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Full Edge Ueda Interview on The Last Guardian
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Sickboy007
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Also, the "original staff" is just as detail-oriented. Sounds like another slight, if you ask me.
Risk Breaker
Member
People blaming Ueda like he's a one-man team instead of Japan Studio, how predictable.
Bel_Air_Jeff
Banned
vaporware: the thread
I don't blame him, I don't know enough of the backstory of this game development to do so. I just feel that some of his comments are a bit strange, apologetic while throwing the blame to unnamed others.
Barry Burton
Member
Nothing about this has happened quickly, lol.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Sounds like they're having a hard time making it's a fun/rewarding game. The base idea is there, hence Ueda saying his creative work is done but they just can't get the right gameplay down or something.
King Mac of Furry Frog
Member
Such weird answers in this interview, it almost sounds like he's taking the piss. It's like he intentionally walked right into that one at the end too.
Diprosalic
Banned
Buying a ps3 near launch since i need one anyway when TLG comes out doesn't seem that good of an idea anymore :/
Haunted
Member
Let's just take a moment to point and laugh at people who bought their PS3s for The Last Guardian.
I love Ueda and the previous games he directed, but I can understand that not even Sony could afford bankrolling him without any results anymore. He got axed after heading up a development team for 7 years without a game to show for it.
I love Ueda and the previous games he directed, but I can understand that not even Sony could afford bankrolling him without any results anymore. He got axed after heading up a development team for 7 years without a game to show for it.
The destruction of Team ICO was. They reached such an amazing high with SOTC and then they've never been seen again.
TheRealTalker
Banned
the battle between Allan Becker and Fumito Ueda still surges on it seems
It sounds like they fired him and took him off the project, brought in their own guys to take what there was and finish it out as a game so Sony can release it.
Sounds like an ffxii scenario.
Wish I was paid doing shit all for 7 years. I bet Ueda browses funny cat videos on his desk and when Shu comes in to check on the TLG progress he immediately minimises screen to some art work and starts acting like he got shit together, while shu stupidly unaware that the work has been the same since 2008!
Yeah I'm an idiots who bought a PS3 for Team Ico and am PISSED -_-
That's the way I took it. Ueda has shared all his ideas, now he's leaving it up to Japan Studio to actually develop it.
funkystudent
Member
Gonna be fun when this game finally comes out.
I bet Ueda will blame SCEJ and then we will hear sony insiders blame Ueda.
Idealy the game probably should have come out 2/3 years ago. Sucked and been forgotten about already.
I bet Ueda will blame SCEJ and then we will hear sony insiders blame Ueda.
Idealy the game probably should have come out 2/3 years ago. Sucked and been forgotten about already.
astroturfing
Member
i still believe.
He sounds like he used to be the game director and is now the creative director, if anything. Sounds like he took his game ideas and rough layout and handed them off and comes back to offer feedback occasionally. But it does not sound like he's the game director anymore. Which sounds like it's for the best as this thing has been clearly been through development hell. I hope it actually comes out one day, but I'm skeptical that it's going to have the feeling of one of his games with him not being intimately involved with it.
flabberghastly
Member
I remember the first time I read "The Compliance Branch" in Harper's magazine in 2008. My cappuccino (venti, extra-dry) was being prepared by the barista at Barnes & Noble's in-store Starbucks while I waited on my partner for an English lit class project to arrive (why some college professors insist on partnered projects still confounds me), so I insinuated my way through the magazine racks, spied that particular issue of the magazine - the February 2008 one, to be exact - and picked it up to thumb through. On the cover, at the bottom, hidden by the magazine rack itself when the magazine sat there for those who had no intention to purchase it or even engage in a bit of superficial café skimming, was the author's name: David Foster Wallace. It was squashed between the word "Also:" and the name of the bombastic, quasi-Marxist philosopher ", Slavoj Žižek." To be fair, it was a testament to the author's craft and consequent literary fame that he made the cover at all with this piece totaling only 3 pages (including more than half of one page dedicated to an accompanying painting done not by the author himself) in the "Readings" section.
I'd read Infinite Jest years before this and had been anticipating his subsequent novel ever since. That month, February 2008, was 12 years to the month after the release of Infinite Jest, which itself was released more than 9 years after Wallace's debut novel, The Broom of the System. "The Compliance Branch" was the first excerpt of the new novel that I would read. It was the first taste I would have of something I'd waited years for. I cared enough to savor it that I waited just a bit longer - until I now-impatiently nabbed my cappuccino from the pick-up counter, checked the time on my cellphone to ensure my partner wasn't due for another few minutes, secured a table with two chairs near a window (to be easily spotted by my soon-arriving partner), stretched my legs out under the table from my chair so the right heel rested on the chair across from mine while the left crossed over at the ankles, flapped open the magazine, found the correct page, read the prepositional phrases "from a work in progress" in the byline, took a deep breath, and, finally, slid through the passage spending more time contemplating my own anxiety from reading this and how it could or could not possibly meet the standard I expected than the content of the work itself. The experience seemed important enough at the time that I purchased the magazine - something I very rarely, if ever, did or do. Seven months later, David Foster Wallace hung himself at his home, leaving the sprawling, disjointed manuscript of his final novel to his now-widowed wife to be published posthumously as The Pale King. After reading the news online, I reread "Good Old Neon," a short story from the final collection he published, Oblivion, in an attempt to assuage my own inconsequential, anonymous grief.
Our expectations are selfish; our demands, unjustified; our disappointment, regret, and frustrated jokes, petty, unwarranted, and shallowly cruel. I'll play the game when it's here, if it's ever here, for what it is.
I'd read Infinite Jest years before this and had been anticipating his subsequent novel ever since. That month, February 2008, was 12 years to the month after the release of Infinite Jest, which itself was released more than 9 years after Wallace's debut novel, The Broom of the System. "The Compliance Branch" was the first excerpt of the new novel that I would read. It was the first taste I would have of something I'd waited years for. I cared enough to savor it that I waited just a bit longer - until I now-impatiently nabbed my cappuccino from the pick-up counter, checked the time on my cellphone to ensure my partner wasn't due for another few minutes, secured a table with two chairs near a window (to be easily spotted by my soon-arriving partner), stretched my legs out under the table from my chair so the right heel rested on the chair across from mine while the left crossed over at the ankles, flapped open the magazine, found the correct page, read the prepositional phrases "from a work in progress" in the byline, took a deep breath, and, finally, slid through the passage spending more time contemplating my own anxiety from reading this and how it could or could not possibly meet the standard I expected than the content of the work itself. The experience seemed important enough at the time that I purchased the magazine - something I very rarely, if ever, did or do. Seven months later, David Foster Wallace hung himself at his home, leaving the sprawling, disjointed manuscript of his final novel to his now-widowed wife to be published posthumously as The Pale King. After reading the news online, I reread "Good Old Neon," a short story from the final collection he published, Oblivion, in an attempt to assuage my own inconsequential, anonymous grief.
Our expectations are selfish; our demands, unjustified; our disappointment, regret, and frustrated jokes, petty, unwarranted, and shallowly cruel. I'll play the game when it's here, if it's ever here, for what it is.
staticneuron
Member
Well....
I think this says enough.
I never understood how this worked until I spoke to one of the developers behind Rain. Apparently she also worked on TLG, and it kinda gave the impression that the effort was more collaborative than I initially thought.
Does he?
Thursday War
Banned
who are the idiots behind TLG? not to be rude, but I think they need to overhaul their studio with people who are actually able to finish things.
Worked so well for Duke Nukem.
John Kowalski
Banned
Because they're developing other stuff? Japan Studio is constantly doing new games.
Where did people get the idea that Team Ico is just a bunch of dudes sitting alone in a box doing nothing for seven years?
Graphics Horse
Member
We'll see, he's spent longer on this than the other two so I doubt it'll feel too far removed. But it makes sense that he was moved away from direct control of the team and is more of a consultant for the remaining development.
A Black Falcon
Member
(from the interview)
Also, Oculus Rift, huh...
Zombies, as a way to "express a character in a lyrical way"? How would that work...
Also, Oculus Rift, huh...
DangerMouse
Member
This.
My take is that the world/story/etc are kind of long done, but they're still trying to get Toriko to actually work on the PS4 (it probably never did on the PS3).
I've got HR screenshots from years ago that show various locations in the world and all of them are pretty damn polished. I find it very difficult to believe that anything else other than Toriko's AI is holding up the show.
No no nononononononononononononon NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I still want the multiplayer demo of SOTC to leak out. There are spots on the SOTC map where a colossi was obviously supposed to go, but I can see why he'd say that 24 couldn't have really fit in the map as-is.
I've got HR screenshots from years ago that show various locations in the world and all of them are pretty damn polished. I find it very difficult to believe that anything else other than Toriko's AI is holding up the show.
No no nononononononononononononon NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I still want the multiplayer demo of SOTC to leak out. There are spots on the SOTC map where a colossi was obviously supposed to go, but I can see why he'd say that 24 couldn't have really fit in the map as-is.
DangerMouse
Member
I don't even know if we can really tell anything. Some have been doing well (Tales team, etc.) but there still seems to be a large number of Japanese devs having problems making large scale games on these newer systems even way smaller and less ambitious titles than what TLG seemed to be aiming for. I think that's sadly one of the issues as well. I hope some of the recent news about Sony trying to turn around the studio helps them address the problems with developing bigger games again in the PS4 era.
There's a project, and you charge time to it as you work on it. There can be someone that's on the project 100% of the time. Then there are some that work on the project and other concurrently. Then there are some that come in to fulfill a certain role then go back to whatever else they were doing before. This is how labor works.
The most efficient use of everyone's time is to not have a team sitting on one project because there are bottlenecks that'll hold people up so it's better to pipeline it by having fluidity and allowing people to move between projects.
Thaumaturgic Tomato
Member
So in summary, Ueda wants to again redefine art in games, this time with a zombie themed match 3 iOS game.
Xenon
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BadAss2961
Member
Take your time Ueda. Special shit like Ico and SoTC don't grow on trees.
Glad to see someone who understands. No, I'm not being sarcastic.
Nicely put and I totally agree.
Thursday War
Banned
At least it was finished.
Well... honestly the TEAM ICO style isn't that hard to distill, and provided you're a talented studio... I eman it's not exactly hard to
REPLICATE
It's not about the graphic style, both TI games have a distinct style that is true, but the beauty is in the game play, in the interaction.
Replication of a style is not that hard, wouldn't be that difficult to make a wind Walker styled game, but graphics is only a small part of a great game