Memnoch
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Has Sony ever said why the PS4 doesn't play CDs?
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CEJames
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even more – https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jun/29/sony-to-open-vinyl-pressing-factory-in-japan-records
CD + Vinyl – still about >30% of sales.
→ https://www.ft.com/content/94c5cdb0-4a26-11e7-a3f4-c742b9791d43
pixelation
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I miss being able to play CD's on my console of choice (along with a snazzy visualizer... say... what is keeping them from implementing a visualizer for MP3 music?).
Many don't have CD players either, to keep this response topical.
There are no licensing fees for audio CDs. Moreover, all patents related to standard audio CDs expired decades ago.
In short, there's no legal or licensing limitation here, just marketing vs. the [small] technology implementation cost.
Unknown Soldier
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So where's the CD support then? The evidence is that something is required which the PS4 doesn't have to play back CDs.
The point is largely moot anyways. All the soundtracks sold by Square Enix are on Blu-ray Music now.
You can play the game on the console though.
As a l33t I assume youre on valve amps & vinyl then.
Pancake Mix
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Every PS3 will rip your audio CD's to its HDD if you want and run PS1 CD-ROMs from disc. I know it's not a perfect solution, but you should be able to find a brand new PS3 Super Slim for not too much money, perhaps?
The bolded makes no sense...I assume you mean backwards compatible as in with PS2 games as well, as Sony never removed the PS1 backwards compatibility, it's in every PS3 model.
There's no PS1 hardware in a PS3, the physical backwards compatibility of PS1 games is all done via emulation, and it's a great feature.
I'm no expert but I think a DVD and CD use the same lasers at least, do they not?
The main issue is probably the CD licensing fee, not the disc drive's hardware. Sony obviously does not want to pay such a fee.
The bolded makes no sense...I assume you mean backwards compatible as in with PS2 games as well, as Sony never removed the PS1 backwards compatibility, it's in every PS3 model.
There's no PS1 hardware in a PS3, the physical backwards compatibility of PS1 games is all done via emulation, and it's a great feature.
I'm no expert but I think a DVD and CD use the same lasers at least, do they not?
The main issue is probably the CD licensing fee, not the disc drive's hardware. Sony obviously does not want to pay such a fee.
MaulerX
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That's a completely valid argument considering they support 4K UHD Blu-ray in 2017. Oh wait...
I agree that the PS3 was and still is a surprisingly great living room media computer. It even has a CD ripper. Most importantly though the PS4 and Xbox One don't even let you store media files on their hard drives. Only advantage the new consoles have is they can play MKVs.
Even seemingly trivial features take time and resources away from other work. Implementing playback is almost certainly straightforward. Documenting it, testing it, and rounding it out into a useful feature (CDDB support, ripping, the corresponding library management and playlists, playback in game, adding to the test requirements of every game that supports it, etc.) Or they can just realize that its going to be used by a tiny minority of their customers and bypass the whole issue.
Honestly, this criticism is just another way to say lazy developers the the usual lack of meaningful insight into what shipping a mass-market product looks like.
MP3 is lossy and has certain distortions at any bitrate. Another problem with lossy codecs is that most encoders do not reduce the input level before encoding, which can overload the codec and cause further distortions.
If you know what to listen out for, it's absolutely possible to pass blind listening tests comparing 320k MP3 against lossless CD-quality audio.
Basically anything telling you that MP3 or AAC is indistinguishable from CD is marketing sourced from someone trying to sell it to you.
"High resolution audio" vs CD-quality audio is another matter entirely.
The only time you will have statistically significant results is when the test was not set up correctly.
High resolution formats matter for audio production, but not distribution. Audiophiles seem to think that studios are holding something back from them, rather than understanding the reasons why you would use higher bit-depths and sample rates for capture and production than distribution.
There is maybe a case to be made for 24-bit audio files rather than 16-bit in certain audio setups, but there's no need for high sample rates or formats like DSD.
OfTheOverflow
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MP3s? Sounds like YOU need to get with the time my friend. MP3 is dead.
Speak for yourself, I still buy CDs and would love to have it work on my PS4.
Maybe I'm weird but I still buy CDs when the option is there. I don't purchase a ton of music, though. But if the CD album is the same price as iTunes, why not get the physical product and make your own mp3s? I am a collector though, so I enjoy having books/games/music on shelves.
If the PS3 did it, I'm surprised the PS4 doesn't. I've never tried but the option would be nice.
If the PS3 did it, I'm surprised the PS4 doesn't. I've never tried but the option would be nice.
To each his own. I couldn't give a crap about Mp3s but I would buy any good OST on CD.
pixelation
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Lol is this copypasta
FlutterPuffs
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For fun I checked the first CD album release date, and VHS tape.
On October 1 1982, Joel's sixth studio album, 52nd Street, was the first commercially released CD album. Which was 35 years ago.
The first theatrical film ever released to the public on VHS was the South Korean drama, The Young Teacher, in 1976. Which was 41 years ago.
nkarafo
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Does it play DVDs?
I've never seen a device capable of playing DVDs that can't play CDs.
Spyder_Monkey
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CDs are a relic. Should've had a built it built in record player instead.
cookie-monster
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jeff_rigby would have loved this topic :'(
You can't handle the truth eh?
People shitting on CDs are incredibly ignorant. CDs present the greatest combination of audio quality and durability ever offered in a consumer audio format. Ripping your library to MP3 is fine (I have done this too), but unless your library is stored in some kind of redundant array, it is at risk of data degredation or outright loss due to hardware failure. Holding onto those CDs is a great option for backup, portability and is also a legal requirement for enjoying your ripped digital collection.
Spyder_Monkey
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He will not be missed.
chronic_archaic
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Yeah, if it reads DVDs fine then the only reason it doesn't work with CDs is Sony won't take a few days to make an app to play them back. Really is kind of bullshit even if you don't care about it. It's the only DVD player I know of that won't play CDs, just really damn strange.
SoulFinger74
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The fact that this is an unrecognizable disc in my PS4 is absurd. If the CD is such a dead technology, this should've been a download code. I recognize that it isn't a first-party product (and perhaps CD Project RED simply has a soft spot for the medium), but still ...
Because I changed my own battery, and the brief power loss tripped the DRM in my tape deck, declaring my tape deck "potentially stolen" and locking it up, requiring me to go into the dealership and pay $50 for them to one-time unlock my tape deck?
Because that's why my car's stereo receiver now plays CDs, and MP3/FLAC through USB memory sticks or my Android phone, but it can no longer play cassette tapes.
Augemitbutter
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most of these people don't even remember what they wrote 5 minutes ago. it's do whatever and forget. nothing is worth keeping. get with the times. what kind of topic is this anyway? gotta post fast.
Always-honest
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Yeah it was known. But it still sucks.
Team Andromeda
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Maybe a better question is why would anyone want to play a CD on ones PS4?.
almostjuliuscaesar
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it can. but rather than turn on the software emulation, they decided to go with the up-res & trophy support that they can sell again. shitty business decision. b/c they can easily do both, same with ps2 classics. ppl have asked for both PS2/PS1 classics repeatedly, because there's more support there as it's just porting the ROMs to work on the software emulation. but it's also not a priority for them whereas the re-releases are. hence why we got FFVII & FFIX.
Because the PS4 is hooked up to the living room TV, which is hooked up to the stereo, and (due to the infrequent need to play CDs) the PS4 has the only optical drive currently hooked up to that TV/stereo?
SlickShoes
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Laughing at how many music enthusiasts here are playing their music collection through their console and TV. What a terrible way to listen to music.
Ok. So you can rip all your CDs to a hard drive and play then all from your PS4 without ever having to change disk, or remove the CD to play a game. You have options.
Xbox One works. You have to download the CD Player app (free) first.
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