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Heroes of the Storm |OT3| Chromiehounds
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Idk.
I feel like there is a disparity in EU/NA and I'm not sure if it has to do with MMR or what. Proto and I have been trying Jaina + Ana and just getting shitty comps. Whereas in EU it was giving us halfway decent comps to where I wouldn't be getting dove to death 3+ times. The players in EU will actively ignore objectives and soak to constantly fight. That still happens sometimes in NA, but to a much lesser extent.
And as I said, not sure if it has to do with the MMR.
I feel like there is a disparity in EU/NA and I'm not sure if it has to do with MMR or what. Proto and I have been trying Jaina + Ana and just getting shitty comps. Whereas in EU it was giving us halfway decent comps to where I wouldn't be getting dove to death 3+ times. The players in EU will actively ignore objectives and soak to constantly fight. That still happens sometimes in NA, but to a much lesser extent.
And as I said, not sure if it has to do with the MMR.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
the latter part has a ton to do with mmr.
i was gonna say queuing as jo gave me great comps but alur covered that.
i was gonna say queuing as jo gave me great comps but alur covered that.
Part of the stomping had to do with MMR I would assume. You're really a 2800-3k player playing at 1900-2300. Not to mention you're also probably playing sub account level 100 people too in those games, right? At least most of mine had that. Them ignoring the game to team fight pretty much confirms it I think.
Nah, hardly saw any less than 100. Even saw a few 1000+. I'd assume that has to do with Rhak and Pre being 400+.
Rhak is like 2300 in QM and Pre was 2400. I think mine ranges from 25-29. I wish Blizz would come out with official MMRs. Hotslogs has been varying so much with the resets and stuff. I'm somehow Master 200 something (2900 mmr) in Unranked.
Rhak is like 2300 in QM and Pre was 2400. I think mine ranges from 25-29. I wish Blizz would come out with official MMRs. Hotslogs has been varying so much with the resets and stuff. I'm somehow Master 200 something (2900 mmr) in Unranked.
You're not seeing an equal account level person to your level 10 or whatever on the other side? I've never played a smurf game without that happening.
Kio and I just had the worst 4 or 5 games in existence. If it wasn't for throwing it was just outright done from level 1. Full CC blowup comps vs comps with none, push comps vs those with no wave clear, you name it. Good times.
Kio and I just had the worst 4 or 5 games in existence. If it wasn't for throwing it was just outright done from level 1. Full CC blowup comps vs comps with none, push comps vs those with no wave clear, you name it. Good times.
Yeah I grouped with them two or three separate times and had it happen. Sometimes the person would be like level 90 or something, but they were always way lower than everyone else. Every time I have it has been for a very small amount of games, though, and at least once was on a different account. Maybe you've played enough by now where it has some semblance of an MMR for you. It didn't even have 5-6 games total on me any of those times.
Zero idea why I am getting this much disparity in MMR. Is it because I'm playing a healer?
I typically have no issues dealing with a CG on a 3 lane map. Usually dominate, even. Well this game was not the case. As soon as we get into the match Valla starts spouting off about how Li-Ming is toxic and only farms damage. Well, guess what? It was true!
Zeeb goes top, dies to Malth then decides to come mid before I ping the fuck out of bot. Valla quits early on, meanwhile we have 4 mid fighting 3 of them while we lose soak and the fight because people want to farm damage. What a waste of time.
QM comps have become increasingly worse. They really need to change up the formula somehow. I get it's "quick match" but there has to be something implemented to where you're not getting fucked 60%+ of the time. I really wish they'd cut out the draft bullshit and just give us a somewhat decent comp every time with a tank, healer, X, X, X. No more than 1 spec on every time, etc.
I typically have no issues dealing with a CG on a 3 lane map. Usually dominate, even. Well this game was not the case. As soon as we get into the match Valla starts spouting off about how Li-Ming is toxic and only farms damage. Well, guess what? It was true!
Zeeb goes top, dies to Malth then decides to come mid before I ping the fuck out of bot. Valla quits early on, meanwhile we have 4 mid fighting 3 of them while we lose soak and the fight because people want to farm damage. What a waste of time.
QM comps have become increasingly worse. They really need to change up the formula somehow. I get it's "quick match" but there has to be something implemented to where you're not getting fucked 60%+ of the time. I really wish they'd cut out the draft bullshit and just give us a somewhat decent comp every time with a tank, healer, X, X, X. No more than 1 spec on every time, etc.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I kinda miss sylvanas, can she only be OP or thrash and nothing inbetween?
I have a ~60% winrate with Sylv and a lot of games, Familie, and it feels like that for me when playing her or having her in a game. Really seems to depend on the team around her. Puts out a ton of damage but it's all just numbers so she needs follow up, can't really push alone in this meta, and with heroes like Garrosh and Artanis so common in QM it's really hard to even use your disables properly behind an objective pusher like Punisher or Immortal cause you can still get flipped over the wall. I think she's fine, but definitely a bit frustrating.
And Milly, I had the same kind of disparity right after the season reset. I think I may have posted about it in here. I was alvl 1000+ and having no one above 300 in my games for like 3 straight days with MMR gaps of 600-700 from highest to lowest at times. I was just blind queuing Azmodan so it stomped the lowbies 70% of the time anyway, but if I played something else it was a rough ride. I've noticed when I queue with Kioshen the MMR disparity isn't as bad as when I queue solo.
And Milly, I had the same kind of disparity right after the season reset. I think I may have posted about it in here. I was alvl 1000+ and having no one above 300 in my games for like 3 straight days with MMR gaps of 600-700 from highest to lowest at times. I was just blind queuing Azmodan so it stomped the lowbies 70% of the time anyway, but if I played something else it was a rough ride. I've noticed when I queue with Kioshen the MMR disparity isn't as bad as when I queue solo.
Finally did my first ranked placement game today, hoping it's settled down a bit since the season roll over. First picked Valla on BoE, then got flamed for saying I was going Q build when someone asked, "gg it's already over you gold scrub". Not sure if it continued in game since I have chat off, but the guy actually played well and I didn't die at all, we owned hard. Some people.
New map seems like a winner, though I've only ran into it once in a dozen or so games already. Played Rexxar which seems like a good map for my favorite bear!
New map seems like a winner, though I've only ran into it once in a dozen or so games already. Played Rexxar which seems like a good map for my favorite bear!
scoobs
Member
Bottom 15 win rate now, below Raynor. Feeeeeelsbad
Orochinagis
Member
And súper tanky
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
wasn't his winrate always mediocre?
scoobs
Member
Dehaka? Nooooo, he was always above 50% before this nerf.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
they also nerfed his auto attacks slightly but that might have slowed his waveclear way down if it required another hit per minion as a result
scoobs
Member
Damage nerfs to AA and Dark Swarm.
jaundicejuice
Member
Can't decide if having a skillshot healer is the most amazing or frustrating thing, often it's a pretty fair split of both in a given match.
Alpha Centauri
Member
It's hella frustrating. You have to be predictable to help her land shots. Which means you're predictable for the enemy as well.
TBH she kinda sucks in this iteration. Even in a double heal situation, why would i choose Ana over Brightwing? BW has similar damage output, has a global, can talent into more mobility, and BW's CC is point and click.
She is fun to play atleast, but not really viable IMO
scoobs
Member
Cuz Nano Boost
I might not survive that long. I would have strangled a cute bunny with glacial efficiency after those 4 games yesterday.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
what was the last hero released by blizz that didn't end up viable? at this point I have a lot of trust in the abilities of their balance team.
edit: the answer is probius in march.
edit: the answer is probius in march.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Outdamaging KT, KTZ and Jaina as Artanis lol
Edit: is artanis OP in QM I'm 2 out of 2 games stomping with him and getting MVP. I wasn't even a good artanis before. He does feel a bit like a tanky Zeratul though and that's my most played hero.
Edit: is artanis OP in QM I'm 2 out of 2 games stomping with him and getting MVP. I wasn't even a good artanis before. He does feel a bit like a tanky Zeratul though and that's my most played hero.
I can't find any proof to back up this claim... Kappa
FWIW there was this guy let's say his name was "Rula" and about a month and a half or two ago he ventured to the kid's end of the pool
P, sorry I had to) and we had some good games. In this hypothetical scenario, a guy named Rankahr said "you should come play kid's end of the pool more often" and the Rula guy said let me know what time you guys play or when you want to play and maybe I can. He kept checking his DM's but nothing.That my friends is the story of when the EU boyz swiped right on Alur and then never set up a date. I didn't sleep for days, Rhaknar. DAYS!
all Kappa locks
Kio will never leave the salt behind. To be fair I did call our last team we played with mouthbreathers after the game yesterday, though the Tracer and Varian certainly deserved it. Called me "the worst kind of person" for asking relatively politely why we didn't follow up for an easy kill 3v2...and this is the same game our Varian picked Twin Blades. Was such fun m8s great game never have a bad time in HOTS
FWIW there was this guy let's say his name was "Rula" and about a month and a half or two ago he ventured to the kid's end of the pool
That my friends is the story of when the EU boyz swiped right on Alur and then never set up a date. I didn't sleep for days, Rhaknar. DAYS!all Kappa locks
that time you showed up? thats the same fucking time, always.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Doesn't the blizzard messenger app solve that problem? Don't have to log in on a pc anymore to chat.
Here in the NA we don't play at the same time every day on a schedule m8 so how am I supposed to know what you do without you saying
neither do we, its roughly around the same time. You never show up at any time anyway so dunno why you whining. Besides, from what I hear, you dont even play this game anymore, EU or US.
Damn, why so snark? You never could take any ribbing but this is a new level of defensive breh.
Any time I've checked EU no one has been on and once or twice you've been in a game and I've whispered you and you never responded. I would hardly call that "never show up". I'm not saying I check it daily, but at least once or twice a week just to see who is around.
As for not playing, I dunno where you got that. I have been playing. I don't play every day now, but I usually do enough to keep my dailies cleared barring this past weekend when I was gone (and gone from here too). No one here would know whether I've been playing or not because I was cast out of the main NA group over a level 4 death in a Haunted Mines game months ago.
Any time I've checked EU no one has been on and once or twice you've been in a game and I've whispered you and you never responded. I would hardly call that "never show up". I'm not saying I check it daily, but at least once or twice a week just to see who is around.
As for not playing, I dunno where you got that. I have been playing. I don't play every day now, but I usually do enough to keep my dailies cleared barring this past weekend when I was gone (and gone from here too). No one here would know whether I've been playing or not because I was cast out of the main NA group over a level 4 death in a Haunted Mines game months ago.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
It's like big brother in here at times, or is it survivor?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
You americans are supposed to know this stuff