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[old manatee]

Hmm, I'm still not sure that it's productive to call them "hate" groups. Just seems to me that blocks any chance of a productive dialogue if we want to welcome them into 2015 with the rest of us.

Yeah let's coddle the hate groups.

Bunch of adults bullying an innocent child for being different. They should have their voting rights taken away.

 

[ehretreue.m.h]

Hate must be a family value to these people.

 

[Suikoguy]

Holy crap did we pile on EmSeta!

Lots of people are frustrated about these types of groups, I don't think anyone meant to pile on like that, lol.

I see your original point, but the SPLC does not take their classification lightly.

 

[KDR_11k]

What's the theological foundation anyway on which they base their discrimination against transgender people? Only this "god created a man and a woman" stuff?

I think the Bible only says men shouldn't have long hair (when researchers tried to reconstruct what Jesus looked like that was the only clue they found, so he likely had short hair and was of course a Hebrew).

 

[excelsiorlef]

Holy crap did we pile on EmSeta!

Lots of people are frustrated about these types of groups, I don't think anyone meant to pile on like that, lol.

I see your original point, but the SPLC does not take their classification lightly.

What pile on? EmSeta made a statement, folks disagreed, provided sources, EmSeta then doubled down on statement even after proof was given and thus created a new line of discussion (that being we should be nicer to hate groups because apparently if we just do that they'll stop being hate groups)

That's not a pile on that's a bloody discussion

 

[Suikoguy]

What pile on? EmSeta made a statement, folks disagreed, provided sources, EmSeta then doubled down on statement even after proof was given and thus created a new line of discussion (that being we should be nicer to hate groups because apparently if we just do that they'll stop being hate groups)

That's not a pile on that's a bloody discussion

Had like 6 people post all at once, an unintentional pile on.

Can be intimidating, even though it's not intended to be.

 

[Alchemy]

Hate must be a family value to these people.

Now you're thinking like a conservative!

 

[Wilsongt]

Liberty Council. A hate group and a group of liars if Kim Davis' lawyer is anything to go by.

 

[eu pfhor ia]

And yet liberal minorities are the ones killing free speech and exchange of ideas by demanding "safe spaces." The whiniest groups about ideas that challenge their world view are -always- sheltered right wingers.

Sorry to snipe at this one point here, but are you saying if I'm not 100% on board with the "safe spaces at college" thing I'm a "sheltered right winger?"

 

[Principate]

I think the Bible only says men shouldn't have long hair (when researchers tried to reconstruct what Jesus looked like that was the only clue they found, so he likely had short hair and was of course a Hebrew).

No it doesn't there's an entire group of people called Nazerites, who had a covenant with god which included not cutting your hair. Might as well say the Bible said had issues with Samson being a guy.

 

[Link]

Okay, okay, they do seem pretty kooky.
Or rather, really crazy.

So we're gonna use the "mental illness" excuse even here, huh?

 

[excelsiorlef]

Had like 6 people post all at once, an unintentional pile on.

Can be intimidating, even though it's not intended to be.

None of it was aggressive. Hell most of it was all of a here's a link. Nature of a discussion forum.

Calling it a pile on makes him sound like a victim of some sort. He ain't.

 

[EmSeta]

Yeah let's coddle the hate groups.

Bunch of adults bullying an innocent child for being different. They should have their voting rights taken away.

I can't tell if this is a joke. Voting rights taken away?

Are we really going sink to their level of stupidity here?

 

[Tinfoilhatsron]

For some reason the "no safe spaces for anyone" and "free speech"-yellers never show up in such cases. I wonder why that is?

Because this isn't about free speech? Don't even know what you're talking about.

This is like the third one of these stories I've heard lately that started with the school sending out a letter warning parents that they are going to read a book that deals with LGBT issues, then immediately backing down when some hatemonger fuckwits throw a fuss. Why do they warn people about this stuff in the first place? The school just put that kid on blast to the entire community and then didn't bother to have their back. I'd fucking sue if if they pulled that shit with my kid.

Exactly. The school couldn't even go through with it. What a bunch of cowards.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Because this isn't about free speech? Don't even know what you're talking about

In the context of how it was used to shame trans activists and support Germain Greer how is it not?