demigod
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Goodluck on steam machines pricing the way they overcharge margins on SSD license.
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Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut PC cross-play and system requirements revealed. PlayStation overlay, cross-play, and Trophy support!
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
I don't think a PS PC Storefront is a good idea. Didn't work very well for Epic, nor EA, nor Ubisoft...
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Yeah it’s gonna be expensive. The bottom tier model will likely be $1000+ but perform the same as a $600 PS6
So you’ll need to buy the $1500 model to get a noticeable improvement
yurinka
Member
Not the case at all.
It means Sony had last quarter a personal historical record of 123M MAU for any console brand in gaming history, but even if they are slowly growing their console userbase can't grow much because the console userbase didn't grow much in decades. In fact if you only look at home consoles it may even be in decline.HeyManaByte , what does this mean???
And the thing is that 123M MAU is a tiny portion of the total 3B playerbase, so Sony wants to expand to more platforms to make more money, something they need because they work on over two dozen games with a big ass budget of over $200, almost $400M in some cases, for each one. Which is too risky and not profitable for games with the sales of what Death Stranding, Dreams, Days Gone, Bloodborne, Demons Souls, Returnal, Ratchet, Sackboy etc. had in PS.
So they are opening to new markets to reach more players and make more money to pay those games and make them more profitable.
Sony's revenue in PC has been highly growing every year. In FY22 were the top 20 publisher, and in FY23 having almost 2 months of Helldivers 2 they must have been way higher in the list. By making their PC ports more appealing and more integrated with their console, they'll help them grow in PC both reaching new players for PS and PC, and also making more appealing for players to double dip (let's say to play on a PS5 while in the tv and in a Steamdeck like PC portable when in the go).
Eventually, specially considering future big ass GaaS like Concord and Marathon in the near future, Sony will become one of the top publishers in PC if not the top one. After that, they'd release their PC store featuring cross-save and cross-buy with console and would make their PC games exclusive to there. That would end with Sony leading the PC market as they already lead the console market.
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Punished Miku
Gold Member
I was saving up for a PC in the $2000 range anyway. Wouldn't surprise me. That's pretty much what I'm expecting as well.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Yeah I would maybe even consider this if Sony doesn’t offer a steam machine but does have a PC launcher that has cross play with all their games day and date with console
It would need to be cost competitive with other PC builds and possibly upgradeable, though. If I’m going to shell out that kind of money I don’t want to run into an Xbox One X situation where it’s obsolete in 3 years.
Topher
Gold Member
RagnarokIV
Member
FINALLY!
I should be getting over 60 at 4K DLSS with this.
Also can't wait for the PSblog comments on this one.
I should be getting over 60 at 4K DLSS with this.
Also can't wait for the PSblog comments on this one.
drotahorror
Member
Are you saying MS is coming out with a Steam Machine? I can't find any info about any new steam machines.
DanielG165
Member
Those hardware requirements are certainly interesting. I know they’re pushing the visuals further for GoT on PC, but it is still ultimately a PS4 game that was ported to PS5. A 4080 to run it at 4K/60?
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Its just speculation based on where they are right now
It will be an Xbox built by third parties that runs Windows with Steam and can natively boot into an Xbox OS if desired that has BC with all previous Xbox hardware
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
Are they pushing the visuals further? Nixxes didn't mention anything about enhanced visuals as far as I'm aware.
PC and PS share the same trophy set according to PlayStation.blog.
Skifi28
Member
On one hand I should be happy there's less work for me. On the other, I lost a platinum on a game I like : /
Shadowstar39
Member
Do some people here not understand the legit reason steam is so popular? Its because of decades of good will and user focused instead of publisher focused (like epic).. It has actual user reviews, that it encourages you to do. It has per game forums, and discussions, community hubs, and workshop for mods, guides sections, etc.... All that is missing in every other launcher besides steam (gog has the forums, guides and reviews too, but it's galaxy software has issues).
PC gamers trust valve and steam. They don't trust big pubs, like ea or ubisoft, or MS, and for good reason, all those companies delist games, they take down servers and stores, and don't give options. Steam eared trust, gamers know that once they bought the game its there.
Also most pc gamers don't want seperate launchers, they like steam and want everything to come through that. Publishers may not like it but if they want good sales, then thats the way to go.
Add on steam deck proton and linux support , that you won't get anywhere else, and it makes more incentive for games to be on steam.
That being said, an in game overlay is great! A seperate launcher like origins or ubisoft connect, epic, etc...hell no!
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Chukhopops
Member
So those players would be counted as PlayStation MAUs?
More seriously, this is a step in the right direction. Still no cross-buy though.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
I understand it. I just dont see platform holders giving Valve gatekeeping for the whole industry.
RagnarokIV
Member
All of this is correct. Everyone hated Steam when it was introduced (and forced for Valve games), and I went with discs for years more but Steam earned people's trust and custom.
DanielG165
Member
I was mistaken, I don’t know why I thought I remembered reading that somewhere, but trailer had no mention of any enhancements to the visuals. That just makes the requirement list even more head scratching lol. I know that we should always take these lists with a grain of salt, but still, 4080 to max out a ported PS4 game is… Something.
Topher
Gold Member
lol the other thread is just above you
Ghost of Tsushima Director’s Cut PC cross-play and system requirements revealed. PlayStation overlay, cross-play, and Trophy support!
Yeah it’s cool we have options and MS can “soft exit” consoles without abandoning their legacy consumers They may be in a tough spot if their Steam machine cost isn’t competitive with just DIY or buying any other PC though, the Steam Machine concept failed previously but again since MS will...www.neogaf.com
That's this thread my man
yurinka
Member
I think MS will do it before, but I assume Sony's plans with PC are:
- Build a strong PC 1st party library and userbase
- Release a PC launcher and PC PSN store (which also features 3rd party games) that also features cross-save and cross-buy with console, and also integrates their already existing PC remote play and cloud gaminng apps
- Release a Steamdeck-like PS Portal successor for the PS6 generation that in addition to remote play and cloud gaming also runs natively the games from the PC PSN store
- Release a mobile gaming PSN integration and mobile PSN store for future Sony and 3rd party mobile games
- Via Android emulation, make the mobile PSN games playable natively on that PS Portal successor too
RagnarokIV
Member
Published specs have always been over inflated, I wouldn't take them too serious.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Sounds amazing, which is why I know it's not going to happen
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
They are actually quite accurate when it comes to PlayStation games.
Codes 208
Member
Based on what? Epic seems to be doing just fine
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Well I don't have any data, said that based mostly on the reception Epic exclusives usually get from PC gamers. Which isn't good.
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
EGS is losing money hand over fist for years.
Reizo Ryuu
Member
An overlay might as well be a separate launcher, you still have to log into it, and now you have multiple overlays running at the same time 
Good thing it's optional.
Good thing it's optional.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
I agree with all of this and I think it will coincide with PS6 launch in 2028
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
They aren’t lol.
Kataploom
Gold Member
Yes, PS games always have higher PC requirements than games that look similar or even better, that's the norm already, and it's not because "they're just too high tech" or something like that, they just don't care.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
Maybe. Depends which way you look at it, competitors are already doing it, Sony already do it for PS4/PS5, so maybe like they do for PS5 upgrades, you pay an extra £10 to get the other version too. I guess as it stands specific work is being done on these games for PC so it should be dedicated revenue, I don't mind paying for that, but double dipping at full price is a bit much, I end up buying Steam keys a few months later instead, not sure how much Sony would get off that. As a consumer I just like the idea of being able to buy a game once and be able to play it on every device it is compatible with, but maybe it is unrealistic. Maybe they don't fancy the thought of trying to compete with Steam on PC so this is the easiest path.
rodrigolfp
Haptic Gamepads 4 Life
Can I install Windows 11 and Manjaro in them?"All consoles are just PC's these days"
Mofos were right.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
You will get both at the same time.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I end up hurting myself. My boner gets soo hard it I manage to get break my disk when Im parked in my seat under the desk.
You don't know the struggle.
xVodevil
Member
So looking forward for this! As for the other part, just keep it on steam. Not that we need any more of them launchers in our lives, but definitely not another dumb attempt at an exclusive store. MS, EA, Ubi, Bethesda all failed and backtracked by now, be smart Sony, just learn from it.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Which PS? PS4 or PS5?
While some do, not all trophies automatically pop on PS5 GoT when loading a platinum PS4 save.
Punished Miku
Gold Member
BryanK loses.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
PS5. I should have been more specific.
MisterXDTV
Member
Less than that: it's 1800p/60 Checkerboarded
So it's like 1600x1800 native= 2.880.000 pixels
yurinka
Member
I'd bet PS6 will release November 2027.
Almost exactly 7 years since the PS5 release, same distance as between PS4>PS5 and PS3>PS4.
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