that monster -- I've never ran a general Gambit for it before. That said, as a huge fan of Poaching in FF Tactics, I applaud you if you try use it and discover all the poached items yourself hhhh~
A Serious Man
Member
Do you still get xp/lp if you Poach something? Should I be using it?
It doesn't count as a kill so nothing except for poached loot.
RPGCrazied
Member
Nope, just LP.
Though they do level up kinda quickly. My Ashe is gaining steam to my others at level 33. She is mid 20's now.
I started to level her up when she was like level 9 when my main 3 were in their mid twenties.
Jinfash
needs 2 extra inches
Ah, 100% LP? If so, that's still not too bad.
Nachtfalke
Member
I have Bash as a Knight / Bushi with a katana and Genji gloves. Because of the latter the katana is a no-brainer I guess, but I'm wondering if the share of strength/magic is equal for damage calculating or should I favor one? Like 2x Heavy Armor, 2x Magic or 1x Magic, 1x Heavy. Suggestions?
About to start and I have a few questions
Thinking about doing this:
Vaan - Breaker/Hunter (Genji glove?)
Ashe - White Mage/Machinist
Basch - Samurai/Knight (Genji glove?)
Penelo - Black Mage/Monk
Balthier - Time Mage/Uhlan
Fran - Red Mage/Archer
Two questions about the team set up:
1. If I remember correctly (it has been awhile) we don't get Ashe until a ways into the game. Would I be okay without a white mage till I get her?
2. Also, this set up should be able to take out any superbosses, ya?
Couple other questions are:
3. Any missable items in this version that I should be worried about?
4. Any missable trophies?
I'd like to go through this without even looking at a guide if the answers to 3 and 4 are no.
Thinking about doing this:
Vaan - Breaker/Hunter (Genji glove?)
Ashe - White Mage/Machinist
Basch - Samurai/Knight (Genji glove?)
Penelo - Black Mage/Monk
Balthier - Time Mage/Uhlan
Fran - Red Mage/Archer
Two questions about the team set up:
1. If I remember correctly (it has been awhile) we don't get Ashe until a ways into the game. Would I be okay without a white mage till I get her?
2. Also, this set up should be able to take out any superbosses, ya?
Couple other questions are:
3. Any missable items in this version that I should be worried about?
4. Any missable trophies?
I'd like to go through this without even looking at a guide if the answers to 3 and 4 are no.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
You won't get Cura until after you have her anyhow so regardless of your Jobs you'll mostly be using potions and Cure.
You're probably sort of OK without Cura until you get your 2nd Jobs even, though that's starting to stretch it (and probably all your Hi-Potions) a fair bit.
So yeah, you're OK without either a WHM or RDM until around or shortly after you get Ashe. Once you get her though it certainly begins to be nice, and within a few hours it'll start getting tricky unless you either have Cura or you're Hi-Potion-rich.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
Thanks, I'm gonna try it tomorrow again. It's nice that everyone can use that bow so I don't have to level up my archer. I guess that wouldn't matter anyway because Fran should be one-shotting everybody.
Oh I didn't know X was in this equation.
FF12
P5
FFX
In my opinion the games in terms of quality. Take in mind though I have NOT completed FF12 ever. I haven't hated a second of it yet though.
P5 as I mentioned has a huge chunk of the game that you may end up hating like others have on here. It has a great payout, but man the pacing has serious issues for a lot of the dungeons.
FFX is a tough call. For me when I tried to play FFX remaster I couldn't get back into it. It just didn't stand the test of time for me. That said when I was younger I LOVED this game, and I still think it is one of the better FF's. Even with P5's shortcomings though I would play P5 over FFX with the taste I have in games now.
Either way you go though there is a good game involved and your own personal tastes will shift which you end up liking more than the next.
Nope, but it is worth using depending on the enemy being poached.
encephalon
Member
Am i crazy for planning to make Ashe a knight-red mage?
I loved FF12 back in the day but man Zodiac Age might go down as my second favorite FF ever behind 7. And to be honest, 7's in the top spot because of nostalgia although it is still perfectly fun to this day. I've never straight up had this much fun actually PLAYING a FF game. Like, if you stripped out all of the story elements, it'd still be fun as fuck to play. Great stuff.
a very cute dog
Member
Each character gets three quickenings, right? So does that mean I shouldn't unlock the first quickening license I see? I have Vaan as a Shikari and I see the quickening license that blocks Ninja Swords 1 but I'm not sure if I should skip that.
They have 4 quickening. Make sure to check both board to see which three you should unlock. For exemple if one cost 80, it'll unlock the same in the second board.
You can always pick 3 our for 4 for every jobs combo