The keyword here is "will". Bush's keyword is "had". There is a difference and we can only compare the two when they are both at a "has" level.
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I can't believe I'm saying this..I miss Bush. He just owned Trump.
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The keyword here is "will". Bush's keyword is "had". There is a difference and we can only compare the two when they are both at a "has" level.
Lol he started doing the fucking Iraq war. Stop with this bullshit. Trump is horrible but bush was the cause of many many deaths.
RPGCrazied
Member
Give it time. Trump hasn't been in office a full year. If he stays for the rest of the 3, I expect many deaths under his watch.
Gunblade47
Neo Member
I don't.
Just because Trump is a terrible human being it doesnt make me miss Bush or his power hungry neo-conservative administration.
You and I know Trump is itching for a fight to boost his ego. That still doesnt absolve Bush.
Just because Trump is a terrible human being it doesnt make me miss Bush or his power hungry neo-conservative administration.
You and I know Trump is itching for a fight to boost his ego. That still doesnt absolve Bush.
Yeah, I really miss that war criminal.
GTFO with that shit.
He is responsible for millions of deaths, started a war based on lies, his administration is responsible for the worst invasion of privacy, and he raised the national debt to historical heights.
His administration ran on fear, Trump's runs on hate.
GTFO with that shit.
He is responsible for millions of deaths, started a war based on lies, his administration is responsible for the worst invasion of privacy, and he raised the national debt to historical heights.
His administration ran on fear, Trump's runs on hate.
Nameless
Member
Bush was scary because of guys like Rove and Cheney ruthlessly pushing a pure GOP agenda using war as its lifeblood. They ran a familiar playbook and were damn good at executing it and it fucking sucked. No, he wasn't an outwardly racist sociopath, but that hardly gives him a pass for the wars, stripped civil liberties or crashed economy. Good speech, though.
Thank all the gods and goddesses Trump doesn't have that sort of machine behind him.
Thank all the gods and goddesses Trump doesn't have that sort of machine behind him.
Bush is now removed from power, which leaves us with a half way decent human who never should have had power.
Trump never was and never will be decent. Trump spent his life being a sexual assaulter and con artist.
I think it is understandable to miss Bush as human, given how much of a lesser human Trump is.
Trump never was and never will be decent. Trump spent his life being a sexual assaulter and con artist.
I think it is understandable to miss Bush as human, given how much of a lesser human Trump is.
on one side there's this giant asshole who, hey, could hypothetically start a war, on the other we have an ex-president and apparently likeable person who actually started an extremely ill-advised war that was the catalyst of several other wars, which resulted in the deaths of hundred-thousands of people. And now we want him back
George Washington
Member
I dont
Fuck Bush. Bush is way, way fucking worse than Trump, and this attempt recently to rehabilitate his image is disgusting.
Sure, Trump has the potential to be as bad or worse, but so far he's not even close. Unless you value nice language and propriety over tangible policies and human life. Trump hasn't been able to accomplish anything remotely on the scale of Bush's atrocities as of yet. The man knowingly lied to the world to start a war that has cost hundreds of thousands of human lives and spawned a series of conflicts and global destabilization continuing to this day.
He eroded civil liberties and engaged in torture. He had a cabinet full of cronyism and corruption, and contributed to the worst financial collapse since the great depression. He sowed division over the wars, "patriotism," terrorism, and a disgusting assault on gay Americans to gain and maintain political power.
And once again, that's in addition to being largely responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. I'm just sick of people finding Trump's words and behavior to be even more offensive than the real, tangible, large scale destruction Bush is responsible for around the world.
They're both sorry stains of shit upon human existence, but we're all lucky that Trump and his goons have been unable to display the competence that the Bush administration had in the execution of evil policy.
Sure, Trump has the potential to be as bad or worse, but so far he's not even close. Unless you value nice language and propriety over tangible policies and human life. Trump hasn't been able to accomplish anything remotely on the scale of Bush's atrocities as of yet. The man knowingly lied to the world to start a war that has cost hundreds of thousands of human lives and spawned a series of conflicts and global destabilization continuing to this day.
He eroded civil liberties and engaged in torture. He had a cabinet full of cronyism and corruption, and contributed to the worst financial collapse since the great depression. He sowed division over the wars, "patriotism," terrorism, and a disgusting assault on gay Americans to gain and maintain political power.
And once again, that's in addition to being largely responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths. I'm just sick of people finding Trump's words and behavior to be even more offensive than the real, tangible, large scale destruction Bush is responsible for around the world.
They're both sorry stains of shit upon human existence, but we're all lucky that Trump and his goons have been unable to display the competence that the Bush administration had in the execution of evil policy.
Legato.Reborn-
Member
Liberals missing Bush
What else does this timeline have in store for us?
What else does this timeline have in store for us?
Thank you for this post, I was attacked for going after that shit stain in the other thread. These recent attempts to rehabilitate his image as some loveable old coot that paints pictures and donates to africa, and not a mass murdering psychopath, are infuriating. Apparently his words now have some worth because of the "greater evil", I actually read we need all the help we can get. Fuck that. Where do we draw the line? Should Kony and al-Baghdadi be welcomed into the ranks if they issue their own anti-Trump statements?
You know what I'm not American and I can't say I disagree. When you have posters in here saying they miss a warmonger whose actions resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths then you kinda start to lose sympathy.
cromofo
Member
We all know saying "grab her by the pussy" trumps being responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.
It's 2017 y'all.
cartographer
Member
I'm trying to find the half way decency in starting an illegal torture camp, invading a foreign country on false information leading to the deaths of hundreds of thousands, inaction during Katrina, the Patriot act etc.
Like, I guess he could have started two illegal torture camps and invaded more foreign countries and killed millions, but bit of a weird standard, ain't it?
cromofo
Member
Basically "not racist but ok with racism" type of system on a larger and more serious scale.
The world is still living through the consequences of Bush's war, actually, the rise of Radical Islam thanks to the Iraq war played a big part in Trump getting to where he is. Trump sure has the capacity to be worse, but he still has a long way to go.
People humanizing a war criminal because he know better than to be sexist/racist in publics in this thread is pretty disgusting though.
People humanizing a war criminal because he know better than to be sexist/racist in publics in this thread is pretty disgusting though.
Bush had awareness torture is wrong, hence the whole doing it in dark and pretending it is actually not torture.
Trump screams in your face that there is nothing wrong with torture.
Not sure if you realize it, but that example just shows that Bush is a much worse person to have as a president. He actually know how pass the evil shit he want to pass instead ruining half his plans with twitter posts!
Herr Schwarz
Banned
Bush would definitely be a better president now, knowing what he knows than Trump that's for sure.
But then again, so could a water cooler.
But then again, so could a water cooler.
yup
Imperfected
Member
I don't know about Baby Boy Bush, but I miss Bush the Senior. Granted, part of it was a result of being a one-term president, but he really didn't fuck shit up anywhere near as bad as any of the Republican presidents that surround him in history.
I guess that's why they wouldn't vote for him.
I guess that's why they wouldn't vote for him.
Bush was awful and the Iraq war should have never been, but i'd still prefer him because I imagine that if 9/11 happened during the first year of Trump's presidency, and that Trump was given carte blanche by both parties and houses of congress to do whatever the fuck he wanted the way Bush was, that his reaction and the fallout would have been like an order of magnitude worse. (like Patriot Act on steroids, sweeping muslim bans (or worse), in addition to more violent wars. and, of course, he thinks we should have just kept Iraq's oil.)
yeah it's a hypothetical, though.
nightmare scenario would be Trump in that situation with Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Cheney in his ear.
yeah it's a hypothetical, though.
nightmare scenario would be Trump in that situation with Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Cheney in his ear.
cartographer
Member
I don't think you know what decency is.
and he looked cute in his little rain jacket
Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Not sure when Bush crosses into this likeable goof territory but like others have said he was directly responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths - if not millions.
As yet, while Trump is awful he hasnt done that. And dramatic responses saying he allowed neo nazis to murder an American citizen are distortions. And him maybe doing something at some point doesnt make him worse. Bush was horrendous.
As yet, while Trump is awful he hasnt done that. And dramatic responses saying he allowed neo nazis to murder an American citizen are distortions. And him maybe doing something at some point doesnt make him worse. Bush was horrendous.
Tough but justified.
You don't need to wait for a year. Not even a fucking month since he took office.
The Independent said:
Just because your shitty US news channels/papers focus more on frivolous celeb BS and not report on all the conflicts your country is involved in doesn't mean they don't exist.
Source: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...n-nawar-al-awlaki-aqap-al-qaeda-a7621296.html