Hypertrooper
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She does not. But she finds out in Spartan Ops Episode 7 'Invasion'. And you are correct. It means the prologue takes place before Halo 4's campaign and Spartan Ops.
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Halo 4 Story Spoilers and Speculations
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Ninja Moomin
Banned
Think about what you are saying?
That the didact can;t communicate over long distances in a universe where manipulating space is common.... look at the slipspace drives and dyson sphere from the books.
LOL
what is 343² doing?
I think it's pretty clear it was looking for the Librarian, and from the perspective of Halo 4 events, it seems it boarded a ship while humanity was in conflict with Storm already.
Can we expect it to appear next week as the mystery around the Librarian will be (probably partially) revealed?
I think it's pretty clear it was looking for the Librarian, and from the perspective of Halo 4 events, it seems it boarded a ship while humanity was in conflict with Storm already.
Can we expect it to appear next week as the mystery around the Librarian will be (probably partially) revealed?
NobleGundam
Banned
Yeah Halsey will be okay. The Keys ability act as an Interstellar Map locating Forerunner Technology is highly insane... but cool at the same time.
The whole vendetta against Halsey sickens me seeing her harmed like that...
I'd understand if it were the enemy but to throw the UNSC/ONI into eliminating their own doing has surely upset fans alike. I blame Karen Travis for this poor writing.
While I hear the recent books haven't been so great, she can't be entirely to blame. I mean 343 probably gave her an outline of their ideas or whatever to follow.
...after death.
You're not making a particularly convincing case about your ability to read.
"LOL" indeed.
I hope the key gets destroyed. That kind of tech is simply too powerful and too big a game changer. It'd wreck a whole lot of dramatic potential--finding the other Halos, etc. Reminds me of the Forerunner AI from "Helljumper"--something incredibly powerful the ODSTs were forced to destroy lest it fall in the wrong hands.
NobleGundam
Banned
I'm pretty positive Halsey knows each sector and solar systems to pinpoint within our Galaxy of Forerunner Tech. in the time the Librarian shortly activated the key.
Professor Anders immediately saw Arcadia System within seconds of the Relics Activation on Harvest.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Say whaaaaa? I doubt Halsey as war criminal is Traviss' idea entirely anyway, but I think it makes sense in the universe. Even though WE know her heart was (mostly) in the right place and we understand her motivations, to everyone else she kidnapped and abused kids as well as caused dozens of families to believe their children had died. I think the plot about Naomi's dad makes a lot of sense in Thursday War. And even though she is a really great character, Halsey is also a selfish dick - it just so happens that her goals sometimes dovetail with humanity's.
IMO the two Traviss books have been really really good stuff, I'd say they were better in terms of character than Nylund's stuff, and it's miles better than Bear's stuff which is rather excruciating and confusing.
HiredN00bs
Member
Yeah, they are enjoyable. The character development is good, and just an aside, the narration is excellent on the audiobooks. The narrator gives each character a unique voice so it really feels like you're listening to a play. It's awesome.
I just finished Thursday War, and I'm only now realizing that they are probably going to try (potential 3rd Travis novel spoilers)
exploiting Naomi's relationship with her father to get an in to acquiring the Pious Inquisitor!
NobleGundam
Banned
Halsey acts as a selfish dick if others interfere with her work. Being a dick to her (Palmer) and/or chooses being ignorant.
What gains has she ever collected for herself only over humanity? Even labeled a "War Criminal" her fascination & drive over Forerunner knowledge has always been to help Humanity's next evolutionary step. As she has put it "Our Destiny As A Species".
Its not completely the label that is given to her which bothers me, its the Hate & Confusion that reflects humanity (UNSC/ONI) that follows along with it onto her.
Introducing the Mark of Shame, almost. Once she has acquired a larger purpose to keep her in saving humanity's ass (yet again) then that label will be removed and changed.
Who's next to follow up on the hate train? Master Chief, John? Yup. Captain Del Rio was a Huge success... Not. This Dramatization is poor writing.
NobleGundam
Banned
My SpOps Theories:
Eventually Majestic/Crimson needs to save Halsey from Jul M'dama and take the 2nd piece of the Janus Key from him then make their way towards the "Absolute Record" in Spartan Ops Episode 10.
Janus Key is the Map and the Absolute Record is the Ship? Gateway/Portal?
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Taken from Halopedia:
Librarian: "This is the Janus Key. It offers the real-time location of every piece of Forerunner technology in the galaxy. Halsey: "Every piece?"
The Librarian connects the two pieces together. Holograms ofstarsystemsburst from it andsurround the two women. Halsey examines them in fascination.
Librarian: "We did not create so much without a means tocatalog it all. This was meantfor my husband to help you people...when his meditation was complete."
The Librarian separates the pieces, and the holograms disappear. She holds out the pieces to Halsey.
Librarian: "Take this key to the Absolute Record. Use what you find to propel humankind." Halsey: "Why give this to me?" Librarian: "Requiem's time is at an end. The key and what it details must not be lost."
Halsey tentatively takes the pieces from her. With a flash, Jul 'Mdama pulls her out the artifact, Halsey still clutching the keys. 'Mdama notices a piece and takes it from her.
Jul 'Mdama: "(Sangheili) This is the Librarian's gift?"
'Mdama drops Halsey and examines the half-key, unaware that Halsey has the other.
Jul 'Mdama: "(Sangheili) This is what we came for? Full of the Forerunner's secrets?"
'Mdama's guard screams and is thrown in the arm. Thorne uncloaks and pulls out his assaultrifle.
Halsey: "Thorne!!"
'Mdama grabs Halsey and holds her in front of him.
Jul 'Mdama: "(Sangheili) Blasphemy! Kill the intruder!"
The other guard swings its sword. Thorne ducks, hits its head, then fires an assaultrifle burstintoits chest.
Halsey: "Thorne, take the key!"
Halsey tosses her half of the Janus Key to him. Thorne catches it, and examines it.He looksupupon hearing a gunshot, and sees an Elite about to attack him fall dead from Palmer's sudden rescue.
Eventually Majestic/Crimson needs to save Halsey from Jul M'dama and take the 2nd piece of the Janus Key from him then make their way towards the "Absolute Record" in Spartan Ops Episode 10.
Janus Key is the Map and the Absolute Record is the Ship? Gateway/Portal?
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Taken from Halopedia:
Librarian: "This is the Janus Key. It offers the real-time location of every piece of Forerunner technology in the galaxy. Halsey: "Every piece?"
The Librarian connects the two pieces together. Holograms ofstarsystemsburst from it andsurround the two women. Halsey examines them in fascination.
Librarian: "We did not create so much without a means tocatalog it all. This was meantfor my husband to help you people...when his meditation was complete."
The Librarian separates the pieces, and the holograms disappear. She holds out the pieces to Halsey.
Librarian: "Take this key to the Absolute Record. Use what you find to propel humankind." Halsey: "Why give this to me?" Librarian: "Requiem's time is at an end. The key and what it details must not be lost."
Halsey tentatively takes the pieces from her. With a flash, Jul 'Mdama pulls her out the artifact, Halsey still clutching the keys. 'Mdama notices a piece and takes it from her.
Jul 'Mdama: "(Sangheili) This is the Librarian's gift?"
'Mdama drops Halsey and examines the half-key, unaware that Halsey has the other.
Jul 'Mdama: "(Sangheili) This is what we came for? Full of the Forerunner's secrets?"
'Mdama's guard screams and is thrown in the arm. Thorne uncloaks and pulls out his assaultrifle.
Halsey: "Thorne!!"
'Mdama grabs Halsey and holds her in front of him.
Jul 'Mdama: "(Sangheili) Blasphemy! Kill the intruder!"
The other guard swings its sword. Thorne ducks, hits its head, then fires an assaultrifle burstintoits chest.
Halsey: "Thorne, take the key!"
Halsey tosses her half of the Janus Key to him. Thorne catches it, and examines it.He looksupupon hearing a gunshot, and sees an Elite about to attack him fall dead from Palmer's sudden rescue.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Rather shocking this thread hasn't seen a reply since the season conclusion. Dat Halsey ain't too happy about her arm....
victreeb3l
Member
i completely forgot new chapters went up after the break
didnt bother playing them but saw all the movies. pretty crazy ending, i feel like the next halo game is gonna have chief finding out what happened to halsey and him going on a solo mission trying to get to her, making enemies out of the UNSC as well as everything else trying to kill him.
overall the potential is there for spartan ops but it was so fucking boring i dont think i would ever pay money for them. you can just watch the cinematics online, which were by far the best thing to come out of this.
i also thought it was fucking hilarious the base where mdama was chillin was the level you played like 50 times already. all you had to do was blast a bunch of fucking doors open. nobody inside ever heard any of the shit going on outside either! geez.
also, fuck palmer. terrible character
didnt bother playing them but saw all the movies. pretty crazy ending, i feel like the next halo game is gonna have chief finding out what happened to halsey and him going on a solo mission trying to get to her, making enemies out of the UNSC as well as everything else trying to kill him.
overall the potential is there for spartan ops but it was so fucking boring i dont think i would ever pay money for them. you can just watch the cinematics online, which were by far the best thing to come out of this.
i also thought it was fucking hilarious the base where mdama was chillin was the level you played like 50 times already. all you had to do was blast a bunch of fucking doors open. nobody inside ever heard any of the shit going on outside either! geez.
also, fuck palmer. terrible character
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Damn, this game must be doing awful at least with GAF. The season finale comes up, Kate gets an entire arm blown off and barely a peep out of this thread. Is Halo 4 doing this bad across the globe or is it isolated to this forum?
Oblivionmancer
Member
It was talked about quite a bit in the Halo community thread.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Play the second half of Season 1. It got a lot better. Still not great, but better.
We're on OT15 right now, there's enough to bitch about.
I really liked Halo 4 
For 343i first game it was a great effort but far from perfect, can only get better in my opinion though. Same for Spartan Ops, season 1 was very meh gameplay wise but I think a second season would let them address the problems of the first.
My solution would be to make the gameplay much more similar to Firefight, with increasingly harder enemies, a scoring system and a set number of lives. Next would be to make more episodes like the one aboard the infinity. That was essentially like a campaign mission. Each week have new enviroments, not every chapter of each episode. This will make Spartan Ops much more like a campaign expansion. Lastly the narrative. Make Majestic team interact with Crimson and other characters. Just make me care about pushing buttons by making it mean something.
Also, the term "egghead" must never be said again
For 343i first game it was a great effort but far from perfect, can only get better in my opinion though. Same for Spartan Ops, season 1 was very meh gameplay wise but I think a second season would let them address the problems of the first.
My solution would be to make the gameplay much more similar to Firefight, with increasingly harder enemies, a scoring system and a set number of lives. Next would be to make more episodes like the one aboard the infinity. That was essentially like a campaign mission. Each week have new enviroments, not every chapter of each episode. This will make Spartan Ops much more like a campaign expansion. Lastly the narrative. Make Majestic team interact with Crimson and other characters. Just make me care about pushing buttons by making it mean something.
Also, the term "egghead" must never be said again
Cuban Legend
Member
How is Halsey siding with the covenant not "something big" sure it probably wasn't completely surprising but, C'MON MAN.]
Imagine what'll happen when chief gets word of this, he's liable to go full rouge to save her alone, let alone on the basis to save her so she can fix Cortana.
I think I would have been ok with that if it was the last episode showed.
You egghead.
NobleGundam
Banned
Silentium Spoilers:
There is more than one composer out there.
So far, Librarian is telling about a time when she went to the Tarantula Nebula, which is where they think the flood and Precursors came from.
Didact woke up in the center of a few hundred light years of flood infected systems.
So far, Librarian is telling about a time when she went to the Tarantula Nebula, which is where they think the flood and Precursors came from.
Didact woke up in the center of a few hundred light years of flood infected systems.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Haven't read the book myself (would buy it if not broke) but wow, there's some epic things in those pages.
Major spoiler:
Precursors predating the existence of the universe itself and pretty much take different forms throughout history, their current one being the Flood. Also Precursors being god-like and more powerful than anyone thought.
Damn, I'd love to read this.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Silentium is out??
NekoFever
Member
Yes, although the Kindle one isn't for some reason.
Jedeye Sniv
Banned
Jesus christ, £20 for the hardback? Yeah I'll wait.
It's only $16 here for the hardback, which is a steal considering the digital version is $13.
I'd wholeheartedly recommend it. I'd say its the finest Halo novel written thus far. If the entire franchise ended with this book, I would have been happy.
no bullets hans
Neo Member
I second that. It's the best Halo novel they've released so far.
Cryptum was orientation. Lots of talk about Forerunner and rates and classes and how they handled their business. It was...conceptually interesting with not a lot of action.
Primordium was training. Getting into some of the story meat, some real deep back history, while exploring familiar Halo territory.
Silentium is like a rock concert where every song is based on Rocky IV. Its non-stop awesome.
Cryptum was orientation. Lots of talk about Forerunner and rates and classes and how they handled their business. It was...conceptually interesting with not a lot of action.
Primordium was training. Getting into some of the story meat, some real deep back history, while exploring familiar Halo territory.
Silentium is like a rock concert where every song is based on Rocky IV. Its non-stop awesome.
Der Flatulator
Member
Calm Killer
In all media, only true fans who consume every book, film, game, or pog collection deserve to know what's going on.
I just got it for 14 on amazon.
TacticalFox88
Banned
So...um...yeah, Halo was supposed to be (reasonable) Military Science Fiction...
So why in god's name have
So why in god's name have
we've gotten to Stephen Braxton level of Overpowered absurdity? The Precursors are effing ridiculous
Well everything UNSC-related was fairly reasonable but outside of that I'd say it's always been kinda crazy.
Well, most if not all of their awesome tech was wiped out, so it's not like you have to worry about that in the games or the "present" (26th century.)
Dyson rings, antigrav, FTL and the Halo Array's effects have always been pretty out there in terms of technical feasibility.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
Yeah I see them
getting compared a lot to sci-fi races like the Xeelee and The Culture. I know little about either one except Xeelee are ridiculously powerful to the point they can manipulate space and time which is pretty close to what the Precursors can do. At this point the story can't really go into defeating the Precursors since they're Eldritch Horrors from the time beyond time. Going to be interesting to see where the games head.
Bornstellar
Member
Just finished Silentium.
Well damn. Any ideas on where we're going with Halo 5?
Well damn. Any ideas on where we're going with Halo 5?
We talk about it, a little
FUDcast Ep. 11 - "Where We're Going, We Don't Need Star Roads"
On this episode of the Forward Unto Dawn podcast, we talk Halo: Silentium, plot hooks for the future, and 343i's approach to storytelling. If you haven't read the books, the first 15 minutes or so are spoiler-free basic impressions. You'll be able to tell when we veer into plot details.
Go listen!
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Jedeye Sniv
Banned
oooh a podcast. I've not read Silentium yet (you guys are fast!) but I will go through the library to get myself stoked.
no bullets hans
Neo Member
We talk about it, a little
FUDcast Ep. 11 - "Where We're Going, We Don't Need Star Roads"
On this episode of the Forward Unto Dawn podcast, we talk Halo: Silentium, plot hooks for the future, and 343i's approach to storytelling. If you haven't read the books, the first 15 minutes or so are spoiler-free basic impressions. You'll be able to tell when we veer into plot details.
Go listen!
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Hey, you referenced my post (2689) at like 8:30. Nice.
It was a good comment, sorry I butchered it (I'm really bad about finding people's comments I want to bring up and then losing the original link when it comes time to record
)no bullets hans
Neo Member
lol, its all good.
gollumsluvslave
Member
Just finished Silentium last night.
Fuck Awesome.
To 343 :-
Why in the name of hell was this delayed until after Halo 4?
I'd have loved to have my 1st playthrough of Halo 4 AFTER reading Silentium, it improves the story and especially the Didact tenfold!
It ties so many things together and it blew my mind page after page.
Easily my favourite Halo novel so far.
Fuck Awesome.
To 343 :-
Why in the name of hell was this delayed until after Halo 4?
I'd have loved to have my 1st playthrough of Halo 4 AFTER reading Silentium, it improves the story and especially the Didact tenfold!
It ties so many things together and it blew my mind page after page.
Easily my favourite Halo novel so far.
dragonelite
Member
This, it explains so much.