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[GameBlog Rumor] - Developers disclosing problems with Xbox One drivers [Updated]
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RedRooster
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Oh, no doubt Sony will improve as well. But if its artificially dragged backwards, it can only result in good things as the low man on the totem gets his shit together.
A 4 man rowing team has 3 super studs and a 100 pound weakling. You get that wimp pushing some weights and the whole thing gets better. Same situation pretty much.
Drivers are never "fixed" they are improved, constantly. If the xb1 drivers are improved in the next 3 months do you think PS4 drivers will remain the same? They are always improving.
and it's a combination of drivers and raw power...
Oh, no doubt Sony will improve as well. But if its artificially dragged backwards, it can only result in good things as the low man on the totem gets his shit together.
A 4 man rowing team has 3 super studs and a 100 pound weakling. You get that wimp pushing some weights and the whole thing gets better. Same situation pretty much.
But we're not talking about 4 man rowing, we're closer to the high jump, Sony and Microsoft can both jump over at 1m 31cm but Sony can't jump any higher because no one will move the bar up to 1m 84cm because Microsoft is only just hitting 1m 31cm
SwiftDeath
Member
I found the slight clarification that the sources are a big french and a big American publisher to be of note
However several gaffers have stated gamingblog.fr is now not a very good journalism site and some consider it the french tabloid of video games
As per anything YMMV
BUT I do think this adds weight to the Xbox One driver maturity issue being real WHICH WAS MEANT TO BE THE FOCAL POINT OF THIS THREAD
(didn't mean the last part at you cassidy, just people in general)
It'd be nearly impossible to actually achieve artificial parity. If they lock the image quality and resolution the frame rate will differ unless they aim so low that both platforms are overkill for game then they will look noticeably worse than their competitors. at best it means MS pays for extra dev time to make the XB1 version look closer and the PS4 version won't be as optimized.
MS may be more touchy about that subject but at some point it's going to get more costly to try this and if launch looks like the 3:1 disaster it rumoured to be from pre-order numbers, their leverage will quickly evaporate.
Laughing_Man__
Neo Member
That's what I meant sorry. Who's to say this is not some rehash of what Edge said? It contains nearly the exact same info. Who's also to say that the drivers are all ready out there?
Assuming this is credible, which I'm not, I have two questions:
- Why would any large publisher worry about offending MS? If anything, I would think that developers/publishers have more leverage than hardware companies, as the last thing MS would ever want to do is give Sony an exclusive on a big franchise from a big publisher. What are they going to do, boycott Ubusoft or EA? Please.
- Wouldn't a publisher's bigger concern be the games they are competing against on each respective platform? If they gimp Battlefield on PS4, for instance, wouldn't they worry more about losing sales to Killzone or CoD?
GameAddict411
Member
the CPU has nothing to do with the resolution, it's entirely GPU limited. some people here seem to blame CPU when they get the chance because it was designed for "notebooks" when in reality it's more than capable.
gamechanger87
Member
Exactly. Sony monopoly for the win.
You realize that console gaming would not be where it is today without MS right?
A competitor says something vague and FUDish about its competition and you eat it up like dogs? If Penelo tweeted something like " we've heard some people prefer Xbox one's environment" it would be just as stupid to believe.
I don't doubt MS is having driver issues. I do doubt devs are "castrating" ps4 versions to not piss off MS.
No fact pure speculation and some non discript shit from yoshida.....say them names son say them names. More fuel for the console war fire. Who will be the first to lose their life to this silly war of plastic and numbers?
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Yosh said that "not all are like that", implying that there are some who are in fact doing just that.
GrizzleBoy
Banned
He may not, but you do have to wonder why there's maybe three or four people in this thread at least acknowledging that driver issues can be sorted and that this rumour is well old.
Liquidsnake
Banned
As I read this thread, I made another payment to bring me closer to having the One paid. off.
Don't worry about it man. A lot of people here hate Microsoft and need to vent their anger.
In the case of EA they are getting paid....
Don't compare Shu to Mr. We invented DirectX Penello.
SwiftDeath
Member
Forced Parity is a rumor based on author of articles speculation
BUT I consider this to be further confirmation of the Xbox One Drivers
I seriously feel like I need to reply to everyone who takes the forced parity thing as fact because I never meant to convey that in my OP
It was another interesting bit of the article not it's main purpose
Pretty easy to see what they will do. Get xbone version to run at 1600x900 at 30 fps. then lock the ps4 version at 1600x900 at 30 fps.
Just find it hard to believe they would do this.
To the posters that say this isnt "fact." there is enough smoke to be concern. We need to make this clear we wont be okay with this. I dont see how anyone could support this.
Just find it hard to believe they would do this.
To the posters that say this isnt "fact." there is enough smoke to be concern. We need to make this clear we wont be okay with this. I dont see how anyone could support this.
this should be a new thread.
Ok. I'm so fucking confused, lol.
MajorasHalo
Banned
They would gimp the graphics but for most, so what? Not like they really know about this sort of stuff. No one would trade BF4 for Killzone.
Who knows on your first part
Yep.
ThisWreckage
Banned
If I were in charge of a development team I would tell Microsoft to fuck off. Don't ask people to downgrade their product because of your design philosophy and incompetence.
Krusenstern
Banned
There probably was, since it's a little older.
I have been doing this for a while now, PS console for exclusives only.
SwiftDeath
Member
Thanks for the title change (I assume that was you?)
I apologize for causing such an embarrassing sh*tstorm
Seriously the driver issue was to be the main discussion
I don't know how else to convey that
You could say that for all the large players in the history of gaming. Atari, Nintendo, Sega, MS, Sony, SNK, Capcom, SQEN, EA, Ubisoft etc.. but a lot of MS business decisions since the 360 launch is probably game for the industry. blowing money on timed exclusives, blowing money courting casuals, and marginalizing small studios.
I take it that you aren't familiar with yosp or his tweets, are you?
So the new rumor (which is the same as the old rumor) lends credence to the original rumor? How are we supposed to know if this isn't just a regurgitation of the original rumor? I dig your intentions but seems like a potential blowup over nothing. I'll certainly be keeping an eye on 3rd party developments and if we make enough noise we'll maybe get some answers so I'm not trying to put down your thread.
Always-honest
Banned
Sounds weird to me. Can't be true.
If true, then it's one of the biggest fuckups in recent history.
If true, then it's one of the biggest fuckups in recent history.
Stoffinator
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Chobel
Member
I won't call it FUD but I see your point. yosp can't be trusted 100%.
Fuck, Argument from authority, I shouldn't have fell for it.
While it maybe the case early on, cant see it lasting.
While 3rd parties will be looking at the console manufacturers war, they will mainly be influenced by other 3rd parties. All it will take is one 3rd party to push the PS4 and the others will start to follow as they are to scared in losing out in the 3rd party war.
While 3rd parties will be looking at the console manufacturers war, they will mainly be influenced by other 3rd parties. All it will take is one 3rd party to push the PS4 and the others will start to follow as they are to scared in losing out in the 3rd party war.
That's what I'm wondering as well. I just can't buy into the idea that publishers and developers would somehow be afraid of offending MS. The most I can think of is that they might want to ensure MS' willingness into forming partnerships down the line, and playing along with something like this is their way of not burning bridges, but I struggle to really buy into that given how this generation has gone with the PS360 multiplats, or PS2/GC/Xbox games before that. I can't really see MS getting so bent out of shape over resolution differences, unless they really fear the potential for differences in multiplats could be even greater than that.
Didn't want to sound childish but I can see how my last remark might have took it too far, it wasn't my intention so I apologize.
googleplex
Member
Two things:
1. Xbox team that delivered the Xbox and 360 is not the same team that's been in charge the last few years and conceived the cluster fuck that is the Xbone
2. No one ever said anything about a Sony Monopoly. But Microsoft actions and decisions have continued to try and drive the industry into a anti-consumer direction. They are a terrible influence on the industry.
eddfromtheriver
Banned
Hooray for you.
RedRooster
Member
Good analogy, I get your significance of the numbers. Although both those heights are really really low compared to the Nigerian team jumping 4m70cm.
In the grand scheme, the diference between the two low heights really isn't that much. At least for me, sitting up the grandstands, to probably notice.Now you can empathize with PC gamers...
I dislike MS as much as anybody, but let's be honest here.
MS revolutionized online play on consoles as well as online storefronts, and led Sony throughout this generation. MS also built a really nice console this generation (early quality issues notwithstanding) and had arguably the best controller of this generation. I think a lot of the improvements from PS3 to PS4 can be attributed directly to the 360.
MS have added value to the industry, but if you're saying they stopped adding value around 2008 or so, I'm fully on board.
Gaz Pwnage
Member
If this does happen, any game affected by these bolocktics will simple be downgraded to a rental thus you don't get my money. Fun times.
SwiftDeath
Member
I honestly just wanted people to discuss the maturity of the XB1 SDK
Obviously thought there'd be some discussion of the forced parity but never thought it'd be like this
Personally I don't consider the Xbox One driver issue to be rumor based on what confirmation we have
Especially considering CBOAT's comment
I don't know anymore man I just don't know
I am a Sony fan more than anything and I think Gaf may be getting too much for me
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
We already had this thread a couple weeks ago.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
I don't get the "don't wanna piss off Microsoft" part. Because by gimping the PS4 version wouldn't 3rd party devs royally piss off Sony, you know the company which will eat a few billion $ to get those superior specs in their machines. So why would those devs be afraid to piss off MS and not Sony.