It's a considerably shorter season with the same budget, it's to be expected that production value is higher.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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It's a considerably shorter season with the same budget, it's to be expected that production value is higher.
andythinkpad
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I would like see Sam with old makeup, finishing the book A Song of Ice And Fire, and then put on his glasses, suspenders and that stupid hat and transform hinself into GRRM.
He is the storm.
CecilRousso
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Tyron's skills as strategist, for which he has so such respect from the other characters for, would be a bit more convincing if his plans actually panned out well a bit more often.
FutureLarking
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Whoever did the sound effects when Arya was eating that pie needs to go find a new job. In what planet is that anything like a pie eating sound?
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The last fight was pretty funny. The sped up cuts, fishbowl lensing, neatly choreographed fighting, neon bloom of the fight, dodging a flame ball, character abilities (starring whip girl), and overall contrivance of it. It was like a video game.
That Nathalie Emmanuel though goddamn.
That Nathalie Emmanuel though goddamn.
Devilinthiscity
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With John gone, Sansa is totally gonna fuck things up in the North isn't she? At least that is what i'm expecting. There is the possibility that Arya will end up killing Littlefinger if she ever ends up getting back. She has been the only character so far that has been able to get sweet revenge on people. Most likely end up running into the Hound and the fire guys though.
redfox088
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My hopes- I feel as the conflict for Tyrion will be Olenna, I feel like tyrion will find out she killed Joffrey and that will exonerate him in Jaimes eyes
I want Jorrah to meet Lyanna
And I want the parentage to be investigated but chance or inspection and Bran to confirm...I just don't know how lol
darkwing-buck
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Anyone know the track that plays when Arya decides to go to WInterfell instead of King's Landing?
That's.... how all film works?
TheExecutive
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So Tyrion and Varys have no idea that there is no gold left in casterly rock? Seems highly unlikely.
Seductivpancakes
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I thought it was an arrow too, but it was the whip i believe.
BossDarkseid
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I'd be so sad if Sansa fucks things up. I have such hope for her, I wouldn't mind if she is very different from Jon, but still keeps the peace and makes sure everyone is content with their lot. I think Bran turning up might change her a bit, or at least be "Here I was, ready to go Full Cersei and half my family is still alive"
Why does Littlefinger approach Jon solely to remind him he was the one who carted his dad's bones after he betrayed him, and that he used to want to bang his mother but now wants to bang his sister (who Jon knows was given to the Boltons by Littlefinger)? What does he gain from it?
Also slicing off half of a guy's skin unanesthetized is lethal and there ain't no magic ointment for that.
Also slicing off half of a guy's skin unanesthetized is lethal and there ain't no magic ointment for that.
Seductivpancakes
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I thought it was him trying to make Jon an ally.
" i want to bone Cat, but she was mean to you so its okay right?"
soundscream
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They have no gold/funds. That's the reason why Tywin was so set on those marriages to the Tyrells, they needed their money. Its all about the symbolism of taking their home. The same reason Rob wanted to take it. Why would you follow a ruler who cant defend their own home.
Conkerkid11
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Still going to forever be disappointed that despite Theon and Yara taking Euron's fleet, he still somehow managed to pull another fleet out of his ass that was more powerful than his stolen fleet.
Glad those dumb Sandsnake sisters are gone now though.
Edit: I didn't understand Arya's last line. What did she say? "Not her." Or something? Sucks she's still gonna miss Jon. Can't wait for her to meet up with Sansa though. Is Littlefinger on her list? I honestly can't remember.
Glad those dumb Sandsnake sisters are gone now though.
Edit: I didn't understand Arya's last line. What did she say? "Not her." Or something? Sucks she's still gonna miss Jon. Can't wait for her to meet up with Sansa though. Is Littlefinger on her list? I honestly can't remember.
MoonsaultSlayer
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I was thinking "hey, since I saved your life and I'm practically family, I was thinking of maybe getting your blessing in me boinking your sis".
redfox088
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What I don't understand that a raven from sam way in the citadel and way in dragon stone reaches winterfell before one from castle black. There's no way Edd doesn't know what Bran means to Jon, I actually thought that was the thing that would lead Jon out of reach of dany...oh well
soundscream
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Season 1 Ned tells Arya she will be the wife of a great lord, Arya says thats not me. She says the same thing about her wolf, shes not meant to be a pet but a wild thing (like Arya). Good thing she might be the only wolf alive at the end.
Seductivpancakes
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At least he tried to ask lol
soundscream
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Did you miss the people in the carraige going south saying 200 miles to kings landing and Arya heading the opposite direction?
Conkerkid11
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Oh wow, thanks. That's a great nod to something so long ago. I really need to rewatch previous seasons.
DarkLordMalik
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That sex scene made it a good episode after the lackluster opener. The final battle was fine although a little too chaotic and u realistic the way it unfolded. Nowhere epic.
I say they lock Baelish away and keep him fed so he can concoct his little schemes without actually hurting anyone.
Sansa: So what's it going to be today, Lord Baelish?
LIttlefinger: Your brother Bran is at Castle Black I hear. I want to marry him and make myself the lord of Winterfell.
Sansa: I'll look into that.
*closes kennel door*
Sansa: So what's it going to be today, Lord Baelish?
LIttlefinger: Your brother Bran is at Castle Black I hear. I want to marry him and make myself the lord of Winterfell.
Sansa: I'll look into that.
*closes kennel door*
Don't really like the storyline with the uncle guy. He had his fleet stolen and it feels like 2 episodes later he managed to rebuild it bigger and better then before. Then he manages to take them completely by suprise and jumps on their ship after activating god mode.
Baleish is creepy.
Interested in seeing what happens with John and Daenyrs.
Baleish is creepy.
Interested in seeing what happens with John and Daenyrs.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Yeah but...
Is discussion about the after show closer look segment forbidden? Because they talk about this.
The One Who Knocks
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There are two clear readings that can be interpreted from the line, which was "That's not you".
The first, and I would argue most likely, reading is that the Nymeria Arya met on the way to Winterfell is not the same Nymeria which she instructed to flee in the first season. When Nymeria fled, both of them were two incredibly different creatures to what they are now. Nymeria is now a killer who leads a wolf-pack hunting for food; returning with Arya as a partner to 'go home' to Winterfell is out of character and is something that the pup may have done but the current Nymeria would certainly not. 'It's not her' (i.e. in her nature anymore) to partner with Arya. Likewise, Arya, too, has incredibly changed. She's no longer the young girl learning to fight who chases a cat around the basement (?) of the Red Keep in King's Landing, she's a trained killer and returning to Winterfell is not only out of her present nature, but it's something she could not truly be comfortable with and would not 'fit in'. It's no accident that Nymeria and Arya barely recognise one another when they meet; they're both very different people than when they fell out of contact, and now both are highly skilled hunters (one could say it's far too on the nose how much they resemble one another, but the imagery with the wolves has never been very subtle). This interpretation would suggest that the meeting with Nymeria convinces Arya not to return home to a family in which she no longer fits, but to remain on her original path to King's Landing.
The second, and less likely, reading is largely similar to the first. Arya recognises that Nymeria is now a killer and it would not be in Nymeria's present nature to team with Arya, but that while Nymeria walks from Arya, Arya herself recognises that she isn't like Nymeria, that while both may be skilled hunters whereas Nymeria willingly walks from the opportunity to return home, Arya convinces herself that she is different, that she isn't like Nymeria (somebody who would abandon their roots) and double's down on the decision to return home.
While I think the former is far more likely than the latter, both have the same 'idea' in them that "That's not you" is a reference to how much they have both changed since they parted ways and they're now 'different (changed) people'.
EDIT: And there is the callback aspect which has been mentioned above.
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They didn't miss that, the quote you're responding to Is referencing how Arya's meeting with Nymeria convinced her that it's more in Arya's nature to go to King's Landing than it is to return to a home in which she no longer fits because of her experience in the series thus far.
The big thing i haven't seen anyone point out is if you look at a GoT map Dragonstone and king's landing are literally in the same inlet coming off of the sea and Cersei and Euron both knew that's where Danny was holding up, so it wouldn't take much to see the ships leave from a distance and follow them.
They stole all his best ships, but he used the lush forests to build 1,000 ships and found Yara with the help of his medieval radar.
He knew that the unguarded King's Landing would need no naval protection so he sailed directly to Dorne so he could intercept Yara's fleet.
soundscream
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I just watched it and have no Idea where you are getting anything that contradicts what I wrote.
Conkerkid11
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soundscream
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But shes not going to kings landing.
The One Who Knocks
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She wasn't going to King's Landing after she left Hot Pie and learned that Jon was the King in the North and the Bolton's defeated. The meeting with Nymeria occurs after this, and one strong interpretation of this scene is that the meeting with Nymeria convinces Arya that it would not be in her nature to continue returning to Winterfell, and that "that's not you" is her coming to the realisation that the 'correct' path for her is to continue with her original plan to head to King's Landing and decides not to go to Winterfell. The poster you initially quoted is assuming this rather strong interpretation. The other interpretation of the scene is that the meeting with Nymeria reinforces her desire to return to Winterfell, and thus she continues on this path, but this seems to be a bigger stretch.
MoonsaultSlayer
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Sorry, should have posted something like this (working while browsing):
The point was, she realized what her true goal is. Guess they should have showed her going back.
soundscream
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Thats a crazy interpretation thats not happening. They even spell out what it meant in tbe behind the scenes closer look after the show. She isnt heading to kings landing.
soundscream
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But after watching what you wanted me to watch it doesnt in anyway say that. Infact it says the opposite.
Dany still has those ships she won from the slave masters (which at the end of last season had Targ sails). So she still has a bit of a navy.
I enjoyed the episode overall. Danny was great in her exchange with Varys. That was one of the few times, if not the only time, I've seen Varys look so genuinely concerned. Arya reuniting with Nymeria was also great, and as others have theorized, I predict she's going to continue heading to KL. I would love to see her reunite with Jon and Sansa, though.
Sansa continues to annoy me and my hope is that Jon handing her the North while he's gone is enough to make her kill LF. Of course, when Jon learns of R+L=J it may also be him killing LF. Still hoping it's Sansa so that she can redeem herself even a little.
The Euron fight was fun. A bit heavy with the plot armor considering Yaara and sand-moms ships were the only one to not fall. Euron also took a hell of a beating and seemed fine.
Theon, aka Reek, continues to suck. He could kill Euron, Cersei, and whoever else and he'd still be a D-tier character. This forced PTSD gives me little hope for him.
Sansa continues to annoy me and my hope is that Jon handing her the North while he's gone is enough to make her kill LF. Of course, when Jon learns of R+L=J it may also be him killing LF. Still hoping it's Sansa so that she can redeem herself even a little.
The Euron fight was fun. A bit heavy with the plot armor considering Yaara and sand-moms ships were the only one to not fall. Euron also took a hell of a beating and seemed fine.
Theon, aka Reek, continues to suck. He could kill Euron, Cersei, and whoever else and he'd still be a D-tier character. This forced PTSD gives me little hope for him.
Seductivpancakes
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I guess problem is all her best sailors are dead.
MoonsaultSlayer
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I don't remember what was said, just going by what was implied by the line and callback.
TheFuzz
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The last scene we see in the episode is with Nymeria, where she smiles and says "that's not you."
She's definitely turning around and heading for kings landing. The writers even alluded to it.
Well to be fair they didn't appear to be all that good.
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