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Games that are exclusive/enhanced on the New 3DS
- Thread starter ArtHands
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Additional SNES VC has been announced or released.
Contra III: The Alien Wars
Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble
Final Fight
Final Fight 2
Final Fight 3
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War (Japan only)
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Japan only)
Kirby's Dream Course
Mega Man 7
Mega Man X
Mega Man X2
Mega Man X3
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Super Castlevania IV
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Super Punch-Out!!
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
The Legend of the Mystical Ninja
Contra III: The Alien Wars
Donkey Kong Country 3: Dixie Kong's Double Trouble
Final Fight
Final Fight 2
Final Fight 3
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War (Japan only)
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem (Japan only)
Kirby's Dream Course
Mega Man 7
Mega Man X
Mega Man X2
Mega Man X3
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
Street Fighter Alpha 2
Super Castlevania IV
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Super Punch-Out!!
Super Street Fighter II: The New Challengers
The Legend of the Mystical Ninja
The Horror the horror
Banned
I want an N3DS bad, but common sense tells me to hold for a price drop and NX.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Does anyone know which of the Nindies@BitSummit games are N3DS only? It'd be a stretch to wonder about N3DS enhanced titles, but I'm guessing some of the stuff built on Unity, like Back in 1995 64, has to be N3DS only?
Here's the montage trailer if anyone missed it. I'm hyped for the Puyo creator's next game! https://youtu.be/AG35UprNokk
Here's the montage trailer if anyone missed it. I'm hyped for the Puyo creator's next game! https://youtu.be/AG35UprNokk
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Nintendo needs to take advantage of Fire Emblem being more successful than ever and localize some of these bad boys finally. Or hell, use the inevitable bajillions they'll make off the mobile game to fund it.
Pokemaniac
Member
From my understanding, while there's nothing necessarily stopping anyone from releasing a Unity-based game that supports Old 3DS, it's highly unlikely that that will ever happen due the system's general level of capabilities.
InfiniteCombo
Banned
Ehhh, I was thinking about the same thing, but not knowing anything about NX, and not knowing when there was going to be a price drop, if ever (the most I've seen it go down to is $175), I just went ahead and sprung for it today. Got the standard black XL.
NO regrets. I can play Super Mario 3D Land, A Link Between Worlds, and a number of other games the way they were meant to be played, thanks to the nice and stable 3D. And I can play those games now, instead of waiting.
Also, when the N3DS first came out, there were lots of complaints about the potential transfer issues. Nope... after just a few button clicks on both 3DS's and about 1/2 hour later, my transfer was completely done. Super easy.
Meanwhile in Europe we are seeing pretty much nothing.
TheMoon
Member
NA and PAL have about the same amount of VC games on N3DS VC (15 vs 13).
edit: and MM7 / MMX come out this week in EU
X/Generations runs at 30 fps with slowdowns in some areas, at least in the demo. It seems the same engine of MH3U but "powered" in terms of textures and light effects.
So, yeah, it's a step back compared to MH4U engine. It's true when we said that MH4 didn't run at 60 fps (indeed, the average was 45 fps) but it still feels faster compared to this new game. Plus, MH4U has awesome rich textures thanks to the improved hardware of New 3DS.
X/Gen was designed for old 3DS hardware, it seems. Sadly.
The game that started out as an NDS game?
Those rich textures look like a busy mess, especially on the environment. I prefer the cleaner look of MH3U. It's as if they downscaled HD textures vs. SD textures.
Toadthemushroom
Member
New Digital Foundry video up assessing MH Generations.
In short: It's N3DS enhanced, but the enhancements are slim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orbz3Astxx4
No enhancements to visual quality (texture quality on monsters, shadow quality, texture filtering), or framerate. But the game is locked at 30fps on both models and the game maintains a stable 30 even on the original 3DS, so it's hard to tell. I'd imagine if there are framerate drops in very busy areas when playing online then N3DS might have an advantage.
Load times are noticeably better on N3DS, so it must be using all three CPU cores and that L2 cache.
In short: It's N3DS enhanced, but the enhancements are slim: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Orbz3Astxx4
No enhancements to visual quality (texture quality on monsters, shadow quality, texture filtering), or framerate. But the game is locked at 30fps on both models and the game maintains a stable 30 even on the original 3DS, so it's hard to tell. I'd imagine if there are framerate drops in very busy areas when playing online then N3DS might have an advantage.
Load times are noticeably better on N3DS, so it must be using all three CPU cores and that L2 cache.
Toadthemushroom
Member
A-Train 3D is receiving a forwards compatible patch, called A-Train NEO, that supports N3DS for even better performance and ZL/ZR shortcuts among other things: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1272255
GamingOblivion
Banned
Do we expect Pokemon Sun/Moon to be one of these?
Toadthemushroom
Member
Yeah, I'd say so. It depends though, I think Game Freak might be programming the GPU at a lower level with Sun and Moon too:
Toadthemushroom
Member
I'd be up for that. Nintendo probably knows what portion of the active 3DS install base is on "New" hardware and what sort of games they are playing, so maybe that'll determine whether we get another big N3DS game after Xenoblade 3D.
Guess we'll find out in the Direct today, since Nintendo has usually announced new 3DS games unexpectedly during Directs (Chibi Robo Zip Lash, A Link Between Worlds etc).
TheMoon
Member
none are exclusive. we won't know about enhancements until closer to release.
Megatron
Member
TheMoon
Member
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1273516
Terraria in the post needs to be updated with the larger worlds bit.
Terraria in the post needs to be updated with the larger worlds bit.
Toadthemushroom
Member
A-Train 3D NEO is also getting faster load times and performance in addition to the C-Stick functionality mentioned in the OP.
Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule
Member
Thank you so much for this OP!!
TheMoon
Member
I think there's also at least one shitty RCMADIAX game but ... lol
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
that's....that's it?
I'm in the same boat. On one hand, I keep thinking that Black Friday is right around the corner. On the other than, the lowest I've ever seen one go is right around that same price, maybe a few doorbusters for $150. The biggest thing for me is that I'm basically forced to spend an extra $10 on a stupid charging cable.
dampflokfreund
Banned
That's a huge step back from MH4.
It seems like N3DS is already dead. Sadly, it looks like the N3DS was another cash cow from Nintendo, just like DSi. The very least thing Nintendo could do was to deliver a update to older Nintendo 3DS games to take advantage of the N3DS power. I'm very disappointed in my N3DS purchase.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Umm you can't make a device more powerful by just issuing an update.
I don't think you know how technology works.
dampflokfreund
Banned
What are you talking about? I said older Nintendo 3DS games can be updated to take advantage of the New 3DS devices.
It's already possible with a custom CFW on New 3DS devices and its not a big deal.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Oh, I misread your post.
But it still doesn't mean the N3DS is dead. I am sure many newer games are being enhanced on the N3DS, but they were too minor too be mentioned everywhere and thus not added here.
TheMoon
Member
lol... pls
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I mean when they announced xenoblade, youd expect a few more retail exclusives.
why? to shut out 80% of the install base?
Xenoblade is a nice goody and a nice tech demo... nothing more.
why is runbow "exclusive"?
some games dont look that good, but they need extra juice, i dont get it... are the devs just lazy fucks?
@mh generations talk:
iam utterly dissappointed by mh generations, since its not as good looking as mh4. unbelievable, how they fucked it up this hard.
or was it intended to not look that good?
some games dont look that good, but they need extra juice, i dont get it... are the devs just lazy fucks?
@mh generations talk:
iam utterly dissappointed by mh generations, since its not as good looking as mh4. unbelievable, how they fucked it up this hard.
or was it intended to not look that good?
Ruud_Luiten
Member
It's the engine used for creating the game..
The engine cannot cope with the very old hardware that is in the original 3ds.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
Member
The demo already runs on the N3DS better.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Because of how it was advertised? I mean Nintendo puts out a new nintendo 3ds cover for one game? Just thought (like im sure others did as well) that there would be more than just xenoblade. Not that difficult to understand.
TheMoon
Member
when you don't know how game dev works, please don't talk like that.
not sure what the cover plate has to do with that. sure they did sort of imply there would be more exclusives but also never said that they'd be the ones making them. and as we see there now are several exclusives.
MHGen is a disappointment not only from a technical point of view but also for its gameplay: "supermoves", styles and others gimmicks that destroy the perfectly balanced system of MH4U.
That said, I expected more enhanced games or patches for older ones but nothing. Nintendo being Nintendo, as usual. Tsk.
That said, I expected more enhanced games or patches for older ones but nothing. Nintendo being Nintendo, as usual. Tsk.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I should have said cases. Not covers. My bad.