PshycoNinja
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Erm... Where Telegraph and Washington Post were mixed, places like TIME magazine, Vandal, National Post, and Slant are positive. I would say the non-gaming outlets were mostly positive.
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Final Fantasy XV - Review Thread [Second wave of reviews coming in]
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Erm... Where Telegraph and Washington Post were mixed, places like TIME magazine, Vandal, National Post, and Slant are positive. I would say the non-gaming outlets were mostly positive.
And_Gignac
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I am about to be over with it but damn what a disappointment.
That Resident Evil-esque chapter sums up pretty damn well what's wrong about this whole mess of a game.
That Resident Evil-esque chapter sums up pretty damn well what's wrong about this whole mess of a game.
I felt the same way about XV as I did about XIII-2.
I'd place the games around the same tier.
XIII-2 in no way deserves a perfect score,however.That's a joke.
ethomaz
Banned
The Guardian 3/5 added.
Both Metacritic and OpenCritic down to 82.
The Jimquisition give it a 8/10 too.
GhostTrick
Banned
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Did whatshisname end up getting banned for losing the bet?
GhostTrick
Banned
ethomaz
Banned
WoFF got 78 with less reviews.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Pfft, nobody has any honor anymore.Get out, let me be right
Alej ? Nah
PshycoNinja
Member
Which is strange because it was 84, then two 3/5 stars reviews (which reading those reviews the authors thought it was a great game with flaws) and two 9/10 reviews were added and it went down to 82. I am curious how Metacritic weighs its metrics.
Also apparently...Fox News does reviews to?
If all the reviewers from 2010 updated their reviews it would be a different story. Times have changed and XV is better than XIII.
Play it for yourself and see....though for me XV is better.
Bronetta
Ask me about the moon landing or the temperature at which jet fuel burns. You may be surprised at what you learn.
Standards change after 7 years.
ShadowSoldier89
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much, much worse
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
It's similar to FFXIII in terms of quality. Heavily flawed, but not truly terrible.
PshycoNinja
Member
Much, much better than XIII. I see it hard to argue the opposite.
Edit: Three out of five stars for the game from NY Daily News. Review was a good read.
It has two points less on Metacritic, so objectively it's way worse.
ethomaz
Banned
IMO both have strong flaws that breaks what you expect from a FF game. Which is better or not depends in how the flaws affect you.
ethomaz
Banned
Way more reviews were added these last two days... Jim give it a 8/10 for example.
And 6 was 2.3 points below avg. while 9 was 0.7 points above average... of course it will go down... it is math... you need a 10 to counter a 6.
PshycoNinja
Member
Cause that's how it works.
15 reviews vs 83 reviews?
Fuck no, it's gloriously better than XIII. :lol
Mister Megative
Banned
For context, here are some movie/TV scores for Metacritic:
Empire Strikes Back: 80
Captain America: The Winter Soldier: 70
The Avengers: 69
Stranger Things: 76
Doctor Strange: 72
Godfather 2:
Gladiator: 64
Shawshank redemption: 80
Bottom line: metacritic has some serious flaws, and their weighting system is just fucked. Kotaku and Gamasutra have written articles on it.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
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Metacritic doesn't mean the game is objectively worse. Ratings are increasingly hard to get throughout the years
Mister Megative
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Yup. Critics are way harsher This gen, which is good. An 8 means something again.
LordKasual
Banned
This game is objectively better than XIII in just about every area, especially if you're judging XV against its 2016 peers compared to XIII against its 2009 peers. I'd say that XIII was a more polished game, certainly. But that's a meaningless thing when you consider how barren XIII was mechanically as a Final Fantasy or even as an RPG. It's like saying GTA2 is more polished than GTA3. True, but meaningless.
XV's deeper issues are mainly with pacing and what appears to be a story that was rushed / chopped up / condensed too much. The delivery of the plot falters with varying degree across the title, but there's nothing as cheesy or just outright bad as some of the stuff XIII intentionally does, and what's there definitely works as intended. As an added bonus, there is no "Real heroes don't need plans", or "We'll change the future!", or "We live to make the impossible possible!" anime dumbshit present in the writing.
The combat is the most subjective thing. The overall game design is Square Enix typical in emergent depth, easily my favorite FF battle system in the entire series, but it's not without its flaws. The camera can be truly horrible at times, and can ruin some of the game's best moments. But when you get used to the battle system in this game, it just meshes and flows so well, and there is alot of unique content, awesome bosses and just cool stuff to see in the open world. And FFXV's hidden dungeons are simply amazing.
Everything else is just long-running fanbase bias, a dash of that trademark GAF hyperbole, and your typical open-world hangups. I haven't enjoyed a first playthrough of an FF game this much since 7 or 10, and I havent sunk this many hours into an FF game since FF12.
Yes. It's definitely worse than 13.
Anyone arguing that XIII or XV is objectively better than the other is mad. Both games have significant weaknesses that can single-handedly sour your entire experience. Neither game is anywhere near a position where it can claim complete superiority over the other.
That said, I like XIII more than XV.
I'm kind of glad about it too, just because it means that every FFXV retrospective thread until the end of time will have people getting into endless circular Metacritic arguments.
The FFXV story might have been lacking in drama, but the FFXV threads will make up for it.
That said, I like XIII more than XV.
I'm kind of glad about it too, just because it means that every FFXV retrospective thread until the end of time will have people getting into endless circular Metacritic arguments.
The FFXV story might have been lacking in drama, but the FFXV threads will make up for it.
PshycoNinja
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Encapsulates how I feel about XV very well. Thanks!
I remember when I bought XIII, I played it for 15 hours and then sold it. People told me I didn't give it a chance so I re-bought it and played it up until the 25 hour mark and got to the big bowl area and stopped and sold it again.People still told me I didn't give it a chance so I re-bought it and beat it. Stated I still didn't like it and people told me I just didn't have taste and didn't give the game a fair shot.
And that was the last day I posted on the IGN boards.
Eh people saying XV is way better are stretching. Game is full of problems. It's in no way the polished product that XIII is and the individual elements that make up that game all have serious problems.
However as a whole it somehow manages to be more fun and satisfying than XIII. In many ways it's the antithesis of the XIII. It'll have an interesting legacy, especially outside of the honeymoon period.
Astral Dog
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FF is back baby
Agreed. At least for me, this game finally returned the confidence I used to have in the franchise so long ago.
Yabberwocky
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40/40 vengeance for FFXII, ahhhahahahaha. Famitsu knows what's up.
....seriously, I dearly love me some XII (immensely, desperately so), but it's definitely got a lot more issues than the the solid all-rounders from the VI-X bracket. Was it around the FFXII era that Famitsu became a bit more generous with its scores? It's just a bit odd seeing XII/XIII/XV scoring higher than FF-bloody-VI!
toastyToast
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Every good thing about XV is arguable except maybe the world itself (excluding cities) and the graphics. I didn't go with particularly high expectations but some things I found especially disappointing. Mainly the plot and the battle system. The battle system doesn't afford the tactical opportunities that you'd get from a turn based strategy nor the precision required for a well made action game. It's a strange middle ground and combined with the camera can lead to some very sloppy encounters. That said it can seem very good at times but then the points of failure appear and you're chain-chugging potions because you can't see what the hell is going on. The ability to use items whenever really screwed with the balancing. There are a lot of attacks that just down you instantly which would usually suck but here you can just drink a potion and you're back on your feet. There was one boss encounter that was several levels higher than the area it took place in and the whole fight involved nibbling at it's HP and then using Gladio's technique for invincibility and chugging potions. I should not have been able to do that and playing like that at all isn't fun to me.
I'd describe the combat system as haphazardly good.
I'd describe the combat system as haphazardly good.
I finished it last night.
I was really high on the game in the first half but once I hit chapter 9 everything went down hill. The rest of the game was just unfinished disjointed random story sequences that barely made any sense stitched together with gameplay segments of walking through linear corridors.
I would have been fine with all of the linearity if the story made any god damn sense. At this point it's probably my least favorite final fantasy
I was really high on the game in the first half but once I hit chapter 9 everything went down hill. The rest of the game was just unfinished disjointed random story sequences that barely made any sense stitched together with gameplay segments of walking through linear corridors.
I would have been fine with all of the linearity if the story made any god damn sense. At this point it's probably my least favorite final fantasy
Technically maybe 13 is superior overall, but I'd still call XV "way better".
Better characters, world, lore, aesthetic, gameplay, and while 13 had a more coherent story it certainly didn't have a better one - it was just as bad, but in different ways.
I did enjoy 13 though, the battle system, visuals, and music were all great.
XIII didn't have a more coherent story, though. That game also suffered deeply from poor narrative.
I have to disagree there, I'm not gonna argue that 13's story was amazing or anything but I definitely think it at least was more coherent than 15
PshycoNinja
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I...disagree.
I disagree. I found the plot of XV to be a lot easier to understand and follow.
no despresect but I simply cannot comprehend how anyone could have that opinion