sixteen-bit
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LB2 gotta be the best looking gen 4 game of all time
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HEY! C'MON C'MON: It's the Giga Powered Neo Geo Appreciation Thread
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IrishNinja
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it's one of my favorites, personally. Chac's a good dude, hope to finally meet 'em one day.
Yeah, saw it for a decent price and I couldn't resist even though it's still extremely expensive.
For me, it was either Metal Slug X or 3, but X costs a great deal more than 3.
1 and 2 are pretty much out of my reach at this point.
Metal Slug 1 and 2?
I need Mutation Nation, Sengoku 2 and 3 (is 1 worth it) and Magician Lord at some point. Robo-Army looks really cool...but seems a little too simple for a beat em up?
Yeah. A genuine copy of MS1 at this point is pretty much impossible to get on AES, especially if it's the English version.
Metal Slug 2 is easier to find, but still obscenely priced.
I can only comment on Sengoku 3 since I own it, but I highly recommend it.
Oh yeah, was in the mind of MVS, but AES is bananas to get stuff for i'm sure.
Unfortunately the general price hike in the last year for retrogaming stuff hit Neo Geo CD too.
To note that Magician Lord was a failure in the arcades but a (relative) hit at home (allegedly it was the best selling cart of the first wave).
Of course in 1994 , when the Neo Geo CD launched, the popular games were others such as Samurai Shodown 2 or King of Fighters '95.
The early games had limited print run (some weren't even converted for NGCD).
I've got Magician Lord for around 30 euro a year and half ago but I see the prices on ebay doubled in the meantime.
The game on NGCD runs good. It loads just once at the boot up then it's identical to the AES version (but with different lives/restore system and a short intro).
No arranged OST though.
I just got mutation nation on MVS, its very basic but a lot of fun. The art and personality makes the game feel very unique. I have Sengoku 1, its ok, on mvs it only cost like 30 bucks so it was worth it.
Ban Puncher
Member
Welp, I finally bought it. Guess I'll be skipping quite a few games this year lol.
Welcome to the club.
Now buy MS1 AES.
I paid 80 for LR and 80 for BS last year. That was forum prices not ebay. LR seems more rare out of the two, I dont see it nearly as often. Pulstar is really hard to find, I think the last one I tried to buy (got beat by 1 min) was like 160.
StarCreator
Member
I think there are very few reasons to choose AES over MVS. (Leading to the next point, lower rate of bootlegging is one reason...)
Bootlegging is fairly rampant in the Neo-Geo world, but the 100-in-1 carts take that to a whole new level. The quality of the games on said carts tends to be a bit iffy too; some of them use weird builds you'd only find elsewhere in early MAME ROM collections that have glitches you'd never see on production carts. Someone put in a 100-in-1 cart in a candy cab at MAGFest one year and people were complaining about Mark of the Wolves not behaving correctly on it.
sixteen-bit
Member
also none of those multicarts as far as i know have windjammers
why bother
why bother
Collecting is the only reason to get AES carts, but there were a couple guys making really nice display boxes for MVS carts too that I'm sure have just gotten better with time. A guy named big bear used to make some called shock boxes, I don't know if he's still around, but they made a great substitute when I gave up on AES.
sixteen-bit
Member
Yeah, the only reason why I'm still at it is because I started about 6 years ago and yeah, not in a hurry to get all the games I want. Just going to wait and pounce when a decent deal comes up.
Lol, considering the going rate for MS1 and rampant bootlegging with MS 1 and 2, I think I'll pass lol.
Bar81
Member
You realize MS3 is the subject of similar bootlegging. Unless you know how to confirm authenticity it's likely that you bought a bootleg.
IrishNinja
Member
say whaaaat
get it together, bootleggers
There's a new case out now apparently that can house either AES or MVS carts.
sharp! i mean, it's no UGC but you know, i'd cop
Yea but MS3 is way less rare than MS1 or 2. For all intents and purposes, legit copies of MS1 might as well not even exist in AES format.
If anyone wants to grab the regular "Kraut Buster" for AES, it's up for preorder now. Yes, it will release in late 2016, but on the other hand, new Neo stuff!! Yay! 
http://www.ngdevdirect.com
http://www.ngdevdirect.com
Yeah, fhis is a major sorrow of mine. I missed the boat for 350 just a couple of years ago and now I don't know if I will ever be able to afford it.
It's one of the few Neo fighters I'm still missing.
I did all the checks and besides, whilst bootlegs for MS3 exists, it's nowhere near the extent of MS1 and 2 due to the difference in value and rarity.
Do NOT get the NGCD if you are interested in the Fighting VS games.
The system isn't suitable for them (ironically).
Ban Puncher
Member
I have X and 3 and played BOOT OR NO BOOT and won.
No boots allowed in my home.
MS1 is too expensive and there are so many bootlegged versions it has scared me off picking one up, even in Japan.
No real point in owning both 2 and X.
No boots allowed in my home.
MS1 is too expensive and there are so many bootlegged versions it has scared me off picking one up, even in Japan.
No real point in owning both 2 and X.
sixteen-bit
Member
Speaking of NGCD load times, would something like Dreamcast's DCEMU SD reader fix that (assuming it existed for NGCD)?
I've heard with DCEMU itis noticeably faster although I never tried it.
sixteen-bit
Member
Much, much worse in my experience, but comparing apples to apples if a title was on both platforms the PS1 ver had way less animation than the NGCD one (KOF95 and the like).
From what I've seen, very few games are superior on NGCD.
One of the noticeable ones I recall are superior on CD is Neo Turf Masters due to the extra course.
Generally, besides the early games, it's best to avoid the later fighting games.
I'd go so far and say the Saturn was a much better buy at the time when it came to affordable Neo Geo stuff, but the system misses out on the lesser known titles.
One of the noticeable ones I recall are superior on CD is Neo Turf Masters due to the extra course.
Generally, besides the early games, it's best to avoid the later fighting games.
I'd go so far and say the Saturn was a much better buy at the time when it came to affordable Neo Geo stuff, but the system misses out on the lesser known titles.
Depend on a per game basis.
However just think this:
NGCD has 7MB of RAM (a huge amount for the time) that need to be loaded using a 1x drive (and from what I understand content cannot be streamed on the fly into the RAM).
NGCD is a fine machine if you don't care much for Fighting Vs. games and are interested more about the early NG games.
It's a hard console to collect for because the user need to know beforehand if the loading times ruin a game or not while for other consoles most of the times you just need to know if you will enjoy the game.
I suggest to avoid Fighting Vs games on NGCD regardless on when they were relased or if you really want to play one and have patience to get one of the followers:
World Heroes Perfect, Fatal Fury Special, Samurai Shodown 2, Art of Fighting 2.
Saturn also missed the 1993-1994 wave since they started from 1995 to port them to Saturn.
Stuff like King of Fighters '94, Samurai Shodown 2, Art of Fighting 2 & 3 (well OK, AoF 2 & 3 could be considered "lesser known" which is a shame) .
WHAT?! OH GOD-
*rushes to eBay*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNK-Neo-Geo...982637?hash=item35f3594d2d:g:XnUAAOSwNgxWDw3n
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I believe Samsho 2 came out on PSone as collection which included the both Samsho 1 and 2, a pity it never got a Saturn release.
Yeah, the prices on ebay are ridiculous. The price the person wants is on AES territory.
It's not the only copy either! There's another one for the same BIN!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SNK-Neo-Geo...982637?hash=item35f3594d2d:g:XnUAAOSwNgxWDw3n
Looks like this one actually sold for $300:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Neo-Turf-Ma...636860?hash=item21001a2f7c:g:O5wAAOSwPcVVv7aW
The soundtrack on the NGCD version is even better than the original too. They really went all out with that release. I sometimes listen to it on youtube:
https://youtu.be/zBdkVYLHWiY?list=PL45AA71B267E3120B
Nothing else screams "Japanese video game soundtrack" quite like that game. I at least still feel lucky to own the game on MVS at least... it's one of my very few Neo Geo items.
StarCreator
Member
Is there a reliable method of checking for a boot? I should probably open up my MS3 anyway considering I've never gotten it to play correctly - either glitched graphics and working sound or working graphics and no sound .-.
I think you just open it up and check the boards. Non-scratched out serials from a reliable seller is also a good sign I think if you're going the MVS route.
Yeah, $300 sounds a bit more reasonable.
I'm considering getting a converter and the MVS cart for Neo Turf. I play the game on the SNK arcade classics collection on PS2, but the controls feels off.
Yeah, I love the OST, my favorite track is the Japanese course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsS41sxaAZ0&list=PL45AA71B267E3120B&index=2
Neo Turfmasters is my most played Neo Geo game, by far. It simply never gets old.
So I found something interesting recently:
It's an old hospital table on wheels! Perfect size for my sticks and at least one glass of whisky. Height adjustable too... seems really solid sitting / standing at any level.
So I found something interesting recently:
It's an old hospital table on wheels! Perfect size for my sticks and at least one glass of whisky. Height adjustable too... seems really solid sitting / standing at any level.
sixteen-bit
Member
Well hot dog, I just noticed the NG thread is still in gaming.
Every other thread is just a weenie.
Every other thread is just a weenie.
Maybe not very videogame-y but I rise you this beauty:
https://youtu.be/NQOLMLtlPv8?t=1m43s
Neo Geo was so far ahead (early '91).
If they removed it from Gaming, the very concept of "Video Games" would implode and there would be nothing left but the void.