Fucking Ben Kuchera. That guy is the goddamned worst. He seems to just flail around blindly groping for hits. He's pretty lucky to be attached to a popular site that can generate them for him.
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Games Journalism! Wainwright/Florence/Tomb Raider/Eurogamer/Libel Threats/Doritos
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Fucking Ben Kuchera. That guy is the goddamned worst. He seems to just flail around blindly groping for hits. He's pretty lucky to be attached to a popular site that can generate them for him.
I... doubt I'll ever be able to get an erection again after reading this :/
Seriously now, if that was a joke, it wasn't funny. If it was serious, it was one of the worst cases of hyperbole I've seen. Whatever it was, terrible writing is a proper qualifier.
Wow. This is, actually, pretty hilarious. Well done, sir, well done.
Ya know PAR isn't bad. And Ben, when he's on point, does some pretty good writing.
However, his whole DRM is good thing, saying all sorts of shit about PS4 before details came out, this hyperbole (or joke?) about a controller... like, what the hell is this guy doing? I'm not going to call him some sort of brand fan, as I know he's wrote some scathing stuff on MS and Sony in the past, but his last few months have been a mess. Just a god damned mess.
This is great, and sad, but mostly great.
How so?
Lactose_Intolerant
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That happened like a decade ago
Paul Alexander
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Someone I follow on Twitter mentioned it's reminiscent of this:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/11793
Ravensmash
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How so? I think the vast majority did a fantastic job and were successful in bringing good amounts of content to their audience.
Paul Alexander
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"What's the difference between a PS4 controller and a female breast?"
"Ben Kuchera has only touched one of them!"
I kid, I kid.
"Ben Kuchera has only touched one of them!"
I kid, I kid.
CoffeeGames
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Nope. When you have developers and people on development teams actively insulting potential customers, going so far as to say they hate gays, hate blacks, and want to tell women what to do with their bodies, this industry is/will remain the laughing stock it is.
Developers and "journalists". People want to know why it isn't taken seriously, when these examples are the rule not the exception?
What?
Delusibeta
Banned
Wouldn't be too surprised if that's a reference to either that Kotaku article about Trendy or that Kotaku article about men (including Bungie employees) being fuckwads towards women at E3.
Ah. Well both of those cases are good examples of the press (Kotaku) bringing horrible things to light.
OH MY GOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOD.gif
This is amazing.
Anyway, have you guys discussed Chris Kohlar's "Sony won E3 (but that doesn't really matter)" article being posted the same day MS reversed course on their DRM policy? Talk about bad timing, eh?
Paul Alexander
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CoffeeGames
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Jason, if someone said this to/about you, "But I get where you are coming from its great to decide what a woman does with her body, hate gays, hate blacks etc.",
would you buy their product? Is that a great way to represent any company you may be a part of? Especially when the person who accused you of that is ignorant of what he/she is talking about? When YOU might actually have gay friends, black friends, etc.?
THIS is the industry. It is immaturity at its best. These aren't children/youths talking like this repeatedly, but "adults".
Did someone say such stuff publicly at some point recently?
CoffeeGames
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Yes, yesterday on Twitter.
Oh, so you got into a strangely escalated politics fight with someone on Twitter. https://twitter.com/TheKevinDent/status/347518477654978561
faceless007
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I don't know what's going on here, but it's really funny if you read Kevin Dent's tweets in Tommy Wiseau's voice.
Don't really see what it has to do with games journalism though.
CoffeeGames
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Yeah, talk about strange. As someone who has never voted for a Republican or Democrat in the general election, and has gay friends, black friends, the guy just lost customers for the game/companies he is representing. I wasn't sure who he was actually talking about at first, but it's okay, he lost potential customers.
If he can't talk politics publicly, without turning into your typical Fox News/CNN host with name-calling when he doesn't like your points, he probably shouldn't be talking politics with games. Then again, I guess I shouldn't expect more from the average industry person these days?
This was his first tweet:
"If you still want a disc in your console, you basically voted for Sarah Palin to be president."
Paul Alexander
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First rule of video game Twitter is DO NOT ENGAGE KEVIN DENT
McBradders
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Arthur loves his anonymous sources when they're his!
https://twitter.com/aegies/status/347748309550645249
https://twitter.com/aegies/status/347748309550645249
Dakota47
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Is there a thread that does the opposite of what this one does? Because I wanted to say how impressed I was with Patrick Klepek actually breaking the Xbox 180 story before it was officially announced. When it comes to proper journalism (i.e. digging up stuff that isn't publicly known or communicated through a press release) Klepek delivers.
Klepek wasn't the first.
Dakota47
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He wasn't? Who / which site was then?
Cosmonaut X
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Was it not What Hi-Fi, or something equally odd?
CoffeeGames
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Yes, and he credited them on his Twitter page later as being the "first" I believe:
http://www.whathifi.com/news/microsoft-to-back-track-on-xbox-one-games-drm-and-always-online
That's the link he posted up I think, but it's a bit odd as it reads like it was done after the confirmation, and I can't find the original piece they had posted. So, maybe that was the original post, and they simply updated it after it was officially confirmed.
doublenagger
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game journalism sucks
I think its important to give you guys an overview of how it is in another country,as in to compare the obstacles and difficulties regarding gaig journalism.
I am a gaming journalist from Brasil, and here, the conversation has not yet evolved to a point where we talk about the industry itself. All people care about are reading and specially seeing or listening, about their favorite games from past, present and future.
Now, there are good things about this and bad.
The discussion has not evolved, but that means the conversation is still pure. What maters most are the games, and people play something, and go searching for podcast, videos and reviews about that, and that is how most of the traffic gets around. Anything industry related that brings traffic is very specific, like the time when the guy that calls himself the representative for video games in our government said he would work hard to get steam to be taxed in Brasil, because it wasn't fair to the physical shops, an industry he said was just starting in Brasil (the biggest franchise for video game stores here is over 25 years old)
The bad thing is the centralization of the video game portals in just a handful of websites. Here there are 2 or 3 sites that hog all the traffic, because they have the structure to have the news and the discussions first. Everyone else have a differentiation of going into deep discussions, but the vast majority are enthusiasts that don't make money off of it, so they lose it on timing. We don't seem to have a space for other types of content to really flourish.
So in the US and Europe, I think it very healthy that topics like this one get to have this many pages, and all journals get to be accountable to the readers this way. I hope one day here we get to have these problems as well.
I am a gaming journalist from Brasil, and here, the conversation has not yet evolved to a point where we talk about the industry itself. All people care about are reading and specially seeing or listening, about their favorite games from past, present and future.
Now, there are good things about this and bad.
The discussion has not evolved, but that means the conversation is still pure. What maters most are the games, and people play something, and go searching for podcast, videos and reviews about that, and that is how most of the traffic gets around. Anything industry related that brings traffic is very specific, like the time when the guy that calls himself the representative for video games in our government said he would work hard to get steam to be taxed in Brasil, because it wasn't fair to the physical shops, an industry he said was just starting in Brasil (the biggest franchise for video game stores here is over 25 years old)
The bad thing is the centralization of the video game portals in just a handful of websites. Here there are 2 or 3 sites that hog all the traffic, because they have the structure to have the news and the discussions first. Everyone else have a differentiation of going into deep discussions, but the vast majority are enthusiasts that don't make money off of it, so they lose it on timing. We don't seem to have a space for other types of content to really flourish.
So in the US and Europe, I think it very healthy that topics like this one get to have this many pages, and all journals get to be accountable to the readers this way. I hope one day here we get to have these problems as well.
AuthenticM
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Keighley doesn't have any intentions of addressing the mater, does he ?
He doesn't need to address the matter, he is and continues to be the matter.
AuthenticM
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Well he did say that he would address it in due time. That was, what, nearly a year ago ? He still hasn't said anything on it.
RedNumberFive
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There will be a new Mountain Dew and Doritos promotion starting soon for the launch of the Xbone. I'd expect to hear from him then.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2013/08/15/learn-the-secrets-of-the-last-of-us-multiplayer/
saw this on twitter and thought it fit in here, ign editor colin moriaty writing for the official playstation blog seems inappopriate
saw this on twitter and thought it fit in here, ign editor colin moriaty writing for the official playstation blog seems inappopriate
I'm a little conflicted. He clearly states his requirements for writing on the blog (member of Podcast Beyond and Editor of predominantly PlayStation games) , but the fact that he's writing on a PR blog troubles me. Having said that, IGN's coverage has been questionable since they started appearing on Xbox Live's ads.
Someone more experienced will have something better to say that will likely change my opinion on the subject.
Lactose_Intolerant
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The IGN Nintendo editor just left to be a senior director at the pr firm that handles nintendo. So not surprising
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Only as surprising as the fact that the previous IGN Nintendo editor was married to someone who did PR for Nintendo!
I puked a little.
i just think being paid by sony to write for them is a conflict of interest. you're meant to cover playstation in the interests of your readers, not sony, yet you're working for sony too. rubs me the wrong way.
i also think it's pretty telling if your writing can instantly become corporate pr
Look at all the money hats. *sigh*
Was participating in a tour of a big developer. At the end of the tour, we sat down in the conference-room, watching a clipshow of their history. They finished it with showing off their prizes and for some reason, the presenter didnt like the part. I wondered why, so after the show, I asked him. He told me, with a straight face, that half of these prizes have been bought and they feel dirty for "winning" them.
That PR firms handle a lot of other accounts aside from Nintendo, to be fair. We don't know whether Rich will be working on the Nintendo account or not.
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