Fresh Face
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Don't get me wrong, third person is fine for somethings, but first person is good for others. I hate when people put one where the other should go.
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If the Oculus Rift takes off, how will it change games?
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Exploding8
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How so?
Fresh Face
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I don't even get the point of this post. Who has use for FPSers? You mean people who play them or the games themselves? Either way, you do realize that most games that attempt to be immersive go for first person correct (not that all first person games are at all immersive, just that first person is the obvious choice if you want the player to forget themselves and feel like they are there). Oculus Rift is a natural choice for FPSs, and it may even convince some people to like them (who don't already).
That doesn't mean other genres will die. Not at all.
KnockOneOff
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I honestly think it will be like the whole 3D stuff, get alot of investment, sell alot of units, gets complaints about motion sickness, then eventually when everyone has tried it.
It will slowly die, VR always comes around like 3D and advances and progresses everytime.
But then it's nothing but a novelty which won't be used in daily lives.
Just a cool trend for a while
It will slowly die, VR always comes around like 3D and advances and progresses everytime.
But then it's nothing but a novelty which won't be used in daily lives.
Just a cool trend for a while
br0ken_shad0w
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jacksepticeye
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the real alpha is for backers but there is a playable 20min alpha for everyone
Here on the Kickstarter page
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/krillbite/among-the-sleep
But that does not have any OR support but full release version will have it
Nice one dude, I didn't know there was a public Alpha. Gonna play it right now and do a video on it
Just curious, why don't any of you think it isn't going to take off?
Because I have one, and it's fucking amazing. It needs 1080p+ resolution badly, but it's ludicrous to assume this thing isn't going anywhere.
VR sickness has gone away for anyone who has used it more than twice. Which, for me, has been around nine people. No one has continued symptoms.
Because I have one, and it's fucking amazing. It needs 1080p+ resolution badly, but it's ludicrous to assume this thing isn't going anywhere.
VR sickness has gone away for anyone who has used it more than twice. Which, for me, has been around nine people. No one has continued symptoms.
Rentahamster
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You could make a pretty kick ass god game with this.
abstract alien
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Outside of first person stuff, I just see designs that enhance the increased depth perception (like a lot of 3ds games). I still don't really know enough about it though.
maybe many people use the wrong games. Sth like virieo driver games.
There are many many many EVE VR or Oculud 1080p HD reactions of people who tried it and had their first OR play ever and i heard not really much about sickness.
Sho_Nuff82
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More first person games in non-conventional genres. Think Mirror's Edge, Amnesia, Thief, or the Forest.
I think shooters will be the least impacted. Racing and mocha games will be moreso.
I think shooters will be the least impacted. Racing and mocha games will be moreso.
You have the worst opinions of all time.
At this point, I'm starting to believe you're just trolling. Nobody can have such shit opinions.
If VR takes off... then the implication for gaming is that the technologies built for and around gaming will start finding much greater traction and applicability for general uses. Positive feedback loop - much greater market applicability for said tech means a lot more money available to work on said technology.
Streamlined VR asset generation will become paramount.
Streamlined VR asset generation will become paramount.
Yeah, Vireio is rough. I was so excited to play Mirror's Edge with the injection, but I couldn't handle it.
Native VR support is paramount.
MadOdorMachine
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VR will be the biggest change to gaming since the 3D/N64 era. Yes, there will be a lot of games that are in first person perspective and open world at first, but there will be other innovations as well. I have little doubt that developers are correct when they said VR will create entirely new genres.
In Mario 64, Lakitu (the guy on the cloud with the camera) is actually following you the entire game. Theoretically, this is the solution (at least at first) for third person games. You will be in that world as an on looker. Perhaps, they could make the character you're controlling your ghost or avatar.
There are other genre's that will benefit though, like God Games or top down games.
I can imagine a virtual room (in first person) is a hub and when you want to go to a different level, you select a different level that's laid out like a board game. You look down at the board game/level, select it and then the camera zooms in and you're there controlling your character from a top down perspective.
There's also the option of doing that virtual movie theater, but instead, you're looking at a virtual screen and playing a game.
In Mario 64, Lakitu (the guy on the cloud with the camera) is actually following you the entire game. Theoretically, this is the solution (at least at first) for third person games. You will be in that world as an on looker. Perhaps, they could make the character you're controlling your ghost or avatar.
There are other genre's that will benefit though, like God Games or top down games.
I can imagine a virtual room (in first person) is a hub and when you want to go to a different level, you select a different level that's laid out like a board game. You look down at the board game/level, select it and then the camera zooms in and you're there controlling your character from a top down perspective.
There's also the option of doing that virtual movie theater, but instead, you're looking at a virtual screen and playing a game.
The motion sickness is a tractable issue. The largest single cause of it resides in the fact that the dev kit headset doesn't track lateral motion. The second largest source is in the frame rate and latency.
After that, you have the display, its latency, refresh, smearing and resolution also affecting it to some degree.
But the first and third problems are things that Oculus intend on solving with the consumer version, while the second is largely a function of your own computers muscle and game settings.
Basically, by minimizing the gap between perceived visual motion and perceived physical motion (i.e. when you turn in the world, you're turning in real life, when you're walking, you feel like you're walking (on the spot, or omni directional - something that induces a natural head bob)), you minimize the amount of motion sickness that you experience with the device.
But while the device is prone to causing motion sickness; you're right, it won't quickly become a mass consumer device.
There are a few gamers that are strangely threatened by the idea of VR here... that they simply don't even want to discuss the possibility of its success.
Oh well. Sucks for them when it does take off. Or rather it won't, they'll just be proven wrong. *shrug*.
Spoken like a true console peasant.
Ah and dont forget the effect of VR on two other often discussed Gaming Topics. Online Streaming like Gaikai/Onlive and Motion Controler.
If VR becomes successful you cant use online streaming for it, it´s just not possible for VR. On the other hand, Motion Controler works much much better in VR.
If VR becomes successful you cant use online streaming for it, it´s just not possible for VR. On the other hand, Motion Controler works much much better in VR.
Because they haven't used it with EVR yet and there is nothing else close to a well polished game experience made specifically for the Oculus.
statham
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I want the consumer version right now.
me too. When the it hits I'm upgrading my PC. I can see me coming home and relaxing on a beach in Hawaii or Bahamas.
the ultimative OR Coop, need to see!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3nJWHBcDNk&t=3m0s
Fore mobile user: 3.00Min
xD
So they're gonna have to have a camera system that's only controllable by the player. Which is the superior camera for third person perspective games anyway. And playing RTS games with this where you pan with head movements and literally have a God's eye view will be great. Imagine an isometric game designed to use the Rift. You could literally make the fantasy of watching your toys come to life and fight on your floor while you watch them from above a reality.
ThaiGrocer
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I'm loving OR, but there's one thing that's going backwards: the wires. I'm looking forward to a fully wireless version in the near future. The components need to mature or advance and then we're in IRL-less heaven.
It's under consideration for Rift 2.0 atm
GravityMan
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The OR has already built up too much hype for it to be "DOA", so your post is ridiculous. It will sell.
I think it will carve out a nice niche for itself (it'll do fine among the hardcore), but it will initially be a very hard sell to the masses (typical casuals). If the MSRP of the consumer product is around $300, that will be a detriment. System requirements will be a detriment. It needs 1080p and good AA. A fully wireless solution would be good. Risk of motion sickness needs to be addressed and lessened. I wonder if the unit will remain comfortable on people's heads after lengthy play sessions (assuming no motion sickness). Basically the tech needs a few years of revisions to mature and the cost of entry needs to be lower, and it needs good word of mouth, plus it would help if a PS4 or X1 branded version surfaced. The "virtual tourism" and "Google Maps" ideas sprung earlier in this thread would help too...OR needs interesting non-gaming applications. Demo kiosks in a store may help too. Only then will the product have a good chance to really blow up. Even then...some people are image-conscious and simply won't want the thing on their heads. Plus it may fail the GF/wife test for some.
As for games...it won't kill traditional gaming on a TV; that's absurd. I'm sure (and hope) it will mean a resurgence of slower-paced adventure games. Fast-paced twitch shooters may not work so well; neither would on-rails style games.
I love horror games, but an Amnesia-style game + Oculus Rift might just be a bit too much for me...
I'm sure it will take off, but I don't think it will overtake traditional gaming, for a few reasons:
1) It requires large goggles and a PC...somewhat cumbersome.
2) Proper calibration is not obvious. For an optimal experience, it needs to be calibrated for each person, depending on their IPD and other stats.
3) Motion sickness.
4) Most traditional gaming experiences do not work well with the Rift.
5) VR gaming is a solitary experience.
ThatStupidLion
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maybe non-fps games will allow you to control the camera with your head.
I don't think it will take off in a 'Wii' kind of way due to how antisocial and uninteresting it looks from the outside, but I definitely think it will have an impact on hardcore gamers. I see people here complaining about the current gaming climate (specifically AAA gaming), I definitely think this will be the product for them, something wholly new that's exciting for gamers who have seen it all. The 'Wiimote' of hardcore gamers.