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GWENT closed beta now underway
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Kane Zakharov
Banned
Yennefer is such a dumb card. I don't get why they haven't changed how it works. Her HP isn't the problem.
ThreePiMatt
Member
The strength change was to put her in range of Iorveth/Roche and it seemed like an effective change because she definitely sees a lot less play than before.
I've done that quite a few times, when drunk or tired I find the opposing row to be a harsh matter of debate in my head
Glass Shark
Banned
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That's a shame, is maybe recommend waiting for the single player story mode to drop and giving it another shot. The community as a whole has some very strong decks so easing in against a computer might help you get the ropes down.
Tenacious-D
Member
Just reached rank 10 and level 26. As per usual, all my kegs were shit.
I was rank 2 when the Nilfgaard patch hit, and only started playing during the last patch, the one with all the PFI's. I've played a ton, and I'll get a bunch of kegs when the open beta hits so I think I'll give it a rest now.
They still need to solve the problem that every patch, they make a bunch of the cards completely useless, which means that you only see about 3-6 different kinds of decks being played. Monsters is the most common as it's the cheapest to craft, Scoia is the rarest as it's crazy expensive to craft. They need to find a balance. Personally I'd like to play Scoia, but the keg gods haven chosen to give me more Northern Realms cards, so I play that.
When the plan comes together, playing Pavetta and Sabrina is great fun. Unfortunately, you can only do it so many times before it gets stale. The staleness is going to be an even bigger problem when you get to singleplayer, as I imagine that they will give you a somewhat predetermined deck to play each campaign.
Also wish that they would drop some info about the campaigns. "Apparently" one of them will feature Meve. I guess they're going to do the story from the book.
F2P is very generous I must say. Never bought a keg, although I might buy some, and definitely the campaigns if they're handled well.
I was rank 2 when the Nilfgaard patch hit, and only started playing during the last patch, the one with all the PFI's. I've played a ton, and I'll get a bunch of kegs when the open beta hits so I think I'll give it a rest now.
They still need to solve the problem that every patch, they make a bunch of the cards completely useless, which means that you only see about 3-6 different kinds of decks being played. Monsters is the most common as it's the cheapest to craft, Scoia is the rarest as it's crazy expensive to craft. They need to find a balance. Personally I'd like to play Scoia, but the keg gods haven chosen to give me more Northern Realms cards, so I play that.
When the plan comes together, playing Pavetta and Sabrina is great fun. Unfortunately, you can only do it so many times before it gets stale. The staleness is going to be an even bigger problem when you get to singleplayer, as I imagine that they will give you a somewhat predetermined deck to play each campaign.
Also wish that they would drop some info about the campaigns. "Apparently" one of them will feature Meve. I guess they're going to do the story from the book.
F2P is very generous I must say. Never bought a keg, although I might buy some, and definitely the campaigns if they're handled well.
Tenacious-D
Member
Snakethesniper
Member
Is there a place where to ask for a beta code?
Ok so I played the tutorial - opened my 2 kegs (not sure if I should have right now, I basically picked the 5th cards as random ones I didn't have).
So am I right in assuming Campaign still isn't out?
The only way to level up is play casual or ranked games vs people?
Gwentdb still doesn't have a tracker (I think), so how do I tell if I can make some f2p deck without having to manually go through everything in my inventory.
First impressions:
- It's a nice game, the round of 3 is a nice touch - removes some of the luck factor that fucks you over in hs.
- I find the melee/ranged/siege lanes system an interesting idea.
- Definitely requires a little more thinking that hs (maybe I'm just feeling that because it's a new game for me).
So am I right in assuming Campaign still isn't out?
The only way to level up is play casual or ranked games vs people?
Gwentdb still doesn't have a tracker (I think), so how do I tell if I can make some f2p deck without having to manually go through everything in my inventory.
First impressions:
- It's a nice game, the round of 3 is a nice touch - removes some of the luck factor that fucks you over in hs.
- I find the melee/ranged/siege lanes system an interesting idea.
- Definitely requires a little more thinking that hs (maybe I'm just feeling that because it's a new game for me).
gwentify has a collection manager. And plenty of cheap decks on there. I think more people use gwentdb but I personally like gwentify better.
No campaign yet no, there was a video leak and it looks really fun, hopefully out soon. Can only level up by playing against people yea.
Went through the F2P decks on both sites - I'm actually missing quite a few cards from them lol. So much for f2p.
Anyways, I created a simple Skellige deck and been playing around with it. Simple and difficult at the same time. Need a decent mulligan to start off, otherwise can get completely overpowered (at least that's been my experience so far).
How does the friend system work in this game? Can't see any friend-list, and clicking on Play vs Friend just took me to an empty external tab.
Anyways, I created a simple Skellige deck and been playing around with it. Simple and difficult at the same time. Need a decent mulligan to start off, otherwise can get completely overpowered (at least that's been my experience so far).
How does the friend system work in this game? Can't see any friend-list, and clicking on Play vs Friend just took me to an empty external tab.
Friend system goes through GOG, have to enable the overlay in GOG settings and add friends for it to work. It's still really bad though. GOG Galaxy is terrible.
ThreePiMatt
Member
Witcher 3 Gwent was about exploiting spies and decoys to build up ridiculous card advantage so you could then play a ton of cards for huge numbers. New Gwent is a lot more about bluffing and and trying to out-maneuver your opponent.
Won a lot tonight, 1 win away from Rank 14, lose of course, game after a draw and lose another 19 points. That system is so fucking unfair.
lol
Edit: And I made iiiitttt!
500 ores ontop of finishing my second set of dailies with that win, so I can open another 7 kegs after reaching 14. Plus another 2 kegs for after the wipe. Yay!
lol
Edit: And I made iiiitttt!
500 ores ontop of finishing my second set of dailies with that win, so I can open another 7 kegs after reaching 14. Plus another 2 kegs for after the wipe. Yay!
CornBurrito
Member
F2P is different than "starter cards only"
ThreePiMatt
Member
Everything gets wiped, but you'll get some bonus kegs based on your what your rank and level is at the end of the beta.
ThreePiMatt
Member
Yeah, this is among the least fun I've had since the beta started.
CornBurrito
Member
In what way? The fact that buffs are remembered? Or the First Light nerfs?
Huh, was playing vs a ST trap buff deck. He copied his silver card of course and put it down twice, the row was frosted but they stayed at 22 strength anyway, it never would in the past, that's how I beat them. Bug?
It's a game issue some people have problems with. The slightest hiccup in the internet makes them disconnect. Luckily I don't have this. But sometimes it happens to my opponents.
It's a game issue some people have problems with. The slightest hiccup in the internet makes them disconnect. Luckily I don't have this. But sometimes it happens to my opponents.
He played quen?
Finally got level 40 so that's nice for after the wipe. Went back and forth on the ladder but reached my highest mmr so far.
I did see it in his graveyard, don't remember him playing it, might have bounced it, but quen doesn't stop weather does it? Or does it work like that for the trap because of the change or something?
I did see it in his graveyard, don't remember him playing it, might have bounced it, but quen doesn't stop weather does it? Or does it work like that for the trap because of the change or something?
Quen stops the first damage reducing effect and since you can now apply it to cards in your hand, the only thing that could reduce the strength of trap cards (weather) can now be blocked.
Edit: It was a stealth pretty good change actually. Surprised I don't see quen more, probably because current meta relies so heavily on thunder.
DiscoShark
Banned
Oh wow, some interesting stuff in there. The Axeman change makes sense, they still synergize with cards like Tremors and Yennefer that still wound the entire field while still making them the perfect support unit for cards like Harold and Lugos. They're not in a position where they'll effectively ignore Yen Conjurer now if you had 2 or more and they won't be quite as oppressive if you run a deck that specializes in wounding the other side (Henselt siege or something). As someone who loved Axeman pre-nilfgaard Im glad that they're being brought back in line with the rest of the field. I won't feel dirty using my favorite cards again.
A lot of the Skellige changes seem to be aimed at making Discard a more viable archetype again as well. 3 discards with King Bran make for a guaranteed 6 damage from each warship which puts them on the level of Mangonels while giving you more in the way of deck thinning and utility. The changes to King Bran with Nilfgaard patch made it so it didnt make sense to have so many of the discardables in your hand vs. in your deck so the changes to make Ermion and that-other-skellige-discarder- draw before you discard makes them almost guaranteed slots in my discard decks again. Draig changes are going to actively bring Queensguard back into the fray.
Shame they didn't do anything to Wild Boar of the Sea, still a waste of a gold slot for something that requires far too much in the way of setup.
Not sure how I feel about the D-bomb change, it's nice for consistencies sake for sure as they no longer have a distinctly unique effect compared to shackles but it makes for an effective buff for weather in a meta where we're already seeing a bunch of complaints about them. They're going to have to do something more to blizzard potion to incentivize my putting them in the deck, as is they're still dead cards in an environment where you're not up against weather.
Apparently all silver weather cards are now pick one. Rip tragicstar weather. Back to queensguard I guess!
Just checked, Skellige Storm, Merigolds Hailstorm, White Frost, all trash now. Along with the Avallach, foglet, and crones nerf, don't think monster weather is good anymore.
Just checked, Skellige Storm, Merigolds Hailstorm, White Frost, all trash now. Along with the Avallach, foglet, and crones nerf, don't think monster weather is good anymore.
ThreePiMatt
Member
If they're pick one now, what of Aeromancy?
Either way, the core problem of weather has always been that there are way more ways to create weather than there was to remove it. Short of completely removing some of those silver weathers, this is probably the only option left.
Personally, I'd argue that Woodland Spirit and Caranthir are still overbudgeted. If the normal gold card "budget" is 12 strength, both of those are 10 strength, split up between gold and bronze and weather. When you consider all the side benefits of those cards, the deck thinning with Foglets, Wild Hunt synergy with Caranthir hounds, epidemic/Rot Tosser protection, etc, those are very valuable Gold cards.
ThreePiMatt
Member
Doesn't seem like anyone really cares about the weather changes since after playing about dozen matches the game is still rotten with weather decks.
Still trying to play some sort of alternative Northern Realms deck but they're all just trash. The faction is just trash right now if you're not playing Radovid, and even that people are beginning to figure out.
Still trying to play some sort of alternative Northern Realms deck but they're all just trash. The faction is just trash right now if you're not playing Radovid, and even that people are beginning to figure out.
Been trying out this deck in casual. It's super fun to play. I was playing another version of queensguard, and faced against another queensguard. And he had the raiders and ciri dash and svanrige. So I changed my deck around a bit and made this. When I played against him he ended up with 0 cards left so Ciri Dash guaranteed. I didn't have 0 cards left yet, but 2 I think. Or 1 left with Ciri Dash in hand. Who was 16 by that point, along with super strong queensguard/cerys and buffed up sigfrida and draig decoy'd etc.
Tricky to play but super fun. If anybody can help me play it better any tips would be welcome. I think I'm playing it right but not 100% sure. Gonna try in casual few more times before trying it in ranked.
Edit: Just replaced Operator with Donar, Operator was useless most of the time, since I don't want to give the other guy some of my ability cards and 9 out of 10 times I'd never get him together with draig. Now I can discard and draw 1 more card. Let's see how this goes.
Tricky to play but super fun. If anybody can help me play it better any tips would be welcome. I think I'm playing it right but not 100% sure. Gonna try in casual few more times before trying it in ranked.
Edit: Just replaced Operator with Donar, Operator was useless most of the time, since I don't want to give the other guy some of my ability cards and 9 out of 10 times I'd never get him together with draig. Now I can discard and draw 1 more card. Let's see how this goes.
toastyToast
Member
Nice changes there although I'm gonna miss Vran eating on the first turn. Also it gettting bumped up to 6 kind of ruins it's KoB synergy. What I did was consume enough to get nekkers over 5 then from there King of Beggars pulls Vrans and gets eaten immediately starting arachas train. Kind of expected Avallach to go up to 10. 8 is nice.
CornBurrito
Member
You're basically never going to have a complete deck without spending money because by the time you save up for a single deck as a F2P player it will be nerfed significantly and no scrap refunds.
Yep feeling that way right now. Though I can't really complain, it's still in beta so technically we are all just QA for the Gwent team.
Still annoying when literally every person recommends weather monster, I start picking monster cards + crafting them, and then it gets a pretty big nerf.
toastyToast
Member
Weather monsters works fine. The crux of the strategy is that you have more ways to apply weather than there are ways to clear it. This is still true. Try as people might the bulk of their strength will be restricted to one or two rows at the most. Yeah the dual weathers are a worse Aeromancy but you use them because they give you 6+ ways total to apply weather.
waxinlyrical
Member
City17 wrecked me 2-0, ggs man
I just started trying Nilfgaard after the hotfix, made this deck:
http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/12053-ciri-dooby-do-where-are-you
Seems pretty strong to me: Can reliably dig up Ciri Dash 2 times in a match, 3 is not uncommon either. Rot-Tosser -> Weather seems super dirty, like Coral + Geralt:Aard from last patch, except it uses a silver and a bronze, and you can have multiple attempts at setting it up. Not super sure about the bronzes. Nauzicaa Brigade and Emissary seem like they might be not optimal.
I just started trying Nilfgaard after the hotfix, made this deck:
http://www.gwentdb.com/decks/12053-ciri-dooby-do-where-are-you
Seems pretty strong to me: Can reliably dig up Ciri Dash 2 times in a match, 3 is not uncommon either. Rot-Tosser -> Weather seems super dirty, like Coral + Geralt:Aard from last patch, except it uses a silver and a bronze, and you can have multiple attempts at setting it up. Not super sure about the bronzes. Nauzicaa Brigade and Emissary seem like they might be not optimal.
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
When can you play our tourny match btw? I can play tonight.