HiredN00bs
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Hyper, I can't think of a single SPOPS encounter that rivals anything from the campaign. Too often it feels like they just dumped a shitload of enemies into a box.
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Garrett 2U
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I wish Spartan Ops would scale to less players than 4.
Here is the harsh reality...
The story of Spartan Ops isn't engaging. It is shallow and short.
The missions aren't varied, you play one mission, you've played them all.
So the only people who are going to play Spartan Ops through are the completionists.
I can hardly find a second friend who wants to play Spartan Ops with me, because they simply don't care.
And Halo coop netcode is just awful, unbearable, so I'm not going to go into matchmaking where the population is 50 people from all over the world.
So my average experience with Spartan Ops is with one other person on Legendary.
It just isn't fun.
At least Firefight had 2 player gametypes.
Here is the harsh reality...
The story of Spartan Ops isn't engaging. It is shallow and short.
The missions aren't varied, you play one mission, you've played them all.
So the only people who are going to play Spartan Ops through are the completionists.
I can hardly find a second friend who wants to play Spartan Ops with me, because they simply don't care.
And Halo coop netcode is just awful, unbearable, so I'm not going to go into matchmaking where the population is 50 people from all over the world.
So my average experience with Spartan Ops is with one other person on Legendary.
It just isn't fun.
At least Firefight had 2 player gametypes.
Completely agree.
Spartan Ops was woefully below what I expected, and doesn't come close to replacing Firefight. Honestly, ODST Firefight felt meticulously designed and play tested, and Spartan Ops couldn't feel further from that.
I think I was probably more excited for the potential of Spartan Ops than anything else in the game. I thought that if they did it right, it could change the industry and get the ball rolling on AAA episodic content.
But all of that depended on the content being executed well, and frankly, it wasn't. The asset reuse I can look past, that was always in the cards though it started happening more aggressively than I was expecting. I wasn't expecting a drastic overhaul of the netcode, so I can look past it. But the encounter design (fuel rods, fuel rods everywhere!), the enemy AI, and the way they handle waypoints and spawning enemies in (often right on top of the players head) is just abysmal more often than not, and that kills it for me. At this point it's more morbid curiosity, wanting to see the story content, and potential writing topics on how to improve the mode that keep me playing it whenever new content is released rather than the part where I'm playing Halo.
But all of that depended on the content being executed well, and frankly, it wasn't. The asset reuse I can look past, that was always in the cards though it started happening more aggressively than I was expecting. I wasn't expecting a drastic overhaul of the netcode, so I can look past it. But the encounter design (fuel rods, fuel rods everywhere!), the enemy AI, and the way they handle waypoints and spawning enemies in (often right on top of the players head) is just abysmal more often than not, and that kills it for me. At this point it's more morbid curiosity, wanting to see the story content, and potential writing topics on how to improve the mode that keep me playing it whenever new content is released rather than the part where I'm playing Halo.
I've been waiting for more Legendary speedrun a before I play the campaign solo for the cheevo anyhow.
Aside from ODST and Halo CE I've never enjoyed a Halo campaign on legendary; it always feels like a chore and is the spot I feel game difficulty in FPSes hasn't progressed in ten years or more.
Moa
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First time it changes for a long time, and it happens to have a 7777 cR payout.
Yeah but we got Installation 04 and Unearthed which to me are the best of Reach FF.
Also Lost Platoon wouldn't have been the same without Choppers to run around in like a motorcycle gang.
Reagan's BR
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I found all of the members with bad opinions.
But really, let me rephrase that, does anyone find it more fun than Firefight?
But really, let me rephrase that, does anyone find it more fun than Firefight?
You're ahead of me. That is what I was getting at. For the people who like SPOPs was it worth losing firefight? (Or any other features)
Orochinagis
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You get tons of exp very fast in Spartan Ops and I like to help others who still doesnt complete the chapters.
ODST Firefight, I miss the special enemies depending in which map are you playing it and no, Spartan Ops gets boring pretty fast than firefight there is no diversity of objetives,no real pressure, no limited lives, no handicap weapons or loadouts,not a real challenge.
Pop
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Let's don't get carried away now. First they need to produce a TU.
Moa
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Choppers on Lost Platoon don't count!
xxjuicesxx
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wELL AS lONG as YOU got TONS OF EXP rEAL FASt
Orochinagis
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Wait, where is Dominion?
The Lamonster
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It's way more fun when two factions fight each other, like in H2 when the Brutes fought Elites.
I'm hoping the Flood return and infect Prometheans in Halo 5. It will at least make Prometheans more interesting
Word, something like this for a boss round:
Add some cover objects/buildings at the lowground so you can have at it on foot once in a while, drop in some hornets or hogs instead of ordnance weapons once in a blue.
I'm hoping the Flood return and infect Prometheans in Halo 5. It will at least make Prometheans more interesting
That wouldn't make sense. It was a major plot point that these Prometheans existed specifically to avoid flood infection.
The Lamonster
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EagleBurnn
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It's way more fun when two factions fight each other, like in H2 when the Brutes fought Elites.
I'm hoping the Flood return and infect Prometheans in Halo 5. It will at least make Prometheans more interesting
Well besides Prometheans being unable to be infected by the Flood, they're obviously going to return. The Forerunner weapons and how they dissolve enemies is foreshadowing it and Frankie has given strong hints.
I wouldn't mind the Flood returning if they look at CE. The Flood in Halo 2 & 3 were a joke.
squidhands
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Solo, Heroic can be fun on certain maps that aren't vehicle-oriented. Other than that...
Not no, but HELL no. The design of the enemy combat makes the mode very unfair more often than not, probably because of the number of people that the mode is made for (pretty huge oversight, IMO, but then again they stuck it behind the bullshit paywall of Gold, so whatever). In Firefight, there were some pretty great moments of being able to escape a huge cluster of oncoming enemies (or just a few bad-ass ones) by the skin of your teeth, and it was fun and rewarding. There is none of that in SpOps. If you get swarmed by enemies, you're dead and respawning over and over again in a horrible loop of frustration; not once have I played this mode and had that exhilarating feeling that I've had many times in either incarnation of Firefight.
I keep playing SpOps for some reason, though; like I'm going to find some sort of magical sweet spot that scratches the itch like we were told it would. Glutton for punishment, I guess.
MaximumFlipFlop
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Halo 6 ends with the galaxy overrun by the flood/precursors. Humanity follows in the footsteps of the Forerunners by indexing all life, building new Halos, and activating them. Humanity chooses to only save just 1 human, and lock them in a ball. This human betrayed the trust of others, thus the only right thing to do is lock them away in hopes that when they are awoken in the future, they've changed.
HiredN00bs
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The Ancient Evil awakened isn't the Didact, but rather the Spartan IV jocks with their stupid, self-defeating disdain for the science that gave them their ships, weapons, and armor. Or maybe it's the douchey AI Roland with the same perplexing derogatory attitude towards the systems that allow his very existence.
Out-Bungie'd Bungie indeed.
Out-Bungie'd Bungie indeed.
EagleBurnn
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And that one human is Beamish
Orochinagis
Member
Honestly, I won't be satisfied unless ONI becomes the big bad in Halo at some point. They have it coming to them.
The Lamonster
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Some guys playing Punch Out blindfolded in the that stream. http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda
xxjuicesxx
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Yes, Its now Infinity Challenge Dominion I believe although I think its not there...probably some glitch they didnt test (because they suck and are terrible and H4's playlist management is the worst out of any Halo game so far)
Sound design 101. Beautiful thing
Orochinagis
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No one is answering you because you just need to look harder
Oh wow this is just really funny because that's the only playlist that I am not allowed to play, thank you 343i.
The worst part is it seems to be the most active its been out of any Halo game so far. Their decisions are the worst though. RIP Slayer Pro.
Per Firestream's request, now making character reference images for Halo 4.
First one up, Master Chief
http://imgur.com/a/Ja0OE#0
Also, that Spartan gets stuck in the wall EVERY TIME. I think he was scripted to go off in that direction, and then someone added more cliff there without updating the movement mesh and he just runs into it :lol
First one up, Master Chief
http://imgur.com/a/Ja0OE#0
Also, that Spartan gets stuck in the wall EVERY TIME. I think he was scripted to go off in that direction, and then someone added more cliff there without updating the movement mesh and he just runs into it :lol
xxjuicesxx
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After this many games I just expect it to be really bad. I'm like defeated I just feel powerless it makes me not even want to play Halo. I know if I sign on I'm going to have to go into SWAT or else get destroyed in more team oriented playlist by teams while I get matched up with kids who are still trying to figure out how to aim and shoot. Oh I'd like to try FFA but Regicide is so Mario Kart AI it disgusts me to the point I will not contribute my number to that playlist ever.
Its fucking ridiculous we dont have a Mercenaries playlist. Its fucking ridiculous we dont have a classic settings playlist. Its fucking ridiculous theres not enough small maps to support a Doubles playlist.
Like who the fuck was in charge of anything while this game was being produced!?
Man I cant watch it from work the internet here is terrible. Is Swaggy Poppins still hogging the couch? Has YSG changed his shirt yet? I cant imagine the smell coming from that room.
YES, that happened waaaaay too fast. I really liked having three-way battles back in the second half of Forerunner, the fact that that's the only level with three-way battles is suck a mussed opportunity.
In addition to neural implants, UNSC personnel now have their entire skeletons fitted with transmitters, tracking chips, and USB ports.
Tha Robbertster
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Reagan's BR
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Just finished Dishonored. I played through killing everyone. The story was not great but engrossing enough to make me want revenge throughout the game hence my killing. I'll have to try playing through again with low chaos. I cannot believe that this game and Halo 4 were released in the same year. It is sad that 343 even with 5 years of dev time, a talented staff, and the financial backing of Microsoft were unable to deliver as good of a game.
Go play Dishonored. It is a fun game.
Go play Dishonored. It is a fun game.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
You mean Dead Sp... Trigger 2.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Comparing Halo to Dishonored doesn't make much sense.
Yes, it's a good game though.
Reagan's BR
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I'm just saying I hold devs to a higher standard of quality. Dishonored is a good game, Halo 4 is not.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Yeah, opinions and everything. I had a bunch of issues with Dishonored too. I enjoyed both equally.
Apples & oranges much?
Halo 4 is not a bad game, maybe not what you wanted, but it's not bad by any stretch of the imagination.
Lame
Reagan's BR
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Halo 4 is bad for a AAA. Halo 4 is buggy and unpolished.
I will have to try playing through again. I'm not sure how in the world to beat the flooded district with stealth though.
I killed a decent amount of guards when I ran out of sleep darts, but I was non lethal with all my targets.
I may do a completely non lethal run soon. That game was so good.
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