PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Hold that thought OP,
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Harvard Study: Mainstream Media Acted as Trumps Mouthpiece, Clintons Foe
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GutsOfThor
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No shit.
At one point, didn't the dip shit running CNN say, "trump is bad for America but good for ratings"?
At one point, didn't the dip shit running CNN say, "trump is bad for America but good for ratings"?
Intheflorsh
Banned
I can see one country that wanted Trump. 🤔
crazy monkey
Banned
Agree with this part.
Baraka in the White House
2-Terms of Kombat
I don't think they quite wanted him to win. I think they - like most of America - was quite sure that he didn't stand a chance and so were willing to give him all the airtime he would suck up to boost ratings.
This is probably the most correct reading, from the point of view of actual (semi) serious journalists and editors. However, I'd imagine the executives at these media companies were perfectly happy for him to become president. Dipshits like Zucker, who are actually friends with Trump.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Not surprising and such bullshit.
There was that ceo that said covering Trump was bad for country but good for ratings.
This is the dangers of media as corporate profit seeking entity and not focused on education.
There was that ceo that said covering Trump was bad for country but good for ratings.
This is the dangers of media as corporate profit seeking entity and not focused on education.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
They wanted a "horse race". They wanted it to be close but since Trump was such a monster, they put all their time and effort into pumping him up and bringing Clinton down. It backfired on them and now we're all stuck in this hell.
Y'all responding to somebody that just said Trump is still better than Clinton. Not even worth the time. Either politics don't touch him, willfully ignorant, only cares about himself, or trolling, either way there is no discussion there to be had.
Trump definitely got a lot of free press and Clinton was dragged through the mud. The Press wanted Trump from a business perspective, and they are a business. Hell even now from a business perspective they benefit from President Trump. Even Trump calling CNN FAKE NEWS is advertising at the highest level.
Trump definitely got a lot of free press and Clinton was dragged through the mud. The Press wanted Trump from a business perspective, and they are a business. Hell even now from a business perspective they benefit from President Trump. Even Trump calling CNN FAKE NEWS is advertising at the highest level.
LegendofJoe
Member
The election coverage was the final straw for me. I haven't watched a second of cable news coverage in months. Good riddance, I hope they all go out of business.
FreedomFighter
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MeisaMcCaffrey
No, they tried to boost him up during the primaries so he could knock out other Republicans and some just used him for ratings. They tried very hard to stop him during the general, they absolutely hate him. The media might want ratings but most of them except Fox News actually prefer Democrats. Trump's xenophobic talk is extremely bad for business. More people means more ratings. Fox has their own dedicated base so they don't really care right now. This is just my interpretation of the media behaviour during the last election. I really doubt anyone wanted him to be the president.
sixteen-bit
Member
In the end it's a business.
plagiarize
Banned
We know all this, at least if we had our eyes open during the campaign. The question is, will they do it again.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
That's why I put that dumb fool on ignore.
That was the guy running CBS.
The media being driven by ratings rather than news has been a problem for a long time, and this is one awful side-effect of that.
The media also set the seeds for people to feel that things were so bad that they needed a change. That's something Trump exploited by playing on people's fear of crime even though crime rates were down. The more news media people consume the less informed they are about crime rates, with those who consume the most news being most likely to believe "crime rates are soaring".
The media also set the seeds for people to feel that things were so bad that they needed a change. That's something Trump exploited by playing on people's fear of crime even though crime rates were down. The more news media people consume the less informed they are about crime rates, with those who consume the most news being most likely to believe "crime rates are soaring".
GoldenEye 007
Member
I mean, this shouldn't be shocking. Even when Clinton talked policy or had it out there, it was rarely ever picked up. It was emails. For Trump, he was given unlimited airtime and discussion on everything.
The media exists to drum up ratings and confrontation - See: Jeff Zucker at CNN, who treats this as a sports situation. They were not interested in actual responsible policy debate and analysis. They wanted fireworks. Places like CNN were rewarded highly for it. Their ratings went through the roof and money poured in.
The discourse of the US electorate does not allow for responsible and measured policy debate. They want fights and excitement - along with the usual racism, etc.
The media exists to drum up ratings and confrontation - See: Jeff Zucker at CNN, who treats this as a sports situation. They were not interested in actual responsible policy debate and analysis. They wanted fireworks. Places like CNN were rewarded highly for it. Their ratings went through the roof and money poured in.
The discourse of the US electorate does not allow for responsible and measured policy debate. They want fights and excitement - along with the usual racism, etc.
It's not like they have somehow lost by Trump winning. Ratings for these networks/shows are probably up due to the constant turmoil.
GoldenEye 007
Member
Isn't MSNBC competing with Fox News now? Like some of their shows have overtaken Fox primetime. They were a non-factor just a year ago.
They love it. They might act like they're morally conscious amd concerned now that it's convenient to rally against a common foe, but at the end of the day they are thriving off the theatrics of our politicians. They're money grubbing assholes who don't stand for anything but their pockets, just like the rest of big business.
We knew about Clinton, we aren't idiots so the world's biggest election is covered quite well. And we almost all preferred her, it is why Trump only was preferred by one country.
Particle Physicist
between a quark and a baryon
CNN fucking hired people who were still part of Trump's campaign. It was insane.
I said this constantly throughout the election. Trump absolutely dominated headlines. It doesn't really matter if journalists are liberal or not: sensation, not sensibility, sells.
Every time I was in the gym, every TV was showing something about something Trump said. Any time they even MENTIONED Hillary it was in relation to something Trump said or something about her email scandal.
This is how Trump won the primaries as well, it was Trump city and every candidate was cast in the light of how he or she reacted to Trump, never the other way around.
Every time I was in the gym, every TV was showing something about something Trump said. Any time they even MENTIONED Hillary it was in relation to something Trump said or something about her email scandal.
This is how Trump won the primaries as well, it was Trump city and every candidate was cast in the light of how he or she reacted to Trump, never the other way around.
QuantumBro
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VendettaRed07
Member
He was xenophobic from day one. He was the same guy as he was early in the primary as he was in the GE.
You can't elevate someone to help them beat a crowded field in a primary then turn around and try and stop it. If someone wins a primary it's a coin flip on whether or not they can win because they'll be one of only two people who can become president at that point.
If they actually have any sort of ethical backbone, they won't boost someone crazy during a primary because everyone else is boring and it's good for ratings. It doesn't matter what they do after that, the damage will already be done
If the media continues to reward crazy candidates with extra coverage we will have a lot more Trump like presidents in the future.
This is the timeline CNN wants though. Aren't they cleaning Fox News' clock now in ratings?
TheOfficeMut
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Which is absolutely crazy since the rest of the world was able to see through his bullshit and recognize that Clinton was the vastly superior choice instead of, you know, the actual country he was running for president in.
It drives me maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
Of course they wouldn't know. Policy was never on the media's agenda as far as 24hr news networks were concerned, scandals and cage matches between pundits on both sides were. It just so happens that the shit Trump promised was scandalous in itself. Building a wall and making another country pay for it?? Extreme vetting? Stupid shit like that will get and fit on headlines way more than a 10 point plan to do anything at all will.
This kind of thinking is extremely toxic
Dragon Puncher
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If there's one thing Trump's good at it's bringing attention to himself. In that regard Clinton didn't stand a chance.
Of course, the guy is a carny at heart and knows how to play up to the cameras, and the media went along with it because everybody thought it was so funny and great for ratings to see such a high profile shit talker running for president, until he started being taken seriously and it stopped being a joke.
By then it was way too late and he had the platform amd the audience that he needed. Funny that he's at war with the media when they are a huge reason for why he's even in office in the first place.
By then it was way too late and he had the platform amd the audience that he needed. Funny that he's at war with the media when they are a huge reason for why he's even in office in the first place.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
She brought attention to herself just by merely existing. The republican propaganda machine was in full force for decades and ramped up during the primaries and election. To say that the media spotlight wasn't on her, whether it was by her doing or not, is disingenuous. She was covered for all the wrong and right reasons.
And_Gignac
Member
Clinton wasn't a victim of the media. C'mon.
The media coverage of Trump was mostly negative.
The "republican smear machine" is the biggest boogeyman there is.
The media coverage of Trump was mostly negative.
The "republican smear machine" is the biggest boogeyman there is.
All publicity is good publicity when it comes to elections.
Except when it involves emails.
Only after it was too late.
Before that it was "lol look at this goofy clown, good thing he'll never have a chance".
The media coverage of the emails bullshit helped solidify the image of Hillary as corrupt across the country and paved the way for Trump to waltz into the White House. Billions in free coverage for an orange piece of shit that should have been left to just fade away. Fuck the media.
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ryutaro's mama
Member
It's why I never quote that guy, no matter how outrageous his bait is.
I have him on lazy ignore.
fallengorn
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It's always nice to have confirmation but... Well, duh.
You can't be serious at this point.