Fine irony, I say.
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Hideki Kamiya shits all over Kotaku
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I think what he's implying is that some foreign journalists have no qualms about using translations of questionable accuracy, and bits and pieces of out of context statements to write unfair and unflattering pieces about Japanese developers.
That would depend entirely on the context of the discussion, and how they responded when asked about it. It's always very important to make sure intent is clear before jumping to conclusions.
fart town usa
Gold Member
Oh, wasn't aware of that. I see now why some people might take offense to that.
Riposte
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He makes plenty of positive tweets aimed towards english speaking fans (though he hates repeating himself). Can you really blame him for showing contempt towards people complaining about Bayonetta 2 being on WiiU or making a big deal out of his PC comments? The aggressive comment we are looking to was a reply to a tweet calling him a pussy for speaking Japanese. Good grief.
TheBaronOfNA
Banned
I'm mainly a console player and I like Kamiya's games.
I dont think its banned, its simply not recommended since it make you look, well racist. Can cut some bridges.
R
Retro_
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It's not
http://gamasutra.com/view/news/177991/Steam_Japan_and_missed_opportunities.php#.UOzn-m_Adhx
This is an actual decent article on a japanese perspective of Steam and PC gaming in Japan
Since, you know, they actually asked a guy what his thoughts were.
Instead of taking tweets out of context as the basis of their article
Not even going to click on the link and give them hits.
I actually saw it the other way around. Kotaku trying to paint PC gaming as niche. Kotaku's almost as clueless about PC gaming themselves, beyond some articles they crib from TechSpot.
I mean that's something that we (americans) are always getting blasted for when someone says something like that, so I don't see why he can't be criticized either. Not that I'm saying you were defending him, just in general here.
GhaleonQ
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*nods* Agreed. I wish developers held themselves to higher standards without enforcing corporate blandness, but Kamiya's is easily the best approach if we're stuck in the ghetto for awhile. That's not the weeaboo defense; blunt force trauma's just the best way to engage distractions if you don't aspire to class.
However, it's not like he's in a position to take unnecessary risks. I hope nothing more serious happens in the future.
Big Shirtless Ron
Member
Kotaku is awful, but Kamiya is a child. There's absolutely nothing awesome about his tweets.
He called him pussy, because he wrote that insult in Japanese.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
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That doesn't make any sense to me. Almost nothing on Steam is region locked, not even games which are unavailable in certain regions (and those are rare). For example, Dragon Age Ultimate Edition is not available for purchase on the Steam store locally, but I had someone gift it to me and it worked fine. I also buy games from GMG and Amazon sales from time to time with Steam keys, and they always work.
I subscribe to the lowest tier on Starhub's cable internet and I get like 1-2 meg a second off Steam. This is really the first I've heard of anyone having serious problems using Steam here. So it's kinda weird.
Mr Nash
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Why do people even keep going to Kotaku, or even mention them? They only have a platform if people pay attention to them, otherwise they're just shouting at the wind. It always amazes me the sheer number of forum posts, not just here but around the internet at large, that complain about Kotaku and various other outlets for shoddy journalism, then a few posts down there's a link to some other news story they're running, and people are lapping it up. I miss the days when this place heavily outlawed the stupid sites, and wouldn't even allow links to them.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Completely situational. I've been called it and felt nothing and called it and felt offended (lol).
Yes, I editted it out. I'm on my phone.. this sucks lol.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Also dosn't Kamiya plays mostly NES games or something? I don't think he cares about modern gaming that much...so he's not the best person to put as base of your study about Japanese PC/valve interest....
Kamiya has been a badass his whole life. Why should he slow down now?
He's a real life Crows/Worst character
hey man, we're not the journalists, we're just the internet's preeminent videogame discussion community
Phonomezer
Banned
Such selective pickings.
Where's the I HATE PHIL FISH/FEZ crowd?
Uno Venova
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As far as "gwai lo" goes, I can speak for the Mandarin equivalent "gwee lao", where my experience is that it isn't used offensively but has taken on the general meaning of "caucasian" over time. It certainly isn't used disparagingly as it once was. Same with its other version, "lao wai".
I always assumed that "gaijin" was the Japanese equivalent...it just depends on how you use it. A term to primarily express "someone who isn't one of their own", but indeed, if you add a "F**king" to the start of it, then the context changes completely.
As for Kamiya, I'm not really getting a racist vibe, more that he's upset about "outsiders" making wild generalisations about Japan by using him as the prime example.
Kamiya is telling some jerk who is provoking him to go screw himself.
Fish told a Japanese colleague that Japanese games are trash in a room of his peers.
These situations are no comparable. Use your own brain.
Ban Puncher
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"Do you eat shit?"
I will now buy two copies of Anarchy Reigns.
I will now buy two copies of Anarchy Reigns.
I'll buy three copies if they put that on the back of the box.
Samurai_Heart
Member
Okay half-sleeping/awake now, but when he said:
He did say some "gaijin"; referring to those who kept bugging him, no? Gonna sleep now, probs get flamed on this XD.@PG_kamiya: Sweet dreams, everyone & some クソ馬鹿ぼんくらガイジン
PixyJunket
Member
Just more reason to give the man props, if true.
Holy Order Sol
Member
ITT People don't want to understand that translation isn't a 1:1 thing. "Foreigner" just happens to be more loaded in this case than its Japanese counterpart while still being the closest in meaning. I don't expect Kamiya to understand subtle things about the language given his other tweets.
they guilt people by writing too many 'why games need feminisim and homosexuality' articles so nobody can hate their quality without looking misogynistic.
I don't know how I feel about this. In Brazil people referred to me as a gringo initially, but at least there the word doesn't carry the same insult it does elsewhere. Hard to tell, though, because I've never been 100% sure if Brazilians even mean their insults.
Riposte
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I TOLD YOU 100000000 TIMES I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANARCHY REIGNS
(Get two copies of The Wonderful 101)
meltingparappa
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That's an incredible night and day difference from the Kotaku article. And maybe by even conducting that interview, it might have provided the most miniscule of a nudge towards more Japanese support of Steam.
It's like one is legitimate journalism and one is click-bait. I am SHOCKED. :O
I'm less interested in whether Kamiya might or might not be racist on his Twitter account, and more interested in wondering where we went wrong as a modern society such that casual comments on personal social networking accounts are turned into tabloid news on a regular basis in every form of entertainment.
Do people have better things to do?
Do people have better things to write?
Do people have better things to read?
How did we end up this way? Because it's getting kinda sad.
Do people have better things to do?
Do people have better things to write?
Do people have better things to read?
How did we end up this way? Because it's getting kinda sad.
I NEED SCISSORS
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While I suppose it's a comparable situation of painting an entire culture with one broad brushstroke, I think there is a difference in provocation here. Phil Fish flat out said to a humble Japanese man that their games "just sucked" (despite the fact his own game is a broken, horrible mess, but that's another story). Kamiya on the other hand has to put up with a bombardment of shit on Twitter daily and now even from the mainstream press. He's pretty much at breaking point when it comes to dealing with us English speakers - perhaps he should even get rid of his Twitter account to reduce stress and bad intercontinental vibes. He gets a free pass from me since I understand where he's coming from and he's generally pretty awesome. Phil Fish is just a dick all round from what i've seen with zero talent to make it tolerable.
Chie Satonaka
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Truth. The NES is timeless.
Chuck Norris
Banned
A pussy for hiding a backhanded insult behind Japanese text, not for speaking Japanese itself
haha holy shit i can't wait for the photoshops of all of kamiya's games with just his tweets plastered across them
Ban Puncher
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Will upping my pre-order of Metal Gear Rising from standard to limited edition also piss off Kamiya?
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