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GTC 2019: Nvidia unveils Quake 2 RTX, made together with Q2VKPT dev
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Still annoys me that my old friends and myself have zero thanks for all this old media (texture work and model assets). It’s just used, without our consent, in all these videos. What’s even worse is that these textures will undoubtedly be modified to work with a PBR pipeline, as the originals were not, and will likely be released with it.
So essentially you have nvidia releasing my old ass work, among others like Kman and cap_hotkill etc, all with no credits or thank you.
What a complete bummer...
So essentially you have nvidia releasing my old ass work, among others like Kman and cap_hotkill etc, all with no credits or thank you.
What a complete bummer...
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Leonidas
Member
If the Sapphire Navi leak is true($399/$499 for similar price/performance as Nvidia) then I doubt Nvidia feels any pressure.
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IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
$399 would be massively cheaper and would help it be included in more pre-assembled PC builds. Also for PC’s people may assemble on their own, there are going to be people this price range is good for: it feels weird when PC builds seems to be just about performance and price does not matter as if everyone had the budget for the latest overpriced core i9 and RTX2080...
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
To be fair, Alex Hyder the director of game development programs, contacted me last night. He wants to thank the people who made the original retexture and remodel assets.
I have to be honest, most people would just not care at all and not even bother with a thank you, but he seems to really care about our small little community of people who worked on them all and be willing to go above and beyond. Really decent guy.
So all good from my end, they have my money day one
I have to be honest, most people would just not care at all and not even bother with a thank you, but he seems to really care about our small little community of people who worked on them all and be willing to go above and beyond. Really decent guy.
So all good from my end, they have my money day one
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Did you post about your backstory and the history of your work as it relates to this project? Do you have a link? It sounds interesting.To be fair, Alex Hyder the director of game development programs, contacted me last night. He wants to thank the people who made the original retexture and remodel assets.
I have to be honest, most people would just not care at all and not even bother with a thank you, but he seems to really care about our small little community of people who worked on them all and be willing to go above and beyond. Really decent guy.
So all good from my end, they have my money day one
Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Sadly, it was an email exchange so I have nothing I can post. But he knew of all our my old work with Q2E, which wow, is old hat these days. Essentially, back when I co-made Q2E with Nicolás, we had a few people help with various assets, textures, models and the like. Of course I also helped with most of it. The media was all presented in targa and md3 form so they could be easily dropped in other source ports and not just Q2E. He knew about overdose, as that’s how he contacted me, and essentially didn’t want people to not be thanked for their work. I’ve given him all the info I have (and also if anybody else is reading this who worked on this stuff, contact me and I’ll forward your details on). Essentially I just want the Quake 2 community who worked on things to be thanked for their efforts, that’s all.
However, with the new release, I have to be honest... my skills as a designer are obviously a tiny bit different to when this stuff was made to today, and a PBR pipeline wasn’t even heard of back then. I’m starting to feel the urge to make some stuff for the RTX release, get it up to spec. Models, textures... its possible. I’ll wait for the release and then see.
But yeah, it’s been a nice chat. He doesn’t seem at all like you would expect somebody with that much power to be, and I’m just happy the old school people are being thanked in any ways possible
Tesseract
Banned
i know the feeling, it's happened to me with two official cs maps
i'm not so pissed because it's valve who did it, they own the rights, but i'm constantly bothered by remakes of work in this industry that do not seek out author permissions
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
bee
Member
it's out now, early testing on my 2080ti at stock, running 1440p default settings (all on except global illumination at medium) get 50-70fps, you definitely don't need a high end cpu though
looks amazing
edit: mild overclock takes it to 55-75fps, averaging around 65 most of the time
looks amazing
edit: mild overclock takes it to 55-75fps, averaging around 65 most of the time
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JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Be warned. This will not run very well on your system.
I have a 2080 Ti and I cant even break 60 fps at 1440p.
So far pretty cool though. I like what I see.
I have a 2080 Ti and I cant even break 60 fps at 1440p.
So far pretty cool though. I like what I see.
just downloaded it..to support the team i paid the 5 bucks for the full game last week. on my OC'd 2080 ti i get 100fps pretty much locked but at 1080p. when you actually read about how much the rtx cards are rendering for ray tracing its pretty dope. best 5 bucks ive spent in a while
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
I doubt it is poorly optimized, RTX is just very very intense.
Your comparison to Metro Exodus isn't a valid one. Here is why:
Quake 2 RTX utilizes multiple sources of ray tracing and I believe it's fully 100% ray traced.
Metro Exodus, Battlefield or Shadow of the Tomb Raider are not remotely close to 100% ray traced. Metro utilized RTX for mainly for lighting, Battlefield utilized it mainly for reflections I believe and Shadow utilized the RTX for shadows.
Tarin02543
Member
As expected runs like a turd on my 1060.
Can't wait to play it on a budget rtx card five years from now.
Can't wait to play it on a budget rtx card five years from now.
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Available and already on Gamersyde! Quake II RTX is being shown on your favorite website tonight in several videos of the first mission of the game. Obviously, you will need an nVidia 2000-series graphics card to take advantage of this technology. Th
Available and already on Gamersyde! Quake II RTX is being shown on your favorite website tonight in several videos of the first mission of the game. Obviously, you will need an nVidia 2000-series graphics card to take advantage of this technology. The videos were captured in 1440p on an i9 9900K...
www.gamersyde.com
mango drank
Member
There's a multi-GPU toggle in the settings, but does it do anything? Maybe it's for RTX cards only. Or it's a legacy thing? Did people have multiple 3dfx cards hooked up to their PCs 22 years ago?
Dr.D00p
Gold Member
Yeah....I'm going to call bullshit on that.
No way are you getting 100% and nearly 80-90% higher frame rates than others using a 2080 & 2080Ti.
Ulysses 31
Member
RTX version ain't got no music and cut-scenes missing too.
Ulysses 31
Member
Looks terrible without denoiser: like an ugly grain filter with lots of white pixels covering the screen.
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keraj37
Member
You got it, it is legacy thing for 3dfx cards. Today it means nothing unless you play on legacy rig of course.
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Ulysses 31
Member
Wrong, with it on "when available" it uses both my 2080TIs and fps nearly doubles.
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pawel86ck
Banned
You can see noise because there are not enough rays still, but at least you can see how much sharper textures are.Looks terrible without denoiser: like an ugly grain filter with lots of white pixels covering the screen.
Here are some pictures from DSOG article
These are all high resolution textures but with denoiser they all look blurry.
Lighting thanks to RT looks srunning, but with blurry textures like that I would rather turn RT off. There are also motion artifacts (ghosts) and people also say there are input lag problems.
Ulysses 31
Member
Must be something funky going on my end then because here's how it looks without denoiser(view as actual sizer):
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pawel86ck
Banned
There should pause key somewhere to switch between offline RT rendering and real time. Offline will render still frame but with much more rays (that's why there's less noise on DSOG pictures).
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
i don't you think you understand how RT works
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Don't know where you read that, but I myself was getting 25-35 fps on my 2080 Ti, so I'd say his claim is believable.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Dr.D00p
Gold Member
I didn't read it, I did it.....my 2080 got 15-17fps @ 4K
...A 2080Ti is faster but its not that much faster.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
In other words you made a claim and you had actually no idea what you were talking about. If you did you would read the benchmarks and see that in most games a 2080 Ti is actually offers around a 25-40% performance advantage vs a 2080. That advantage is even better at 4K.
Here is you a review:
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti & RTX 2080 Review
When NVIDIA first showed of their RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 2080 at Gamescom, many who watched the livestream and attended in person were left with more questions than answers. This actually brings us to today since we’re finally able to talk about the one thing everyone wanted to know about...
www.hardwarecanucks.com
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ultrazilla
Gold Member
Here's the Steam link. Free: Quake II RTX enhanced!
llien
Member
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bee
Member
if anyone is getting decent frame rates but it still feels bad responsive wise, enable mouse filter! i know that's practically the first thing i disable in every other game but in this it's night and day better for me
I would just ignore 4k for now, it's unattainable with good fps even with 27tflops and rt hardware acceleration as shown above, 1440p runs and looks great though on a single card
can't stop running around chucking flares everywhere haha
I would just ignore 4k for now, it's unattainable with good fps even with 27tflops and rt hardware acceleration as shown above, 1440p runs and looks great though on a single card
can't stop running around chucking flares everywhere haha
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Gavin Stevens
Formerly 'o'dium'
Just to let you all know, I've started working on the re-texture/re-model Quake 2 RTX project from nVidia. I'll be working on assets, bringing them up to spec for current generation quality, BUT, I won't be making drastic changes. I'll be trying my best to keep things more inline with how they looked traditionally. I may add detail here and there of course, but I won't be doing crazy huge changes. Basic shapes and forms will get a little refresh, but nothing MAJOR, like some of the updates do. I've only just started today, like an hours work, so its early days yet. But anyway... Preview time:
(For those who don't know, I'm the co-founder of Team Blur Games, and our first project was the Quake II Source port, Quake II Evolved. I worked with several artists, many of which you will find have media that's used in the RTX update including my own. So making media for older Quake games isn't exactly new ground to me. But all that media is 10-15 years old, and was never made for PBR, hence why it doesn't look great).
(For those who don't know, I'm the co-founder of Team Blur Games, and our first project was the Quake II Source port, Quake II Evolved. I worked with several artists, many of which you will find have media that's used in the RTX update including my own. So making media for older Quake games isn't exactly new ground to me. But all that media is 10-15 years old, and was never made for PBR, hence why it doesn't look great).
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Gigadeath22
Neo Member
2160p using Nvidia Ansel upscaling and pause mode
(upscaled from 1920x1080 - ~59-75 fps w/ Global Illumination medium)
RTX 2070
i7-9700k
(upscaled from 1920x1080 - ~59-75 fps w/ Global Illumination medium)
RTX 2070
i7-9700k
keraj37
Member
In that case sorry, I just said what I heard in one yt video.