By today's standards I think maybe the top 4 and smash bros, Mario Kart might get 90+, not sure many of the rest would
And Zelda.
If Skyward Sword gets 93 i am sure breath of the wild will atleast get a 95.
By today's standards I think maybe the top 4 and smash bros, Mario Kart might get 90+, not sure many of the rest would
Go to the article and they have a table of every 90+ game. Sort by release year.
Code:97 Grand Theft Auto III 8.5 2001 97 Halo: Combat Evolved 8.6 2001 96 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 8.7 2001 95 Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 8.4 2001 94 Devil May Cry 8.5 2001 94 Madden NFL 2002 7.9 2001 93 Mario Kart Super Circuit 8.3 2001 93 Paper Mario 9.2 2001 93 NBA 2K2 7.7 2001 92 SSX Tricky 8.9 2001 92 NHL 2002 8.5 2001 92 Advance Wars 9 2001 92 Super Smash Bros. Melee 9.1 2001 92 Final Fantasy X 8.7 2001 92 Conker's Bad Fur Day 9.2 2001 91 Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil 9.1 2001 91 IL-2 Sturmovik 8.8 2001 91 Twisted Metal: Black 8.4 2001 91 Golden Sun 9.3 2001 91 Castlevania: Circle of the Moon 8.5 2001 90 ICO 8.8 2001 90 Tennis 2K2 8 2001 90 Black & White 7.7 2001 90 Dance Dance Revolution 8.8 2001 90 Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy 8.7 2001 90 Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II 8.6 2001 90 NCAA Football 2002 8.7 2001 90 Unreal Tournament 8.6 2001 90 Sid Meier's Civilization III 8.4 2001 90 NFL 2K2 8 2001 90 Flight Simulator 2002 8.4 2001
I think this list alone demonstrates that it's not just about game quality.
There is zero chance that many sports titles would get 90+ today, and I highly doubt several of the other titles would get to that lofty milestone either.
Take a release like FFXV. Why a game serie which used to score to the likes of 90 and beyond is now sitting at 82 ? Because it's less polished and less good.
What came out in 2001?
ThisI am not seeing a visual depiction of a steady decline.
Or games just got worse and less polished.
Or games just got worse and less polished.
No wonder we see so many "is this gen the worst only for me?" threads.
Honestly this is what I think too. Only publisher I trust in day one at this point is nintendo.
Wanted to get a ps4pro (even had it pre-ordered) but why spend money on a machine when there is a good chance the games I want wont be that great?
What came out in 2001?
It's useful to note that standards have changed, but the problem with these comparisons is that we inevitably see people trying to make equivalencies between score. "Well an 8 is worth more now, so it's basically equal to a 9.5 then."
Stop that. That doesn't help discussions about the merits of a game.
My GOTY 2016 VA11 Hall-A has metacritic rating of 77 (based on 17 critics):
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/va-11-hall-a-cyberpunk-bartender-action
Yet it has 98% on Steam reviews (based on 2270 game owner reviews):
http://store.steampowered.com/app/447530/
I think the industry is moving past Metacritic being relevant.
Or games just got worse and less polished.
Games are infinitely more polished than ever before. When you have a broken game in today's landscape (Aliens Colonial Marine or Afro Samurai 2 come to mind), it's a big controversy, even if it's a niche release.
Not every game in the rose coloured rearview mirror was an OoT or Chrono Trigger. There were more shovels full of crap in the 80s, 90s and early 2000s.
Isn't this largely because there's so many more games released each year these days than ever before.
the quantity of pretty good games has gone up drastically, but the amount of games that really reach amazing heights does feel like its slipping. Looking at 2001, those fucking games deserved those scores. Even the sports games. I played NHL 2002 and Madden 2002 a lot. They were fantastic games. Its hard to imagine the newest versions in either series being even playable at launch now, and are constantly missing great features their predecessors had.did games get worse or did games press get more critical?
That's an interesting thought.Nothing but a sign of the times. Gushing reviews used to get the clicks. That's shifted; now a bashing review gets them.
And I don't mean that in a cynical, "what do we need to write to get click?" sort of way. It's just how the collective conversation has gone.
Go to the article and they have a table of every 90+ game. Sort by release year.
Code:97 Grand Theft Auto III 8.5 2001 97 Halo: Combat Evolved 8.6 2001 96 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 8.7 2001 95 Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 8.4 2001 94 Devil May Cry 8.5 2001 94 Madden NFL 2002 7.9 2001 93 Mario Kart Super Circuit 8.3 2001 93 Paper Mario 9.2 2001 93 NBA 2K2 7.7 2001 92 SSX Tricky 8.9 2001 92 NHL 2002 8.5 2001 92 Advance Wars 9 2001 92 Super Smash Bros. Melee 9.1 2001 92 Final Fantasy X 8.7 2001 92 Conker's Bad Fur Day 9.2 2001 91 Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil 9.1 2001 91 IL-2 Sturmovik 8.8 2001 91 Twisted Metal: Black 8.4 2001 91 Golden Sun 9.3 2001 91 Castlevania: Circle of the Moon 8.5 2001 90 ICO 8.8 2001 90 Tennis 2K2 8 2001 90 Black & White 7.7 2001 90 Dance Dance Revolution 8.8 2001 90 Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy 8.7 2001 90 Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II 8.6 2001 90 NCAA Football 2002 8.7 2001 90 Unreal Tournament 8.6 2001 90 Sid Meier's Civilization III 8.4 2001 90 NFL 2K2 8 2001 90 Flight Simulator 2002 8.4 2001
*looks at chart* what happened to 2006?
It is the DC version because the PS2 got 77.maybe ps2 or dreamcast version
The crazy thing is if you expand that list you get a lot of classics rated as low as the high 70s(Zone of the Enders)Code:97 Grand Theft Auto III 8.5 2001 97 Halo: Combat Evolved 8.6 2001 96 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty 8.7 2001 95 Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 8.4 2001 94 Devil May Cry 8.5 2001 94 Madden NFL 2002 7.9 2001 93 Mario Kart Super Circuit 8.3 2001 93 Paper Mario 9.2 2001 93 NBA 2K2 7.7 2001 92 SSX Tricky 8.9 2001 92 NHL 2002 8.5 2001 92 Advance Wars 9 2001 92 Super Smash Bros. Melee 9.1 2001 92 Final Fantasy X 8.7 2001 92 Conker's Bad Fur Day 9.2 2001 91 Klonoa 2: Lunatea's Veil 9.1 2001 91 IL-2 Sturmovik 8.8 2001 91 Twisted Metal: Black 8.4 2001 91 Golden Sun 9.3 2001 91 Castlevania: Circle of the Moon 8.5 2001 90 ICO 8.8 2001 90 Tennis 2K2 8 2001 90 Black & White 7.7 2001 90 Dance Dance Revolution 8.8 2001 90 Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy 8.7 2001 90 Star Wars Rogue Leader: Rogue Squadron II 8.6 2001 90 NCAA Football 2002 8.7 2001 90 Unreal Tournament 8.6 2001 90 Sid Meier's Civilization III 8.4 2001 90 NFL 2K2 8 2001 90 Flight Simulator 2002 8.4 2001
The standards are higher which definitely has an effect on it but I also think games are worse
Sure, an individual score doesn't tell us much, but I do think that an aggregate score tells us something about a game's perception at a specific time.tbh, looking solely at scores tells us nothing if we don't read the content of the reviews. I'm not sure the original article gives us much discussion.