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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?
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Major Williams
Member
You would just be handicapping yourself. Rickenslacker posted a good, succinct defense of why it should stay away from Halo, a series about mobility and visibility in combat. Removing huge portions of usable screen space by zooming in on a weapon model, adding generally terrible depth of field effects, and slowing the player down to a crawl in sacrifice of a tiny zoom doesn't help the series or move it forward.
Halo's zoom functions are about giving more clarity and visibility to the player, not less. It's about allowing the player to maintain their agility and pull off tricky maneuvers while still being precise. It's just something that ADS makes more difficult, and in many cases, impossible.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Just finished listening to the podcast. You guys did a really good job!
RebornYeti
Member
I peed a little.
The one in orange
You make a mighty fine ad on a wall.
I guess I'm closed minded in this case, then, because I don't think ADS would add anything at all to Halo, and it would probably actually make it less fun. Nobody (okay, I'm just speaking for myself here) enjoys having to slow down to shoot people. Plus, you pretty much give the player tunnel vision because they're gonna be looking down the sights like 95% of the time they play.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
ADS slows the gameplay down and blocks off important parts of screen, destroying the fluidity and clarity Halo is based on.
It's Anti-Halo.
No thank you.
Because we need more reasons for Halo 4 to be Call of Halo: Space Warfare?
Portugeezer
Member
The slow down is worth it most of the time because you get better accuracy.
The thing I don't like about not having ADS with so many weapons (some have zoom which is good, though I am also not a fan of clicking RS to zoom but I put up with it) is that with a controller accuracy is harder, on Halo I have to have a lower sensitivity than I do in other games because I cannot get a slower more accurate aim (ADS) with many weapons.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Feels like Halo.
thezerofire
Banned
I guess the response to that is that Halo already allows you to zoom, it just does so without blocking your whole screen and slowing you down
Bigger!
I'm going to assume his daughter was responsible for Warhouse.
Hypertrooper
Member
You would cheat the force if you have ADS! WHY DO YOU NOT BELIEVE IN OBI WAN!
Ugh, don't be a dick.
Steelyuhas
Member
ADS in an arena shooter just doesn't make much sense. In an arena shooter, and especially in Halo, you are utilizing movement (jumping, strafing, still headed towards a destination or escape) while engaging in combat with others. ADS would discourage that.
It works well in military shooters were you for the most part, stop moving and aim your weapon in order to shoot opponents.
It works well in military shooters were you for the most part, stop moving and aim your weapon in order to shoot opponents.
I apologize to his daughter for suggesting she had any part in Warhouse's design. That's a terrible thing to insinuate.
SensitiveGAF
where's the damn like button on gaf. ugh! evilore!
LOL you die a lot in military shooters... don't you?
Bregmann Roche
Member
We better get some "Thank" buttons in the next update.
Deputy Moonman
Member
Same. What we've heard for the pistol so far is so depressingly bad it has to be an elaborate troll or misunderstanding. 6 shot kill? Bloom? 8 bullet clip? Just scrap it already at this point lol. Who is going to use it? Of course, I'm sure the AR is going to be turned into another
xxjuicesxx
Member
She can probably dong harder than anyone else at 343i. So it wouldn't be a terrible truth.
I also don't consider it a more modern mechanic in console FPS since it's basically a more immersive form of Goldeneye's aiming system (Hold L, stops you and you can aim more precisely at the cost of movement). But even Perfect Dark had leaning while in aim mode, which is something CoD still can't figure out on console last I checked (where the PC version of the CoD has lean), even though Rainbow Six 3 on OXbox had leaning.
But since Halo's an arena shooter you don't really need to cram ADS into it. I always get irritated when I play an FPS and you can just tell it's half ass ironsights are because CoD does it, even though they didn't understand WHY CoD has it.
Soooo, I came back to this model.
It's now baked down into a 8k tri model from a 2.6 million one, so this is pretty much the level of detail you will get in game.
Just put in the base texture layers to define the materials.
I think I like this color scheme more than the tan Halo 4 one.
I might do something with a white digital army camo for the lighter plastic materials.
like this:
Maybe...
When I finish, i'm probably going to slap this puppy into Halo 2 Vista in case you guys wanna use it, if I can get shaders and tags working correctly.
It's now baked down into a 8k tri model from a 2.6 million one, so this is pretty much the level of detail you will get in game.
Just put in the base texture layers to define the materials.
I think I like this color scheme more than the tan Halo 4 one.
I might do something with a white digital army camo for the lighter plastic materials.
like this:
Maybe...
When I finish, i'm probably going to slap this puppy into Halo 2 Vista in case you guys wanna use it, if I can get shaders and tags working correctly.
343's BR:
ElzarTheBam
Member
It may not be the only pistol in the game though.
Different pistols (secondary load out), different attributes perhaps?
Major Williams
Member
This is a great response. I agree with you in every aspect.
Well you turned around quickly.
I feel my rage from last night coming back.Pinnacle > this:
ElzarTheBam
Member
Reagan's BR
Banned
But you just...what????
Hypertrooper
Member
I heard Hell looks like this.Pinnacle > this:
Hat damn, someone finally fixed it!
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I saw this and said Oh. My. God. out loud. 343 and/or Bungie, I am disappoint.Pinnacle > this:
Aggrotek
Member
Nocage?
Uncaged gets uncaged
Pinnacle > this:
nah, i'm no fan of uncaged, but pinnacle is fucking awful in reach - maybe it always was. i think even the community maps in rotation are better then it. well, maybe not eden prime.
I wish people didn't have to put up with PC gaming in order to play Halo 2.
Aggrotek
Member
XBConnect? Still works right?
I wouldn't correlate a crappy port of a game to a failure of a platform.
On that note, anybody who gets the game with even a modest rig needs to force Vsync at the driver level, or else you'll run into insane stuttering.