Not a novel observation but it's funny to me how a certain contingent of the internet population has convinced themselves to be the voice of reason, the champions of facts over emotions etc. but operates on anything but. Starting with the idea that their free speech is being restricted because they're getting punched in the face for saying racist, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic or islamophobic shit.
Absolutely not. There are more dropouts complaining about the political atmosphere on campus for censoring their "opinions" then actually have any significant censoring going on. I went to an extremely liberal private university and there were still pro-lifers demonstrating almost daily and besides giving a slight chuckle, nobody gave a shit.I get that it's a dramatization but does anything even *remotely* close to that scenario in the short clip happen in the states?
And they're in my state? Shame on them, especially Ethan.
I doubt he'd continue to want to get to know the alt right better when he's being hung up a tree for being black. And I can't believe he can't see that.
Some PoC, granted, I see this more in MoC myself, just like to tapdance for the White majority rather than accept that there might be racist biases that go against them thoughHe's like what, 17? Sometimes it takes growing up and experiencing things first hand. That was the case for myself personally.
Facts like sexual sciences not even existing and racism huh"feelings are more important than facts"
Oh snap!
I get that it's a dramatization but does anything even *remotely* close to that scenario in the short clip happen in the states?
I get that it's a dramatization but does anything even *remotely* close to that scenario in the short clip happen in the states?
I get that it's a dramatization but does anything even *remotely* close to that scenario in the short clip happen in the states?
Yeah not saying the kids themselves are guilty of it but it's a whole lot of people who couldn't get in to ivys with a 2.5gpa and blame black people and then lash out at universities all being liberal havens (which to a degree is true because lol many US conservative political policies are based on factually wrong information that wouldn't be backed up by any reputable college or uni)That video... I fucking hate that video because people actually think how college and society at large works. The brain drain in the west is truly alarming.
I find it even worse how acerbic some of the NeoGAF reactions are towards female dominant websites as well. Jezebel, Tumblr, Buzzfeed, etc. are openly shit on here because of their content that appeals to a majority female demographic. Just goes to show that in apparent progressive spaces, there's still a lot of self-reflection to be doneno. what happens is, in places where minority and female voices are elevated straight whites feel their voices pushed down. it's not at all true.
take Tumblr for example. people love to shit on it. people imagine Tumblr as an SJW gulag where whites wait out life sentences and are patrolled by "feminazis". but in reality it's one of the few places online where anyyyyybodyyyyyy can come and post their thing and talk to others about their thing in relative safety from internet bullshit like comment sections and react videos.
"feelings are more important than facts"
Oh snap!
He's like what, 17? Sometimes it takes growing up and experiencing things first hand. That was the case for myself personally.
He's 19, but yeah, I guess it depends on his upbringing.
Though as a woman of color, I knew pretty damn early I would never be considered as good as a white male.
The thing is. This is largely a truism. If how people feel is a more influential factor on their actions then any facts, then those feelings are what needs to be adressed.
Super off topic but I finally recognize where your avatar is from and Tanaka really is the best.
Yeah not saying the kids themselves are guilty of it but it's a whole lot of people who couldn't get in to ivys with a 2.5gpa and blame black people and then lash out at universities all being liberal havens (which to a degree is true because lol many US conservative political policies are based on factually wrong information that wouldn't be backed up by any reputable college or uni)
I had one at 15. Puberty is different for allfuck daniel and his beard at 18.
Now I've seen all of it. Kiss my ass. This isn't how free speech works. You can say whatever you want, the world just has consequences. It's always been this way, nothing has changed. There was time when if you said, "well maybe black people should be able to vote," you could get your teeth kicked in.
That's the key right there. When people say that society is "too sensitive" they just mean they want to peddle hate without consequence. Unfortunately for them, selling outright hatred to the masses doesn't go that well, so you disguise it under the, ironically, PC phrase of "free speech".
And really this whole bitching bout political correctness, offensiveness, and sensitivity has been going on long before these teens were even born. It's never going away. Hell, being offended is as American as apple pie and institutionalized racism.
That's the general impression I tend to get. It's another moral panic made up by conservatives but, props to the people that got it going, this one is pretty insidious because at surface-level it seems agreeable for the layman.Absolutely not. There are more dropouts complaining about the political atmosphere on campus for censoring their "opinions" than actually have it happen.
If there's an article on a single safe space at a single university the alt-right thinks it's an epidemic greater than any modern injustice save for brown terrorists invading the country.
Losing all sense of perspective is key to buying into the whole SJW-nonsense.no. what happens is, in places where minority and female voices are elevated straight whites feel their voices pushed down. it's not at all true.
take Tumblr for example. people love to shit on it. people imagine Tumblr as an SJW gulag where whites wait out life sentences and are patrolled by "feminazis" and the lgbt. but in reality it's one of the few places online where anyyyyybodyyyyyy can come and post their thing and talk to others about their thing in relative safety from internet bullshit like comment sections and react videos.
I was more interested in examples of authority in the classroom doing what was depicted in the video, albeit in a mild manner. The situation at Evergreen is pretty unfortunate and while I don't know the exact timeline surely the faculty should have done more to de-escalate things.Well you can google Evergreen college but be careful you may not want to live on this planet anymore afterwards.
Strange that free speech is only hate speech, when pretty much all the examples show, most of the times people just had a different opinion and now everybody is grasping for straws why this opinion is not valid. People screaming at a feminist because she said something positive about men, people screaming at a professors, because they had a different opinion.
Anyone notice that the Fine Brothers interviewer mentions the statistic that 54% of college students find the climate on campus prevent people from saying what they believe because others might find it offensive, but doesn't mention the other statistics like 78% of college students believe all kinds of speech should be allowed, to the people being interviewed? Kind of leading them on, don't you think?
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Anyone notice that the Fine Brothers interviewer mentions the statistic that 54% of college students find the climate on campus prevent people from saying what they believe because others might find it offensive, but doesn't mention the other statistics like 78% of college students believe all kinds of speech should be allowed, to the people being interviewed? Kind of leading them on, don't you think?
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I'd like you to back this fact up with statistics and sources, otherwise it just reads like a feeling.
The video they watched was hard to get through, but the actual responses from the kids were pretty sensible.
I didn't bother looking into those examples you gave because those are isolated incidents that don't back up your claim that "PC culture" is outright insidious and poisonous to the country at largeBret Weinstein, Jordan Peterson, Christina Hoff Sommers and so on.
I can give you tons of examples of people getting demonstrated against, getting death threads, not be able to give speeches or lectures just because they have a different opinion on things.
I didn't bother looking into those examples you gave because those are isolated incidents that don't back up your claim that "PC culture" is outright insidious and poisonous to the country at large
He didn't claim that.
.Strange that free speech is only hate speech, when pretty much all the examples show, most of the times people just had a different opinion and now everybody is grasping for straws why this opinion is not valid. People screaming at a feminist because she said something positive about men, people screaming at a professors, because they had a different opinion.
I didn't bother looking into those examples you gave because those are isolated incidents that don't back up your claim that "PC culture" is outright insidious and poisonous to the country at large
Oh, that is why President Obama was talking about it about 2 years ago and called it out. Because the President speaks only about isolated incidents.
President Obama knows better than anybody just how sensitive white men are about being told to stop being bigoted assholes. He was trying to prevent the current situation we're in now.
First, don't try to project this "MLK knew all shit" persona onto Obama as an appeal to ethos. It's not going to work.Oh, that is why President Obama was talking about it about 2 years ago and called it out. Because the President speaks only about isolated incidents.
http://reason.com/blog/2016/12/21/president-obama-on-political-correctnessThe president went on to point out that when it comes to political correctness, conservatives are hypocrites. They routinely get themselves worked up, and cite offense, over silly slights, as the Cato Institute's Alex Nowrasteh pointed out in a recent op-ed for The Washington Post:
Read my post again because I told you why I ignored his examples. He replied to a post asking for statistics. He cherrypicked 3 or so incidents. Those are not stats.Yes, he said that PC culture is a thing that happens. Then provided examples. You ignored his examples and then changed his argument to: "PC culture" is outright insidious and poisonous to the country at large". Which he never claimed.
Congratulations making this into a race topic impressive. Sorry, I did not get the this sup-context in his speech I linked about how different opinions should not be oppressed and you should not run away from a discussion. I completely missed the race aspect. I am very sorry.
Read my post again because I told you why I ignored his examples. He replied to a post asking for statistics. He cherrypicked 3 or so incidents. Those are not stats.
Race matters. White guys are always first in line to cry about not being able to be dicks to everyone else free from consequence. Cry more about it, won't stop it from being a fact.