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Games still in development running on dev-kits, news at 11.

Way to fish for hits, IGN. Fucking shameful and pathetic.

 

[Justin]

I've been kinda concerned by the size of the PS4.

Find myself wondering what all the people who pointed out when some Xbox One games were running on PC are feeling right now. Hopefully equal feelings directed towards Sony.

What is the concern with the size? Ventilation and heat?

 

[shinobi602]

Title seems explosive.

Of course they are devkits.

No shit they're using dev-kits. IGN pays this guy?

I'm going to pre-order a PS4 dev kit instead. its the only way to be sure.

News at 11

Games being developed still for a console that hasn't launched and is still 3 months from launch are demoed on dev kits.

Dev Kits =/= To spec PCs

Why shouldn't they run on devkits? x_x

Games still in development running on dev-kits, news at 11.

Way to fish for hits, IGN. Fucking shameful and pathetic.

To be fair, apparently Microsoft had retail Xbox One units at Gamescom running games.

 

[Vyer]

Find myself wondering what all the people who pointed out when some Xbox One games were running on PC are feeling right now. Hopefully equal feelings directed towards Sony.

was there a thread on that?

 

[Megasoum]

Those tweets/articles are so funny.

 

[jiggles]

(Edited out the most disreputable games journalist.)

You're a classier man than I.

 

[Darklor01]

My lord. People seriously considering canceling for this? Wow. I hope I'm never on the ship you guys sail on. Too many people ready to jump off.

Sit back, relax in the tub.

 

[DrM]

IGN doing their patriotic duty lately it seems

Maybe they received some unexpected blue envelope in their mail... who knows...

 

[Red Chocobo]

IGN doing their patriotic duty lately it seems

Came to post this.

 

[Caayn]

I've been kinda concerned by the size of the PS4.

Find myself wondering what all the people who pointed out when some Xbox One games were running on PC are feeling right now. Hopefully equal feelings directed towards Sony.

Lol, nope. Sony can't do anything wrong. I doubt that this gets even 1% of the attention that Microsoft got with Lococycle running on PCs.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

The way I understood this was that the uproar about XBOX One a few months ago was because they were using high-spec, Windows-based PC's, playing games with the XBOX Controller while Sony was showing stuff off on DevKits.

Am I wrong here? I would hope that, at this point, everything is running on DevKits at a minimum. I'm not that concerned if either of them aren't running on final hardware yet.

He doesn't usually write about games, he's their tech editor...

No you have it right

 

[ElTorro]

To be fair, apparently Microsoft had retail Xbox One units at Gamescom running games.

It's the same hardware. A devkit doesn't have better performance, it just has more interfaces for debugging, and certainly lacks some security restrictions that retail units have.

 

[Xbudz]

Was the clunky PS4 demo of Assassins Creed 4 at E3 running on a PC or Devkit as well?

 

[anexanhume]

Look ma, I'm a star.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Good play good Sir...

also this lol
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Edit: of course their devkits... -_-

 

[Loudninja]

My lord. People seriously considering canceling for this? Wow. I hope I'm never on the ship you guys sail on. Too many people ready to jump off.

Sit back, relax in the tub.

No all jokes 99% of the time

 

[Kade]

That can be taken as good news. Sony is saving as many ps4s as it can for preorders and store shelves. They announced their street date. I have no worries about them meeting it.

I'm sure they're really concerned about losing sales on those 25-100 demo units.

 

[warthog]

I'll be glad when both consoles are out. Maybe the focus of news will be more on the games then.

 

[Clockwork5]

Much different tone here than on the Xbox thread about the same issue which was the neogaf litter box for a good week or so.

 

[Uno Venova]

Ok, I thought the situation at Gamescom from show floor impressions here that there were working PS4's at the Sony booths and devkits at third party booths.

 

[Cartman86]

Don't see why it should be much worse than the Wii U Gamepad.

That would be great but previous attempts by Sony have sucked and increasing WiFi hardware isn't going to do it. They need to speed up video decoding etc. Just hope it was a big enough focus from the beginning.

 

[chubigans]

To be fair, apparently Microsoft had retail Xbox One units at Gamescom running games.

Or were they shells with fake power cords also? How do we know for sure?!

 

[LTWood12]

Digital Foundry would disagree, and quite explicitly:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

Unlike many of Microsoft's show-floor demos this E3, however, the use of genuine PS4 hardware among all developers also gives us a far more honest insight into the console's potential, despite making for a brace of nail-biting "will it? won't it?" moments during its conference.

 

[Man-is-Obsolete]

To be fair, apparently Microsoft had retail Xbox One units at Gamescom running games.

To be fair their dev kit is also the console, which is why it is bigger I suppose. It is also a pretty nice way to handle dev kits, but I wonder about the security of that down the road.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Shocking.

 

[alr1ght]

I've been kinda concerned by the size of the PS4.

Find myself wondering what all the people who pointed out when some Xbox One games were running on PC are feeling right now. Hopefully equal feelings directed towards Sony.

Devkit, not a PC spec'd to console settings.

 

[macewank]

not sure what the story here is.

unfinished/unreleased console, unfinished/unreleased game code.

of course they're going to run off of dev kits?

 

[sublimit]

 

[benny_a]

To be fair, apparently Microsoft had retail Xbox One units at Gamescom running games.

How can you tell if Albert Penello says they are the same? I'm assuming what he means by that is that they look the same, as a devkit should have more memory.

 

[op_ivy]

Much different tone here than on the Xbox thread about the same issue which was the neogaf litter box for a good week or so.

persecution complex.

 

[The Omega Man]

What if when we open our brand new PS4 boxes, there is a high end PC instead, with a "sorry" note signed by Kaz?

 

[AngryMoth]

It's understandable, just the reality of developing for a new console. I accepted a while ago that everything that is being shown for next gen is only what developers hope it will look like. Will judge the graphics once the systems are actually out.

 

[ArchedThunder]

The number of people in here who think a devkit is just a PC startles me.

 

[Row]

Much different tone here than on the Xbox thread about the same issue which was the neogaf litter box for a good week or so.

someone already pointed out the difference

 

[Killing_Joke]

How much remote play demos do they need? Is he really starting to wonder if it works even though they have been doing it for years now with the original PSP? lol

PS4 launch is set, locked and loaded. What is the concern?

 

[Epsilon]

You're telling me that unfinished games with unfinished code can be played only on dev-kits?

 

[madmackem]

Wow games websites hitting new lows with the click baiting of late.

 

[cyberheater]

A PS4 devkit running the PS4 OS is not a PC.

It's not a PS4 either.

 

[Justin]

What if when we open our brand new PS4 boxes, there is a high end PC instead, with "sorry" note signed by Kaz?

If we could only be so lucky.

 

[GQman2121]

In a season where they're going to want to have as many units as possible on sale, I'm not surprised that devs kits are being used to demo these.....demos.

 

[shinobi602]

Or were they shells with fake power cords also? How do we know for sure?!

To be fair their dev kit is also the console, which is why it is bigger I suppose. It is also a pretty nice way to handle dev kits, but I wonder about the security of that down the road.

I guess, I think this close to launch, having a consumer unit Xbox One already done and finished and playing games as opposed to a devkit instills more confidence generally. I don't care either way.

 

[cebri.one]

Pre-alpha builds running on devkits. SHOCKING NEWS

 

[dr_rus]

Yes, it's very concerning. Please understand.

 

[lazer_bean]

how many consoles on display are we talking about ?
and why is it so obvious, to some, that Sony would use devkits instead ? especially when MS had retail units running in their booth.
I'm just asking because I'm curious

 

[Massa]

Much different tone here than on the Xbox thread about the same issue which was the neogaf litter box for a good week or so.

It's not the same issue at all, a PC running Windows is not a console devkit.

how many consoles on display are we talking about ?
and why is it so obvious, to some, that Sony would use devkits instead ? especially when MS had retail units running in their booth.
I'm just asking because I'm curious

Microsoft also uses devkits in their booths, when they're not using Windows PC's that is. It just so happens that the external design of their devkits is identical to the retail unit.

 

[OdysseusVA]

IGN being garbage as usual

 

[teiresias]

Lol, nope. Sony can't do anything wrong. I doubt that this gets even 1% of the attention that Microsoft got with Lococycle running on PCs.

Except here Scott doesn't know the difference between a devkit and a PC. They were running on devkits, not "to spec" PCs. This is completely expected.

 

[DrM]

Wow games websites hitting new lows with the click baiting of late.

I think that we will see articles on which console is bigger dust magnet in December.

 

[Espresso]

Edit: Nevermind.

 

[ArchedThunder]

persecution complex.

Or it isn't comparable at all.
PC=/=Devkit

Read people.