The Artisan
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yeah, it's easy to forget the connections; in my first watch of the show it took my a while to realize where exactly jorah was from and where his loyalties lied.
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Game of Thrones *NO BOOK DISCUSSION* |OT| Season 7 - [Read the OP]
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Netherscourge
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I don't think there will be a Cleganebowl until the last season.
That would tie up a long-running storyline and it seems premature to do that now.
That would tie up a long-running storyline and it seems premature to do that now.
Psychoward
Banned
i don't think it's gonna happen any more since he's going up north now
also i didn't like the scene where he sees stuff in the fire, mainly because as an audience we didn't see jack shit
What do you mean? We all saw what he saw, maybe you just don't believe in our lord?
Robdraggoo
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It's "just" obsidian, but in the Game of Thrones world obsidian has magical properties that can turn people into white walkers, prevent them from turning into wights, kill white walkers, and potentially cure illness according to the book Sam was reading in the latest episode.
Both dragon glass and Valyrian steel have magical properties.
BossDarkseid
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I like that the White Walkers are a nuclear option, a genie the CotF can't put back in the bottle. The execution was a bit messy but I think any attempt to give the Nights King personality or humanise them would weaken them. They work well as a force of nature that could outlast the Seven Kingdoms if they wished, anything they do is pretty much because they want to.
Does anyone expect something with The Mountain to happen this season or will be just be following Cersei around? It feels like he's a Chekhov's Gun of sorts and I don't want them to drag it till the finale.
Does anyone expect something with The Mountain to happen this season or will be just be following Cersei around? It feels like he's a Chekhov's Gun of sorts and I don't want them to drag it till the finale.
No
Yes
darkstar0155
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My impression is The Mt. is just going to follow Cersei around and do whatever she says. I don't think he has any brain left.
I def think giving the Night King any real personality other than "im going to fuck your shit up" would be a mistake. I think I missed a few episodes somewhere when the CotF were even brought in as that entire storyline has been somewhat week imo.
The Artisan
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what we were saying on the previous page is that there may be obsidian elsewhere on the planet, but the obsidian in westeros and western essos is made from dragonfire.
BannedEpisode
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I actually do think the mountain is conscious, but simply is incapable of doing anything except following orders because of what was done to him.
I forget the scene, but there was a moment after he was reintroduced and Someone asks if he is still in there to Qybern and the Mountain flinches like he's trying to revolt.
In a way that's a lot more fucked up. Just a thought though.
Robdraggoo
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There on opposite ends of the continent this season, so sadly probably not.
Although I see Sandor may have moved past his vengeance. So w may never see it all.
I could see bran controlling a dragon. But even more fun, bran controlling the mountain.
I was thinking about this too which could be pretty fun.
darkstar0155
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You know, I remember someone asking if he was still in there, but really nothing past that.
The Artisan
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I hope Bran and Meera get romantic
Pagusas
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Omg lol, I just spit my drink out. fuck Bran.
darkstar0155
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HAHAHAHAHA
I think it's pretty obvious the answer is Bronn. When, you know...he feels like it.
If he were still in his prime and not all "scale-y", perhaps Jorah.
Really though, I love the flair that Kit Harrington has brought to Jon's fights. He really sells it well and does a great job making you forget he's like...5'6, if that.
Nameless
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Are we sure Bran's one-eyed Raven still works?
The Artisan
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I dunno how paraplegia does it for folks, but...I would assume that yes it still works, but he wouldn't be able to physically "feel" it.
The Artisan
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it was funnier when he called out thoros for being bald
Pagusas
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ComputerBlue
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That whole exchange was fantastic.
The Artisan
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Well he could have used Hodor for that...
huh?
GenocidalMarshmallow
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Does anyone else think that if Euron brings a gift to Cersei and she agrees to marry him and they get married, that shortly after they'll both try and betray each other and kill the other the second they get a chance and they outlive their usefulness?
I mean, Theon and Yara told Dany at the end of last season that if she married Euron and got his big massive cock he'd kill her the moment he gets what he wants, so perhaps as soon as he marries her and becomes king he will try and betray and kill her?
He would have to get past Jaime and the Mountain though, and although he didn't seem afraid of the Mountain, just curiously interested and amused, I don't see him getting past Jaime since his character arc isn't done yet, plus I think it would be poetic justice if the Kingslayer became a Queenslayer to stop her from unleashing wildfire the same way he did with the Mad King.
If Cersei tries to have Euron killed first, I doubt the Iron Fleet would follow her, though she could just seize the ships the way Dany stole the slavers' ships last season.
For some reason I feel Euron wasn't afraid of the Mountain because he's actually a beast in combat and would love to see them fight so he can get to Cersei if we don't get cleaganebowl after all.
How many men do the Lannisters and Greyjoys have at this point? Not enough to Match Dany's army of like over 100,000, I imagine? It looks like Cersei's screwed, Jaime even said they look like the losing side, and since this is Game of Thrones all expectations will probably be subverted and Cersei probably has a wildfire like trick up her sleeve that will even the odds against Dany since it wouldn't be that entertaining to see her steamrolled into Oblivion by D and her Dragons, so hope there's a big awesome battle with that soon!
I mean, Theon and Yara told Dany at the end of last season that if she married Euron and got his big massive cock he'd kill her the moment he gets what he wants, so perhaps as soon as he marries her and becomes king he will try and betray and kill her?
He would have to get past Jaime and the Mountain though, and although he didn't seem afraid of the Mountain, just curiously interested and amused, I don't see him getting past Jaime since his character arc isn't done yet, plus I think it would be poetic justice if the Kingslayer became a Queenslayer to stop her from unleashing wildfire the same way he did with the Mad King.
If Cersei tries to have Euron killed first, I doubt the Iron Fleet would follow her, though she could just seize the ships the way Dany stole the slavers' ships last season.
For some reason I feel Euron wasn't afraid of the Mountain because he's actually a beast in combat and would love to see them fight so he can get to Cersei if we don't get cleaganebowl after all.
How many men do the Lannisters and Greyjoys have at this point? Not enough to Match Dany's army of like over 100,000, I imagine? It looks like Cersei's screwed, Jaime even said they look like the losing side, and since this is Game of Thrones all expectations will probably be subverted and Cersei probably has a wildfire like trick up her sleeve that will even the odds against Dany since it wouldn't be that entertaining to see her steamrolled into Oblivion by D and her Dragons, so hope there's a big awesome battle with that soon!
Robdraggoo
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You sick sick man lolWell he could have used Hodor for that...
The Artisan
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I don't think Euron would wanna kill Cersei. If he is to rule, I think he wants a queen by his side. Cersei knows she needs allies and for that reason alone I don't think either of them will do any betrayals to the other.
I also hope Euron has more scenes throughout this season; his addition into the story was so abrupt with so little mention or development beforehand it's hard to put value and stake in him as an important character/villain, saying that as a viewer.
I also hope Euron has more scenes throughout this season; his addition into the story was so abrupt with so little mention or development beforehand it's hard to put value and stake in him as an important character/villain, saying that as a viewer.
Pagusas
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The Artisan
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quick question about warging: do those who have been warged into, animal or human, experience any side effects afterwards? hodor never said much but did it ever feel like to him that something got in his head, did he start feeling paranoia etc. didn't seem like that on the show.
The Hound is such a dick, but you can't help but love him lol.
Robdraggoo
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Euron pretty much said as much last season. He was going to marry danarys, kill her and take the kingdom's, iron price and all that. Can't imagine the plan changes with cersai
Robdraggoo
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Yeah, he's great. His last of us story arc with arya was one of the best of the series
The Mountain smashed a baby's head against the wall after pulling it out of its mother's arms, then raped the mother and killed her too. He's as evil a character as this series has.
The Mountain is a monster. Cersei is a cold and calculating predator. Both evil, just in a different manner. She's far more dangerous though.
The Artisan
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the man's got no integrity but if he said it, well i guess that's that.
Pagusas
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Seemed more like he didnt remember what happened during it. Like when Bran used Hordor to kill the mutineer Knights Watch people, when Hodor came to he looked at his hands, covered in blood and looked completely confused.
I don't know how Euron Greyhoy hasn't engaged Dani's fleet already. He must have gone pass Dragonstone to get to Kings Landing when they were already on their way across the narrow sea. By the time he can get out of Blackwater Bay from Kings Landing, Dani must have arrived on Dragonstone already. Dani's fleet could effectively already form a naval blockade on Kings Landing, right?
The time skips and geography on this show confuses me. In the same regard, I don't know how Jon can get to Dragonstone or Dani to Winterfell without going through a lot of Lannister or Greyjoy forces.
The time skips and geography on this show confuses me. In the same regard, I don't know how Jon can get to Dragonstone or Dani to Winterfell without going through a lot of Lannister or Greyjoy forces.
Pagusas
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The channel is big enough the two fleets could have been hundreds (or even thousands?) of miles away from each other when passing and never noticed.
The Artisan
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yeah I was thinking that too. i suppose it doesn't matter since bran was only able to warg into hodor for being a "simpleton" he probably can't mind control the average man.
Robdraggoo
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I don't remember if he outright said it ,but it was heavily implied.
The Artisan
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what is the point of being a ruler if nobody likes you though
Robdraggoo
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I dont think its quite that big, I'll have to look at a map, but euron would have reached kings landing from the south. And dragonstone is northeast of kings landing. The channel does bridge it, but I don't think he would have sailed past it. But Danny was commung from the south as well. Hmmmm
The Artisan
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Psychoward
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The Artisan
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to be fair though, the only character doing any "teleporting" is varys.
Robdraggoo
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Is it really that hard to suspend disbelief that varys traveled dorne and came back before Danny set sail. It would have taken months to stock that fleet, paint dragons on the sails ect..
And varys left before they started.
And varys left before they started.
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