Yeah, he really hates how modern games have devolved. He's really a voice for a lot of us regarding the state of modern games today. I forget if it was for 2011 or 2010 but I remember someone asked him what his game of the year was, and his answer was "none". It was hilarious.
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Hideki Kamiya shits all over Kotaku
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Yeah, he really hates how modern games have devolved. He's really a voice for a lot of us regarding the state of modern games today. I forget if it was for 2011 or 2010 but I remember someone asked him what his game of the year was, and his answer was "none". It was hilarious.
ThatsMytrunks
Member
There's such extreme extrapolation in the Kotaku Article based on Kamiya's two tweets that it's hard to understand the reason that they're used at all.
I wouldn't say everything on Kotaku is shit, but there are some golden moments where they have no idea what the fuck they're doing. There's plenty of times that they post quality material, though.
Seems to me like the real story is that Richard Eisenbeis needs to take a step back and figure out whether or not this is the right job for him if he's going to try to pull controversy out of thin air.
Not to mention the most ridiculous thing of this all: His article was meant to get a rise out of gamers against japanese developer incompetency, and in turn it made american games journalism a fucking joke.
I wouldn't say everything on Kotaku is shit, but there are some golden moments where they have no idea what the fuck they're doing. There's plenty of times that they post quality material, though.
Seems to me like the real story is that Richard Eisenbeis needs to take a step back and figure out whether or not this is the right job for him if he's going to try to pull controversy out of thin air.
Not to mention the most ridiculous thing of this all: His article was meant to get a rise out of gamers against japanese developer incompetency, and in turn it made american games journalism a fucking joke.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Instead of expressing an undecated, arrogant and with no respect opinion to one of his fellow developers in public and then told people to choke on his dick. Kamiya uses strong langauge at people that is trolling him and he, basically, dosn't care.
Obviously I think he should calm off, but I think is quite a different situations...
Riposte
Member
I don't get it, why is he acting so rude to me? I only called him a pussy...
meltingparappa
Member
They should come with a ticker tape peripheral that just prints out his tweets like stock quotes.
Seriously hilarious. Guy should get his own sitcom, too.
el retorno
Member
These kind of stories are as old as humans. Its gossip. Its fun.
Yeah that was pretty blatantly trying to hide it, as if no one on the internet could translate that immediately.
Riposte said:
So what he said in return was alright? He didn't call the guy an asshole, he threw an inappropriate comment out there. You don't get to say the N word to a black guy just cause he called you a dick or something.
gamers have nothing better to do because social media is so widespread and games are worse than ever
blame space
Banned
why is kotaku a thing?
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
What?
Keep in perspective that "pussy" post was in response to Kamiya responding to numerous messages with a similar phrase in Japanese.
He called him out on that, so Kamiya restated it in English.
I think his anger at the article is justified, but his method of coping by insulting his followers isn't on any level.
I don't think any less of him for it. He's human just like me.
but jesus christ people defending and even praising this need to get a fucking grip.
It's funny. That's about it.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
everything pisses off kamiya
Riposte
Member
Or maybe he wasn't really trying to hide it. Hence "
".If he said anything near equivalent to that, then we can have that discussion.
It's no different than saying something racist and then only saying "BUT I ONLY SAID SOME!". That's not a valid defense.
Because all of the other tweets he made that were posted in this thread sure weren't blunt and transparent or anything.
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Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
No clue.
but Kamiya is a creator I have alot of respect for
so this has my attention because of that alone.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
If anything you should feel comforted due to the fact that almost all, if not all, GAF members agree here that Kotaku's decision to create that "well-polished article" (their word not mine) based on just a single and inoffensive tweet was idiotic and stupid.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Because this is the age we live in now.
That's it. Lots of journalists, and Kotaku very often so, write about Japan like they're making some sort of Nat Geo Wild documentary.
EmCeeGramr
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It's also worth noting that the majority of people who follow Kamiya have kind of built up this mutual relationship of understanding regarding his tweets. Most people follow him or ask him questions just to see an irate response, and I think he understands that pretty well.
It's like walking into a foul-mouthed comedian's show, hearing him say something about "all you dumb fuckers in the audience," and then gasping and going "Oh my God... did you hear what he called me..."
It's like walking into a foul-mouthed comedian's show, hearing him say something about "all you dumb fuckers in the audience," and then gasping and going "Oh my God... did you hear what he called me..."
meh I find both Kamiya and Kotaku to be unprofessional and shitty. Honestly have no idea why people find this guy entertaining. All he does is say a few words like 'shit, idiot, go home' etc and some are like omg man you so cool
Not saying such words are beyond a dev or anything lol but there should be a certain level of maturity to go along with it.
Not saying such words are beyond a dev or anything lol but there should be a certain level of maturity to go along with it.
SatelliteOfLove
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Hideki "Leader of ALL JAPAN" Kamiya has spoken!
Seriously, big shit was blowing up all over today, and they have to manufacture clickbait headlines and mistranslate/misrepresent a storied interviewee in the process?
Doritosgate: It didn't stop with PS3 hashtags!
Seriously, big shit was blowing up all over today, and they have to manufacture clickbait headlines and mistranslate/misrepresent a storied interviewee in the process?
Doritosgate: It didn't stop with PS3 hashtags!
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Notorious ppl from any form of entertainment should just close their facebook/twitter accounts. It was nice to feel these ppl were closer to us and we could speak with them and exchange opinions, something that couldn't happened before, but obviously is evolving in something rather ugly.
Jake Tower
Banned
I think this is all pretty funny, but on the general Oriental use of 'foreigner,' I think there is definitely some loaded derogatory meaning behind it, like the old western word for 'foreigner' barbarian, or the historically more recent specifically for the Japanese, 'Jap.' Just as these are unacceptable in modern discourse, 'gaijin' and the like ought to go.
Discussions about what gaijin means! It's like a Friday night at the gaijin bar with all those Asian studies majors telling you their take!
I like the author of the article, especially his import impressions, and think he's a decent dude.
This article he wrote is a normal fluff piece article about gaming in Japan, with a really shitty tie in to Kamiya. I hope he learned that doing that is not cool.
As for Kamiya, seems annoying, but it's his twitter and he can do what he likes.
I don't hate Kotaku as much as most it would appear.
I like the author of the article, especially his import impressions, and think he's a decent dude.
This article he wrote is a normal fluff piece article about gaming in Japan, with a really shitty tie in to Kamiya. I hope he learned that doing that is not cool.
As for Kamiya, seems annoying, but it's his twitter and he can do what he likes.
I don't hate Kotaku as much as most it would appear.
Some people are incapable of parsing entire sentences as one. Can't be helped.
It's not banned, but when people say it, it'll be replaced in the subtitles with gaikokujin. They do this with a variety of somewhat-offensive words as well as certain incorrect forms of grammar, and will also "translate" less-well-known dialects into one of the standards.
(People who have never watched Japanese TV might not think that what's in the subtitles is a big deal, but it is; many variety shows will continuously subtitle every prominent utterance.)
It's not fun though. It's anti-social and anti-intellectual. The only purpose that gossip serves is to feed an undeserving craving. It does more harm than good pretty much 100% of the time. The only time it doesn't do any harm, it also doesn't do any good. Those are the times people just ignore a story and nothing happens. Nothing positive there, it just means it dodged being a negative thing.
Gossip and paparazzi by nature are not interested in actual reporting, factual accuracy, or journalism. They are interested in riling people up and presenting opinions based on facts which might or might not have been distorted simply to get a reaction from an audience hungry for every scrap of irrelevant information about individuals they obsessively follow either out of admiration or disdain. There is nothing healthy about it, and there never has. But with social networking, the problem seems to be getting worse.
NeededSleep
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meltingparappa
Member
It's the guy's personal twitter, and it's mostly him trolling the trolls (which DOES include Kotaku in this instance).
He's not razzing on his colleagues or using that as a forum to promote his games or anything like that.
Jasper Avenue
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I want to be one of Kamiya's henchman. I love how he just says whatever he wants.
Chuck Norris
Banned
He was called a pussy after the "gaijin" insult..... Which is the main point of issue. It's what he said in Japanese that is the main issue. He has every right to insult somebody calling him a pussy, but broad generalisations are the problem. It's like calling somebody a "stupid n-word", then arguing it was only an insult to that individual person and you're not actually being racist!
To be honest, his tweets don't paint him as the sharpest tool in the shed
I don't get why it's racist when they were in fact foreigners
I mean if he specifically used an offensive term like the n word then yeah sure be offended
I don't buy the argument that gaijin is inherently racist either, this is literally the first time I heard that and I come from a place which is fucking sensitive when it comes to racist slurs that the Japanese use
When did Phil Fish tell people to choke on his dick? That's hilarious!
call_kotaku
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If Kamiya calls me stupid I'd probably believe it.
Dude made RE4
Dude made RE4
He responded to numerous people provoking him with a similar message, then again in English when he was taunted into doing so.
I'm not saying we should put him on a pedestal for this, I'm just saying that what Fish did in response to a well meaning question at a professional event in a room full of peers, and what Kamiya did in response to a bombardment of angry messages is not the same.
There are quotas to reach. Look at Kotaku and other blog sites like 24 hour television news channels. Every so often you might find something interesting. The rest of the articles are graping at controversy for the sake of increased viewership or in this case readers.
And Vanquish, the best first person shooter ever.
Add "Why are people bringing up comments unrelated to this thread and compating Kamiya to the Figh guy?" to your post and we are set for the night.
He kinda did though. Saying stupid foreigners is racist/xenophobic. I'm not opposed to him saying something back to the guy but you can't say things like that without looking like a massive douchebag.
VeryGooster
Banned
Exactly. He isn't the Japanese emperor Kotaku makes him out to be. He has no reason to pretend to act a certain way. He may be an asshole, but it is his right. It is also fucking hilarious and I give him props for it.
https://soundcloud.com/ben-kuchera/jaffe-confrontation
Man Jaffe must be laughing his ass off at the tweet too.
Man Jaffe must be laughing his ass off at the tweet too.
Riposte
Member
I'm not convinced you've actually read the tweets if you thought he was making a broad generalization. Everyone subject to that insult has likely appeared on his twitter feed today (or at least are visible by searching everyone who decided to tweet him about the article/PC gaming).
Sorry, I absolutely refuse to make these two words equivalent. The entire basis of this is not what he meant, but rather he used the word "foreigner" (to refer to a small group of foreigners in a tweet otherwise showing positive intentions to foreigners in general). So that's the end of that.
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Retro_
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It was used an a derogatory sense out of anger
It was most certainly intended to offend
I wouldn't label it as prejudice, but I don't think it's acceptable because of that.
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