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[Arkhan]

I think people need to remember that acceptable performance is not an objective measurement, and is in fact highly varied among gamers and platforms. It is entirely reasonable to question a games performance regardless of how much fun it is to play. I have had huge amounts of fun with games that perform poorly or are actually broken but that doesn't invalidate those complaints.

There are those who will consider any level of performance acceptable if they can play a game and enjoy themselves, just like there are those who will not play a game at all unless it meets certain levels of quality. Being early access does allow more leeway for these things on the basis that they are unfinished and will be corrected, but again, this doesn't invalidate complaints regarding its current performance, nor does it suggest it should not be commented on because it is incomplete. Even if a game is free it is reasonable to comment on how it performs. Any game - full release or otherwise - has the potential to be altered and fixed where problems lay, but we do not hold off reviews on the basis they may be fixed in the future. We comment on its current quality, and we hope for improvements where that is lacking.

 

[hiphopcr]

So much hate over this game being exclusive to xbox.

This.

 

[Senua]

This.

Persecution complex?

 

[Calibos]

The console version is objectively flawed currently. No debate. Hundreds of thousands of gamers have expressed displeasure with the broken state of game on console.

Please don’t be a fanboy

Sure. Objectively flawed is a good way to put it because it's in game preview...so objectively, it isn't a final product.

Broken is very subjective however. That comes down to more of what is an acceptable level of performance for me, you or whoever to play and enjoy the game.

Hundreds of thousands of people have expressed there displeasure...this is very true. I am one of them. I am not happy with where the game is at and want them to update and optimize regularly.

The game is performing way better on the X too, which is a shame since the install base is larger for the OG and S. Hopefully they can get the older systems to an acceptable framerate and eliminate the popping and loading issues and cut the input lag down over the next few weeks.

We went from 0.5.24 to 0.5.29 after a week...So I understand that it's going to be a while before we get the final product, but instead of trashing the game constantly as broken I am just choosing to play whats there and enjoy it. Don't think I am a fanboy for any of the above...just a less jaded more optimistic gamer.

 

[hiphopcr]

Persecution complex?

Inferiority complex from those without PubG

 

[iHaunter]

There reviewing a beta?

If they can sell millions of copies of an unfinished game, it should be reviewed at the time of being sold.

 

[kaiyo]

Huge map with 100 players, it's definitely a CPU heavy game, and the jaguar CPU is rather weak, even by 2012 standards.

MAG with huge maps with 256 players ran decently on the ps3....

 

[Senua]

MAG with huge maps with 256 players ran decently on the ps3....

The cell was a very advanced processor for its time, the jaguars were shit from the get go.

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

Hyperbole. While very early, the game is fine and I"m playing on an S, not X.

Those parachutes jumps are sure something tho lol.

Yep. Outside of the lobby and parachute sequences I haven’t had any issues with the game outside of a couple glitches.

 

[ricardo_sousa11]

For as much as the game is fun (on PC), this is still far from a finished product, and should not get anywhere near a 9. Performance is still terrible, and theres still a ton of bugs and issues.

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

I think people need to remember that acceptable performance is not an objective measurement, and is in fact highly varied among gamers and platforms. It is entirely reasonable to question a games performance regardless of how much fun it is to play. I have had huge amounts of fun with games that perform poorly or are actually broken but that doesn't invalidate those complaints.

There are those who will consider any level of performance acceptable if they can play a game and enjoy themselves, just like there are those who will not play a game at all unless it meets certain levels of quality. Being early access does allow more leeway for these things on the basis that they are unfinished and will be corrected, but again, this doesn't invalidate complaints regarding its current performance, nor does it suggest it should not be commented on because it is incomplete. Even if a game is free it is reasonable to comment on how it performs. Any game - full release or otherwise - has the potential to be altered and fixed where problems lay, but we do not hold off reviews on the basis they may be fixed in the future. We comment on its current quality, and we hope for improvements where that is lacking.

It is ABSOLUTELY an objective measurement

 

[quickwhips]

The patch makes me rubber band now. It’s weird the game played fine before the patch.

 

[Arkhan]

It is ABSOLUTELY an objective measurement

We all have a different version of what acceptable is. There are many people who find 30fps games unacceptable as there are those who play games in the 20's without complaint. No individual is the arbiter of another persons tolerance to poor performance.

Is there poor performance here by normal standards? I would say that is certainly so. Is that acceptable to a player? That is for them to decide, not you or I. I would think this distinction is clear.

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

The patch makes me rubber band now. It’s weird the game played fine before the patch.

I played twice and rubber banding was a lot worse for me as well, back to Fortnite for the time being.

 

[mad597]

Persecution complex?

No just observation of reality

 

[mad597]

For as much as the game is fun (on PC), this is still far from a finished product, and should not get anywhere near a 9. Performance is still terrible, and theres still a ton of bugs and issues.

It shouldn't be reviewed at all, clickbait BS to review a game still in preview and early access.

Such a sham to pick this one game out of the preview program to review.

 

[mad597]

Are they selling a beta for money?

Dozens of games on the xbox are in the preivew program along with hundreds of games in early access on pc and they charge money and many are in worse shape and more incomplete than PUBG. Why did IGN choose this one game to review?

Do they not understand the concept of early access and game preview? Its been around for years.

 

[mad597]

Sorry but that's just spin. This is literally the very definition of what a beta is.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_testing

You get every update and the complete version at a reduced price compared to the final release.

Come on people early access and game preview are not a new thing do we really have to pretend you people dont know what this is?

Why do people always act so stupid when it comes to Xbox related stuff.

Gee whats this game preview program thats been around for years, better bash it cause Xbox got the most popular game of the year on it.

 

[mad597]

This game should be a free Beta if you want to use the excuse it's a Beta.

FREE betas dont include the final version of the game like this will.

You are getting a discount on the final game when it comes out and in the meantime you can play the game as it is developed.

Its a discounted pre order with the option to play the current build now.

Reviewing this is pretty stupid and simple click bait.

 

[mad597]

They're asking for your money. No it isn't.

Game preview/ Early Access how does it work?

/s

 

[JareBear: Remastered]

We all have a different version of what acceptable is. There are many people who find 30fps games unacceptable as there are those who play games in the 20's without complaint. No individual is the arbiter of another persons tolerance to poor performance.

Is there poor performance here by normal standards? I would say that is certainly so. Is that acceptable to a player? That is for them to decide, not you or I. I would think this distinction is clear.

You are wrong. Plain and simple.

 

[Arkhan]

You are wrong. Plain and simple.

Do you have a counter argument to my point? By all means tell me I am wrong, but without why you think this your post is vapid at best. The point I made is, for most, common sense. If you believe you can determine and set a standard of acceptable performance for other people, then it requires an explanation on your part. Tell me why JareBear gets to decide what is acceptable performance for everyone else.

 

[JaxBriggs]

You get every update and the complete version at a reduced price compared to the final release.

Hey that's awesome. Doesn't change the fact though that this is a beta (Game Preview, Early Access, whatever you want to call it) being sold for money, which was the point of discussion between myself and that other poster.

 

[Journey]

Persecution complex?

Persecution complex - Persecution complex?

 

[Grinchy]

I tried it again and it is even worse after the patch. It was already unplayable but now they’ve added rubberbanding lag to make it an even more horrible experience.

I honestly do not understand how people are having fun with this. These aren’t flaws I can personally overlook. Hopefully they iron this shit out soon.

 

[IISANDERII]

I tried it again and it is even worse after the patch. It was already unplayable but now they’ve added rubberbanding lag to make it an even more horrible experience.

I honestly do not understand how people are having fun with this. These aren’t flaws I can personally overlook. Hopefully they iron this shit out soon.

Iron out? Sounds more like they need a group of steamrollers 😼

 

[Night.Ninja]

I tried it again and it is even worse after the patch. It was already unplayable but now they’ve added rubberbanding lag to make it an even more horrible experience.

I honestly do not understand how people are having fun with this. These aren’t flaws I can personally overlook. Hopefully they iron this shit out soon.

I'm only getting rubber banding at the start after the drop for around 30 seconds then it evens it self out, same on the pc version 🤷