TheSpaceBetween
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I still get depressed thinking about this. Dreams do come true though.
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Half-Life 3: 10 years of not playing the most essential sequel in history
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HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Seriously. I love both games. Love them. They are highly powerful in the sense of who I am as a creator today.
I would love a Half-Life 3.
But I'm a bit confused as to why the hype is still warranted. I'd understand it if Valve was cranking out a hit game year after year, but they are very, very, veeeeeeeeeeery publicly a tech-first company now. This has been stated and demonstrated year after year.
Yes, the TF team does or used to do almost frequent major updates, but Valve has not seemed interested in Half-Life in over a decade.
Right now, the only thing that might push a HL3 is if J.J. Abrams' Half-Life movie ever gets made.
Jason Frost
Member
Just a stupid question:
Why do people keep talking about Half-Life 3?
We were only supposed to get Half-Life 2: Episode Three after Half-Life 2: Episode Two, but Half-Life 3 was never really confirmed.
Why do people keep talking about Half-Life 3?
We were only supposed to get Half-Life 2: Episode Three after Half-Life 2: Episode Two, but Half-Life 3 was never really confirmed.
Because we never got HL Episode 3. The story is unresolved.
But also, it was a massive game. It's pretty rare that something so huge and influential doesn't get a sequel.
Jason Frost
Member
Yeah I know, but Half-Life 2: Episode Three was not Half-Life 3.
MisterAnderson
Member
Once it became clear that they weren't going to release Episode 3, it was assumed that they were going to skip that and go straight to Half-Life 3.
Honestly, I don't know why they didn't just stick to the episodic shit and just resolve the goddamn story. All they really needed to do was release one more Episode using the same engine. Now they've waited too long and they have to make an entire new game to justify the wait/the aged engine.
JustSomeone
Member
Thank you for sharing that information. I'm sure it's important to a lot of people.
Death Penalty
Member
With Valve's creative heart excised since Half-Life 2: Episode 2 I'd be more worried than hyped if Half-Life 3 was announced... I've finally come to accept that it's dead.
Colossal Moo
Member
I seriously doubt they are working on it. It does not take 10 years to make an FPS video game. To give you an example, Mass Effect 1 and Bioshock 1 were both released about the same time as Half Life 2 Episode 2 was released. Since then, we have gotten 3 additional Mass Effect games and two Bioshock games. Another example is we have gotten 3 Uncharted games since Half Life 2 Episode 2 was released. The point is Valve has had ample time to release Half Life 3. This implies that they either canceled it or never started working on it after HL2 Episode 2 shipped.
Brat-Sampson
Member
It's basically like if GRRM just straight-up stopped writing ASOIAF books and started writing something else instead, the new thing went on to be insanely popular and he just never went back to the original series. He never claimed to have officially stopped working on it, but then gradually the hope died. Oh, and also if it turned out he'd deleted all the relevant notes and files from his PC/brain (what with most of the original writers/talent having left the company).
TheSinkingKnight
Member
Never would have played this series if I knew this was going to never happen.
I remember when 2009 hit, I was like 'The is the year for ep 3'
Soon to be 12 mainline COD titles released since ep 2 lmao.
I remember when 2009 hit, I was like 'The is the year for ep 3'
Soon to be 12 mainline COD titles released since ep 2 lmao.
Yeah I don't care about Half Life 3, I want a follow up to episode 2's cliffhanger, not a new story. I don't understand why they didn't release it. They didn't need anything groundbreaking or technologically incredible, the episodes were more limited in scope than the main game, but still effective.
Ein Bear
Member
My favourite one of these is: the entire Assassin's Creed franchise has existed in the gap between Episode 2 and HL3.
masterkajo
Member
PLOT TWIST: we only have to blame ourselves.
JustSomeone
Member
So it's like real life?
Daffy Duck
Member
Do we know why Half Life has been treated this way by Valve?
I know that article that talked about the crunch and development that was really interesting but this whole not saying anything, nothing at all is just really weird and I don't know why or what reason they have.
I know that article that talked about the crunch and development that was really interesting but this whole not saying anything, nothing at all is just really weird and I don't know why or what reason they have.
Evil Monkey DTT
Banned
Fixed that for ya.
Battlesmurf
Member
Valve seems to tease it *just* enough that people still have hope.
I think they're incredibly mean for that. "It's not coming" would go a long way. Resolve the story in a 4 part comic series- instead of the random easter eggs and promises lol
GameAddict411
Member
Here are some important things to consider:
1- it's never going to release
2- even if it releases it's never going to meet up expectations
3- move on there are better game franchises elsewhere.
The only thing interesting is why they canned the game. Half life was a huge success, and releasing a sequel would have been more money for Valve and also recognition. I am fully aware of their policy of quality over money. I think it might come to the simple idea of trying to innovate until they hit a certain point where it was too late to release a sequel. The hype is just too high.
1- it's never going to release
2- even if it releases it's never going to meet up expectations
3- move on there are better game franchises elsewhere.
The only thing interesting is why they canned the game. Half life was a huge success, and releasing a sequel would have been more money for Valve and also recognition. I am fully aware of their policy of quality over money. I think it might come to the simple idea of trying to innovate until they hit a certain point where it was too late to release a sequel. The hype is just too high.
dread_nought
Neo Member
To be honest, I think HL 2 Ep1 and 2 did a better job than the original HL 2 in term of storytelling and gameplay wise. The original HL 2was very good, almost everyone loved the Gravity Gun, but I hardly found the fun in playing it, except for the last level when it suddenly turned into a god like weapon. But man, this kind of topic makes me remember of 2004, the best year in gaming I've ever experienced. Doom 3 and HL 2 coming out in the same year, Far Cry pushed the hardware to the max, PoP WW with the amazing soundtracks, also tons of memorable games that I could not listed out here. So much memory just for that year...
I don't think they care, they make more money than they ever dreamed they would
They said in 2011 Portal 2 would be their last single player experience
They were not lying about that
I would have hoped Valve being in the position they are in would mean we'd see a lot of Portal-esque single player experiments, but nope
It's just hats I suppose
Alexander DeLarge
Member
Anyone that expected anything non-Dota related from the International was set to be disappointed no matter what. We at least know they'll be announcing stuff in October at Steam Dev Days.
K.E. Keith
Member
Heh.
TheSecondSpitter
Member
Because Valve made Half Life 3 t-shirts and because they said they will stop the episodic approach
Nintendo's Witch
Member
I know it's an unpopular opinion and all but i find the Half Life games highly overrated.
KarneeKarnay
Member
I think we're all upset more that the story we'd all invested time in was cut off abruptly.
Stop me if i'm wrong but we've never heard of the reason why they stopped and that is almost as upsetting as the story never ending.
Plus this franchise didn't follow the rules. It was highly acclaimed. Successful by anyone's standard. It had no good reason just to stop. The only possible reason we've seen in all these years is that Steam blow up.
Stop me if i'm wrong but we've never heard of the reason why they stopped and that is almost as upsetting as the story never ending.
Plus this franchise didn't follow the rules. It was highly acclaimed. Successful by anyone's standard. It had no good reason just to stop. The only possible reason we've seen in all these years is that Steam blow up.
Monado Blade
Member
I'm not sure which we'll see first: DOTA3, Portal 3, or Half-Life 3.
ItalianJoe83
Member
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - Chapter 3: Peace
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Pity we're not going to get a single player focused narrative in the near future.
I don't trust this current version of Valve to be able to produce something like their previous catalogue.
Honestly feel like 2007 is the defining date, every single release since hasn't been up to the same standard as what came before it.
I don't trust this current version of Valve to be able to produce something like their previous catalogue.
Honestly feel like 2007 is the defining date, every single release since hasn't been up to the same standard as what came before it.
Kadayi
Banned
I don't get it either. The outline was pretty simple 'go to Aperture Science Icebreaker, play around with gravity and portal guns together, kick Combine ass, celebrations with Alyx and the resistance cut short by G-Man appearance. Fade to black ' not exactly a stretch in the plot stakes and plenty of scope for interesting and innovative gameplay within the frame. This fiction that somehow it's a design challenge beyond human reckoning as purported by the apologist crowd, is just so much wind.
The reality is once that steam money came in they lost their focus and hubris set in (not helped by a gaming press eager to suck their balls at any given opportunity) and it's no surprise that stagnation and short term thinking became the norm. That staff handbook that 'leaked' reads more and more tragic as the years roll by given the paucity of Valves production.
At this point in time as a PC Gamer, I at best tolerate Valve, because of Steams dominance. but I certainly don't trust them as a company to either see things through or support projects they lose interest in. Recently I was pondering getting a Rift due to the price drop and a friend was all 'no get a Vive instead' and albeit I can acknowledge that the latter is probably the better hardware at this juncture, I'm reluctant to throw hundreds of pounds at a device Valve might well abandon as a venture if the wind suddenly changes direction, or some new project comes along that they decide is more fun to work on. Oculus, their hardware is their product. With Valve, as long as they have the Steam 30% cash cow coming in, much less so.
Alexander DeLarge
Member
https://www.pcgamesn.com/half-life-3/valve-upcoming-games
I can't imagine they're focusing on multiplayer experiences in VR.
Heavy's Sandvich
Member
Im sticking with my prediction - near future.
Sentenza
Member
Sounds almost like a made up story to make a questionable point, frankly.
There aren't that many parts "where you stack items to progress" in the entire game. Let alone jumping from a savepoint to another.
No, not really.
GlassBurrito
Member
Valve says some things, just not directly to anyone but rather through little hints on filenames buried in lines of code.
But the real truth is there is nothing to update so there is nothing to say.
That seems like a pretty good reason, instead of getting reprimanded by fans with unreasonable expectations for a severely delayed title they can simply sit on their hands and rake in the money.
Steam goes "boom" and game development priorities go "splat."
The only personnel that should be working on Episode 3 at this point is the Crowbar Collective. They are closer to completing a AAA level FPS game in their spare time than Valve has even put forward the notion of doing on the clock.