What were you all expecting
I was in the $450 camp, thought they'd avoid $500+ at all cost. Saw plenty of $399s and even some $350s being thrown around though.
What were you all expecting
#team $449/$249 split between Xbox consoles.
Why would you lower the price on a console that sells well enough and has no competition? PS4 Pro was making a profit from day 1, it can probably be produced for less than $300 by now.
Okay so by that logic, add a copy of Windows, keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, etc.have to add $60 to that $500 btw for Xbl something Pc doesn't have. XBL being free on PC is awesome!
Overall you actually spend more on consoles than on the PC
People are acting as if Scorpio is everything Microsoft got. Xbox One S is for the mainstream audience. Scorpio was never meant to be anything but a premium console for those out there who knows what HDR means and have a 4K TV in their living room. And so One S will always outsell Scorpio just as PS4 Slim outsells PS4 Pro.
Hm. I never thought of it from this angle. That it's Microsoft trying to shift a bit of expectation pre-press conference so the price doesn't hit so hard.
But man, that doesn't change the fact that the E3 teaser led specifically and clearly intentionally to a "Less Than $400" clue. I'm torn.
What were you all expecting
It happens because of both.Price drops don't happen because build costs decrease, they happen in response to waning demand
Not going to fail. They are winning over the graphics enthusiast market. You are the market that they are targeting with the $200 One S discount.
$499 seems perfectly reasonable considering the Pro being at $399 with less power.
And once again part of neogaf doesn't disappoint with comments like DOA etc. MS has marketed the Scorpio as a premium product from the start...
$500 would be DOA IMO, way too high. You would be better just getting a gaming PC. Especially given the fact that the majority of X1 console exclusives are on PC.
Am I the only person on this forum who thinks that $499 is a reasonable price for what we're presumably getting?
I guarantee that it will sell just fine to early adopters at $499, and then when that market is saturated they'll drop the price to appeal to a broader base.
I suppose I'm just accustomed to the idea of paying a premium price for a premium product, whether it's a nice car, an OLED TV, a MacBook, a GTX 1080, or a console. Yes, I would be nice to get a lot for a little, but I'm not going to be angry at a company because they won't take a loss on the product I want.
It's the main reason I think it's possibly controlled.
Frankly Geoff probably knows almost every game we will see at both MS and Sony's conferences. It just is very weird he specifically leaked this one thing.
$500 would be DOA IMO, way too high. You would be better just getting a gaming PC. Especially given the fact that the majority of X1 console exclusives are on PC.
But look at the actual reasons for a more expensive BoM:
They are getting their advantage by upclocking, so the APU isnt that much more expensive than the pro.
- more powerful PSU
- more expensive cooling solution
- uhd blu-ray
- +4 GB GDDR5
All that to me sounds like $50. When you factor in MS aggressiveness I could see them marching Sony initially
I consider $399 a premium product price. Just like the Pro was priced last yearSome of the replies to the $499.99 price point are those that did not want to listen when Phil was banging the drum about it being a premium product. I think there are those that didn't give a shit regardless of the price point and then there are those that always felt and believed what Phil was saying when he talked about it being a premium console.
I don't think $499.99 is bad for what you get. Of course $399.99 would be better for more mainstream appeal, but I don't think that is the point of this console. Phil has always said that they know the Xbox One S will be the leading sales console for them and that the Scorpio was made for those that wanted a premium experience.
What if Phil's intent is to make money, not one up Sony?
Lol yeah it's pretty comical. E3 is really the most wonderful time of the year.Tinfoil hat GAF is amazing/ly sad. Some of these responses are hilarious.
i agree. thiis thing is going to well to xbox fans regardless. let's be honest the xbox one is incredibly underpowered this is basically a new gen for them. they'll lower it once sales stall if its 499Xbox fans are willing to buy Elite controllers. They are thirsty for new hardware, way more than PS4 owners ever were. They will sell out this holiday.
Now, after the holidays, it'll sink like a stone, but this holiday was locked whether it was $299 or $499.
The average consumer doesn't look at consoles as first place or second place machines. That's what fanboys think like. The average consumer will simply ask for the most powerful console. Which will be the Scorpio.LMFAO the $400 pro didn't sell out and you honestly think a $500 second-place machine will?
I would love to hear your logic on that one...
A price where it will sell
There is honestly no reason to let this leak.
Why is someone so "respected" willing to risk it all with a leak like this for internet fame? It's career suicide as he looses all trust and integrity.
Why would Microsoft market like this ? It's amateurish and a cheap shot.
I'm stumped it makes zero sense from both parties.
Guys, the price is $499 and that is what has been rehearsed.
Boom.Guys, the price is $499 and that is what has been rehearsed.
The average consumer doesn't look at consoles as first place or second place machines. That's what fanboys think like. The average consumer will simply ask for the most powerful console. Which will be the Scorpio.
A shame the mainstream audience isn't buying it.
lol haven't they been saying it's premium for a long time? To be expected. Why did people get excited?
Oh boy.Guys, the price is $499 and that is what has been rehearsed.
The average consumer doesn't look at consoles as first place or second place machines. That's what fanboys think like. The average consumer will simply ask for the most powerful console. Which will be the Scorpio.
Guys, the price is $499 and that is what has been rehearsed.