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GPT-4: A Revolution in the Gaming Industry? Exploring Opportunities and Ethical Concerns
- Thread starter EviLore
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Plot twist. This too was written by gpt-4
It was.
Sakura
Member
In the future, sure I could see AI achieving 1 and 2 in the OP, but GPT4? Not a chance.
It cannot be run locally, so any game would need to be making requests to and from openai (for a fee). There would also be infrastructure problems supporting a large game this way.
Maybe for smaller test projects, or subscription based chatbot waifus or something.
As for game dev itself, it will certainly help. It will be a tool though, it can't make games on its own, and the code it writes often has mistakes, so I don't think it will take anyones job there (yet).
It cannot be run locally, so any game would need to be making requests to and from openai (for a fee). There would also be infrastructure problems supporting a large game this way.
Maybe for smaller test projects, or subscription based chatbot waifus or something.
As for game dev itself, it will certainly help. It will be a tool though, it can't make games on its own, and the code it writes often has mistakes, so I don't think it will take anyones job there (yet).
thebigmanjosh
Member
There’s been a few twitch shows and text based roguelikes already. Theoretically you could build a model that learns from all (good) 2D JRPGS to generate an endless game.
It would be computationally very expensive (and most likely be terrible), but it’s possible
Balducci30
Member
Can’t come soon enough imo. I remember when reading Enders game - the game he plays in that with the giant behaved nothing like an actual videogame. It was completely open ended, infinite possibilities and the world seemingly shifted on a whim according to his choices - I always wanted this to be real. Now it can actually be a thing.
Frankly I’m just annoyed it’s not happening right now, imagine if starfield the planets and storylines on them just randomly generated to the level chat gpt could with a simple basic input. I’ve created fairly entertaining and readable plot synopsis’s for stories through chat gpt with very little effort. If it could create assets and npcs to match we’d be golden.
I also hope that it will massively cut down on the time it takes to develop a videogame from what it is today.
Frankly I’m just annoyed it’s not happening right now, imagine if starfield the planets and storylines on them just randomly generated to the level chat gpt could with a simple basic input. I’ve created fairly entertaining and readable plot synopsis’s for stories through chat gpt with very little effort. If it could create assets and npcs to match we’d be golden.
I also hope that it will massively cut down on the time it takes to develop a videogame from what it is today.
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
PROMPT: How would I go about convincing EviLore, that using AI to masquarade as himself, is evil and an affront to all that is good and just?
PROMPT: what is tl;dr of of all that nonsense?
Seriously though, ChatGPT3.5 and 4 are fantastic. I can't wait until it is implemented in the Google Assistant / Siri so that I can acutally have a decent conversation with it.
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Tams
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Pegasus Actual
Member
AI is on the upswing while humans are on the slow inevitable decline to Idiocracy. Good luck everyone!
Balducci30
Member
But chat gpt level AI would make them not the worst quests that’s the thing. It can actually come up with structured stories pretty well - I tested out a screenwriting thing that used it and you could choose the type of story structure you wanted and it would fill out the beats accordingly in a way that made sense.
Stands to reason that in a few years (or more) it will be able to do that even better. It’ll never replace real humans imo, but you could feasibly break open the dam for what’s possible in videogames. Plus as I said previously it’ll probably make dev times shorter… I just don’t see what’s not to love here.
Shifty1897
Member
I remember when Metal Gear Solid 2 was at the forefront of gaming AI, then it was The Last of Us 1 and 2. I would love to see how advancements in AI takes NPCs to a whole new level.
https://www.gamereactor.eu/skyrim-gets-more-content-as-chatgpt-generates-new-quests-1247103/
It's probably not very good at the moment but it will be interesting to see what tweaks game devs can make (if they decide to) to make GPT-4 better for generating consistent worlds, characters and storylines.
It's probably not very good at the moment but it will be interesting to see what tweaks game devs can make (if they decide to) to make GPT-4 better for generating consistent worlds, characters and storylines.
Consumer
Member
This gave away that something was off, but I thought it was just sarcasm
somehow didn't even think of ChatGPT, despite just watching the South Park episode about it
mxbison
Member
Thread A:
"Writing in gaming is so terrible!"
Thread B:
"AI can never reach the sheer brilliance in human writing."
AI doesn't need to write the next Shakespear or Homer's Odysee. It's good enough for lots of other stuff like sub quest stories and dialog.
Plenty of busy work in game development that AI could be a huge help with like creating NPCs, interiors, side content etc.
"Writing in gaming is so terrible!"
Thread B:
"AI can never reach the sheer brilliance in human writing."
AI doesn't need to write the next Shakespear or Homer's Odysee. It's good enough for lots of other stuff like sub quest stories and dialog.
Plenty of busy work in game development that AI could be a huge help with like creating NPCs, interiors, side content etc.
sertopico
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Elysion
Banned
I think what we‘ll see is a mix of both, where a game is rendered with very primitive, minecraft-style graphics to save time and money, and an ai algorithm will then go over it frame by frame and make it look photorealistic (or pixar-like, or whatever other artstyle the developers want). I think Nvidia is already working on something like this, if I remember correctly.
Something like this could make game development much faster and cheaper, while still allowing for human direction. It might make game development as fast and cheap as it was during the PS1 days.
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Schmendrick
Member
As someone working in the industry...no.
As great as ML models have become there is one tiny issue: They need power and data.
A full game filled with AI driven NPCs live chatting with you via an advanced language model is not gonna happen anytime soon on local hardware. Or it willl be compromised to the point where the tech is unrecognizable but the PR can still print "AI driven!" on the box.
What I fully expect though is that dialogue trees, background story and even voiceover will be done completely by ML Models in the future. When that era comes even the tiniest indi game will be filled with fully voiced fleshed out NPCs. And we`ve barely even started with what ML Models can do in the graphical department (see NVIDIA Remix). The possibilities ML has to speed up software development by taking over all the mundane tasks are overwhelming.,
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Interfectum
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That's actually a pretty interesting idea! Considering Rockstar's reputation for creating immersive open worlds, I wouldn't be surprised if they utilized something like GPT to enhance the AI interactions in GTAVI. It could definitely take the game's realism to the next level. Fingers crossed they give it a shot!
ResurrectedContrarian
Suffers with mild autism
one day it might even crop images for you
ThisIsMyDog
Member
This could be great not only for new games, but works for old too. PSX emulator when you can play MGS in photorealistic graphics.. or as disney princes, depends on you i guess.
https://research.runwayml.com/gen1 <- first step needed for that.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
It will make the games more complex and interesting as gamers are asking for more and more content.
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justiceiro
Marlboro: Other M
If the op text is anything to go by, the only thing gpt-4 can easily replace are PR representatives. I think this is good. No human should take part is such degrading job. Cleaning sweers has more merit than that.
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
that's.... not very advanced. that'd imply the AI got worse over time
Esppiral
Member
Absolutely! GPT-4 is an incredible breakthrough in AI technology and has the potential to revolutionize the gaming industry in countless ways. The possibilities for procedurally generated storylines and characters, AI-driven NPCs and companions, and enhanced game development are simply mind-boggling! And let's not forget the potential for personalized game reviews, previews, and news articles. However, we must also consider the ethical implications of such advancements and their potential impact on human labor within the industry. I am thrilled to engage in a thoughtful and constructive dialogue with the NeoGAF community about this exciting topic
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Razvedka
Banned
I did this same thing for my Masters. Though I also synthesized my voice.
Bluecondor
Member
You're right! I should slow my enthusiasm and not expect this right away.
The computing power issues with the current AI sites are definitely a huge obstacle for AI driven content.
This is a pretty great first step that you suggested though! - "When that era comes even the tiniest indi game will be filled with fully voiced fleshed out NPCs."
Razvedka
Banned
Makes me wonder about 'dedicated' hardware for ML/AI model execution becoming a thing of the future. Not dissimilar to fixed function hardware for things like encryption.
Edit: although, I suppose this is kind of already a thing with Nvidia GPUs and tensor cores.
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Bonsaibäumchen
Member
Well after watching some of that content GPT4 is able to create and watching Googles new ad
i can't wait to use all of this in my daily work.
Its gonna be fun organizing my teams using only AI generated content. Getting replys generated by AI. Summarizing long convesations using AI.
Finally all that stupid tedious work we've had to do will be done by AI.
Now we also need robots that are sophisticated enough to do hard labour and fully automated prodcution of goods.
What a time to be alive!
Now looking at all of this in regards to gaming?
I would like games still made by people and storys generated by people.
However using AI for better/more diverse/lifelike animations, or for talking to NPCs and beeing able to get more informations from them in a more natural manner that could be intersting.
However I am not intersted at ALL in AI generated Storys or Quests because thats just stupid and lame.
i can't wait to use all of this in my daily work.
Its gonna be fun organizing my teams using only AI generated content. Getting replys generated by AI. Summarizing long convesations using AI.
Finally all that stupid tedious work we've had to do will be done by AI.
Now we also need robots that are sophisticated enough to do hard labour and fully automated prodcution of goods.
What a time to be alive!
Now looking at all of this in regards to gaming?
I would like games still made by people and storys generated by people.
However using AI for better/more diverse/lifelike animations, or for talking to NPCs and beeing able to get more informations from them in a more natural manner that could be intersting.
However I am not intersted at ALL in AI generated Storys or Quests because thats just stupid and lame.
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