It won't. Activision let the licenses on every single piece of DLC expire at the same time. They haven't been available for purchase for years now.
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Guitar Hero for PS4 and Xbox One announced early April?
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It won't. Activision let the licenses on every single piece of DLC expire at the same time. They haven't been available for purchase for years now.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Yay I guess. The only great thing is that they'll produce more hardware. Will get a guitar and game bundle and will grab a full Rock Band bundle.
Juke Joint Jezebel
Member
Only positive thing I can see coming from this for me, is better guitar controllers. The chance of DLC being transferred over to the new GH is slim to none so Rock Band has already won the battle for my money and dedication, Activision have always done a shit job supporting their previous customers when it came to GH.
Green Yoshi
Member
I thought Neversoft is done. Who will produce it then?
SolidSnakex
Member
It's rumored to be Freestyle Games. They're best known for the DJ Hero games.
jackissocool
Member
Yeah this is very worrisome, I hope they don't kill this again.
AlphaTwo00
Member
Is it confirmed it's FSG? Guess we now know what they've been doing after that disaster with Sing on Wii U.
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Deleted member 47027
Unconfirmed Member
How dare they
Chromium.Wings
Member
As someone who's always preferred GH:
Yes, I am aware. But Rock Band never competed with Guitar Hero 2. Legends of Rock was more fun to me than Rock Band 1 was. The best way to play Guitar Hero 1, 2, and 80s songs was on Smash Hits.
Don't get me wrong, I still like Rock Band, but the presentation of Guitar Hero post-Encore: 80s was just on a whole different level.
Shift Breaker
Member
The latter GH games had a lot of perks that the RB series didn't. Expert + for drums and open notes for bass were different and fun, plus while I may complain about GHIII, it was the first game where HO/POs were manually added rather than the engine adding them automatically like in the Harmonix Guitar Hero games and the first Rock Band. Plus all the little nuances were great too, with different Hyperspeed settings for different instruments, Warriors of Rock's method of unlocking different clothing/instruments which allowed you to make your band the way you want without having to own every peripheral and also be able to master it unlike RB3, as well as the fun it had with animations. Your singer's slide onto the stage during Old Time Rock and Roll in World Tour, Bohemian Rhapsody as a whole in Warriors of Rock, plus many others. And as a little thing I like, the on-disc songs weren't ordered as specifically as they were on Rock Band and we didn't get easy songs added to the final tier of an instrument just to make it even. I prefer the Rock Band series, but the Guitar Hero games as a whole had a lot going for them and they certainly felt much more creative and that's more appealing to some people. Yeah, there were flaws, the World Tour engine games were ugly as sin (although credit to GH5 for taking the art style, adding a few tweaks and making it look great), a few things were broken here and there (purple notes in WT, Expert+ on 5) and Quest Mode on the whole (The Rush section was both great and cringeworthy at the same time) but it's totally okay to prefer Guitar Hero because it's got a lot going for it.
It's complicated, but here's the studio situation for the ones that did work on the series:
-Red Octane (a.k.a. the studio that made the hardware): has been dead since shortly after WoR's release.
-Neversoft (developers of GH3, Aerosmith, WT, Metallica, GH5, Band Hero, and WoR): was taken off the series following WoR to focus on an original IP that wound up being cancelled, turned into a support studio for Call of Duty before being absorbed into Infinity Ward.
-Vicarious Visions (developers of the Wii ports of the Guitar Hero games, as well as the DS On Tour series and the mobile Guitar Hero game that came out for iOS): was assigned to work on GH7 following Neversoft's departure from the series, but the terrible sales of WoR made them reconsider and they wound up scuttling the project and firing a chunk of the studio. Have since become the second big player in Skylanders development.
-Beenox (developer of Smash Hits and Van Halen): they became the dedicated Spider-Man game dev, but with the license on that being of questionable status these days, they've now become a support studio for Skylanders.
The Outsider
Member
Always preferred RB personally, but that was pretty much after Activision ran the GH franchise into the ground.
As such, I remain cautiously optimistic.
As such, I remain cautiously optimistic.
OnionPowder
Member
The best year
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Oh god, another plastic instrument war begins. How long will it take to crash this time? What band specific games will they churn out in 2016??
OnionPowder
Member
Things are a lot different than 2009. Don't be surprised if everything is digital expansions.
Me. I found RB to be a bore. GH games are goofy and fun.
thekonamicode
Member
Cool news for GH fans. I'm more of a Rock Band guy (I like to play with friends). My 800 songs will carry over perfectly into RB4, which is beyond exciting.
I also prefer the RB controllers and in game art style and UI.
I also prefer the RB controllers and in game art style and UI.
This annoys me because they are obviously trying to steal Rock Band's thunder and in doing so, they might churn out a half baked product.
I hope they just focus on guitar instead of a full band because that's their strong suit. Everyone keeps saying they want a GH revival just for their guitars, but Acitivsion killed off RedOctane so idk if new guitars will match their quality.
I hope they just focus on guitar instead of a full band because that's their strong suit. Everyone keeps saying they want a GH revival just for their guitars, but Acitivsion killed off RedOctane so idk if new guitars will match their quality.
Journey
Banned
From what I noticed, Rockband retained the narrow accuracy threshold, while Guitar Hero was much more forgiving but made complicated note arrangements. Rockband feels more real to me, like what you'll do while playing the actual instrument, GH was fun and challenging with some wild note arrangements, but easier to pull off hammer-ons. Guitar Hero went down hill after Guitar Hero Metallica, my personal favorite, but overall Rockband gets the most respect from me.
Quadraphonic
Member
Yes. But look at game series like Hot Shots Golf after Camelot left and Clap Hanz took over.
Just because a company started it, it doesn't mean they can't improve on it or take it in a different direction.
Neversoft's Guitar Hero had a lot of differences that made it worthwhile to exist. Especially because competition was and is important. (Look how many people prefer the GH hardware)
Both games have been in development on and off for years after the last ones were released. It's not like they heard this announcement and suddenly got the idea to greenlight the game. In fact, my internal sources expected the GH announcement before Rock Band 4 had one.
More than one version of a newer GH was scrapped because it wasn't up to snuff.
Activision didn't kill Neversoft. They absorbed the team into Infinity Ward after Neversoft couldn't make a game worth a damn after losing GH. They prided themselves on releasing products on time, and that wasn't going to be possible with a totally new franchise and Call of Duty fever dwarfing everything else Activision. Remember how many rumors of the myriad of Call of Duty spinoffs there were a few years back and how few came true?
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Allow me to use my old Guitar and I'm in Activision.
toymachine
Member
Predicting a subscription based service like Xbox Karaoke
blacklotus
Member
1 plastic guitar every 3 years.
1 new game every 3 years.
DLC every 3 months. At a reasonable price.
Do it.
1 new game every 3 years.
DLC every 3 months. At a reasonable price.
Do it.
glaringradio
Member
Konami, now is the time. IIDX Ultimate Collection for PS4/XBO. Ah who am I kidding, the king of rhythm gaming in the home died long ago. Sigh.
GamingKaiju
Member
Activision need to realize that GH died because they tried to make it into a RB clone instead of focusing on what made GH great in the first place. Having amazing tracks that played extremely well. I'm a big GH\RB fan but when GH went the route of RB it lost all of it's identity the tracks were poor very and few that I actually liked after GH3.
And yes releasing a new game so quick also helped but the core gameplay was changed when they introduced the new instruments, return to GH1-3+80's Rock with some excellent tracks and I'm there Day0.
Still buying RB though lol
And yes releasing a new game so quick also helped but the core gameplay was changed when they introduced the new instruments, return to GH1-3+80's Rock with some excellent tracks and I'm there Day0.
Still buying RB though lol
Lady Siara
Member
Truthfully, that's one of the reasons I'm quite excited for RB4. All of the exclusive artist contracts are long expired by now so it's a wild west again.
toymachine
Member
pfft there is no way Activision is letting go of Metallica, I am so sure there will be a bunch in this GH
bananafactory
Banned
Awesome.
Move aside Rock Band, we are witnessing the return of the king.
Move aside Rock Band, we are witnessing the return of the king.
toymachine
Member
Anyone excited to see if this actually happens tomorrow?
I like the style of the note track better on Guitar Hero. The circles work better than the rectangles.
toymachine
Member
It's also possible to like both games, it's a shocking concept but I mean it is 2015.
Are they really gonna announce it on April fools day?
I'm excited to see what it'll be all about though.
toymachine
Member
The thought has crossed my mind that Gamereactor was going to post this for 4/01/2015 but messed up but I'm suppressing such thoughts lol
Mushroomer25
Member
Guys..
What if this is all an elaborate smokescreen to announce DJ Hero 3?
I take hope where I can find it, dammit.
urgh, was hoping it would just be RB4 this year at least. I just don't want Activision to run it into the ground before it even has a chance at becoming a living genre again.
However I'm super curious to see how the two differ and I hope they're both excellent.
Thing is, will it support previous DLC? How many people care outside of a niche of insane RB players? I know it matters to me a ton, but not as much as a fun/quality new game.
However I'm super curious to see how the two differ and I hope they're both excellent.
Thing is, will it support previous DLC? How many people care outside of a niche of insane RB players? I know it matters to me a ton, but not as much as a fun/quality new game.
toymachine
Member
It (Guitar Hero) probably won't support previous DLC since they removed all of it...
toymachine
Member
is one of those the venue name?