Doh, I missed the first few frames the first time :lol Impressive. Hey if you find a good solution for the clipping, hook me up! We only have functioning collision in the Y direction I think (why my fully functioning 1+ year old code taken from a youtube video can't be used is beyond me).Unity with post processing stack helps the visuals a lot
Camera clipping the next thing I'm going to work on, I need to do more testing with the interpolated camera fix I found, but so far that's looking really nice (sooooo much less jitter)
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Indie Game Development Thread 3: Indie Jones and the Template of Doom
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MikeHaggar
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Yeah, we like the jump too. A lot of others seem to as well. We will just kind of gauge everyone's reaction to all of the footage we release and go from there. And noted on the run animation
Your game looks super charming, so I don't think you have anything to be embarrassed about. Just keep doing what you are doing!
I'm interested in making a game based on marble tracks and marble tilt puzzles. It would use platforming and puzzle elements on a marble track framework. Inspired by toys like these:
I'm looking for games that have already done similar things so that I don't inadvertently retread too much ground. I wanted to check with the thread if you guys are aware of any others that have been made or are under development, where the main gameplay is guiding a rolling object through a course. Thanks in advance for any input!
So far these are the significant marble games I can find:
Marble Madness
Marble Blast
Super Monkey Ball
Kororinpa
Metroid Prime morph ball paths
Pinball machines
I'm looking for games that have already done similar things so that I don't inadvertently retread too much ground. I wanted to check with the thread if you guys are aware of any others that have been made or are under development, where the main gameplay is guiding a rolling object through a course. Thanks in advance for any input!
So far these are the significant marble games I can find:
Marble Madness
Marble Blast
Super Monkey Ball
Kororinpa
Metroid Prime morph ball paths
Pinball machines
Thanks! Yeah, it was multi-month journey in terms of explorations of texture painting techniques in combination with shaders to land on the visual style that I ended up with. Certainly have been learning a lot!
Astrael
Member
I believe there's one puzzle in Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild that sorta uses this concept with motion control (at least in the Wii U version):
Only instance that came to mind which you hadn't listed here. Man, I used to love Marble Madness haha.
Here is the tutorial I followed to get much smoother camera movements in Unity.
It really helped a lot in my case.
It really helped a lot in my case.
I believe there's one puzzle in Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild that sorta uses this concept with motion control (at least in the Wii U version):
Only instance that came to mind which you hadn't listed here. Man, I used to love Marble Madness haha.
Ah, good one. I just got to the shrine with them rolling down the slope yesterday ^_^
Sigh, game deving is rough :lol For the first time in a month or two, all three of us finally got together again, so we could show our third guy all the hard work we've been putting in while he's been away. Everything has been working pretty much perfectly when we've been working just the two of us. But today, so much stuff just broke inexplicably for no reason (well, the crash logs said otherwise of course) and we couldn't really enjoy the fruits of our labor as it's intended. The most frustrating thing is that the stuff that broke today worked just fine just a couple of days ago as best as we could tell. No one has touched the code responsible. One step forward, and two backwards
Hypereides
Member
Thanks for following it! I use 3DS Max for both modelling and animation. My experience is mainly just CnW, I went from modding GTA and Unreal to this project. It's been 6 years so far, but in that time I've managed to go from this:
To this:
That's inspiring. Respect to your dedication and commitment.
P.S: Are you using Unity or the Unreal engine - or perhaps something entirely else?
I assume given your background you're leaning towards Unreal?
probably a lesser known one but as a kid I really enjoyed this game on PC where you played as a hamster in a ball rolling around levels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zr4pRzWMqRg
It had some really fun platformer-like mechanics in some of the levels.
MrMysterio
Member
Uh, that feeling when you're a week away from a deadline and suddenly Unity crashes left and right as if it wasn't made for anything else. *vomit*
Did you happen to upgrade to a newer version or something? Unless you did, I don't think there'd be any reason for your game to suddenly start acting up.
Also, have you looked at any recent changes that could've introduced those bugs? Do you have a repo you can check diffs and revert files in, or are you stuck with whatever's on your hard drive? What do the profiler and debugger say?
If you haven't linked MonoDevelop or Visual Studio to Unity to be able to debug errors in the exact moment they happen or set breakpoints, I'd suggest that you look into that, since way too many times the reason for sudden crashes ends up being an unfortunate refactor (remember that changing property names means you'll lose the values you had set for them on prefabs and on-scene objects) or null references that get passed around by mistake (ie: you get an object reference on Awake, but the object itself didn't get to execute its own Awake method yet because Script Execution Order, so you end up getting a whole lot of null references seemingly out of nowhere).
MrMysterio
Member
Thanks for the reply!
Think I'm slowly getting to the problem. Didn't update Unity, or anything really, since working on the project.
Project's been fine all day, and now it suddenly crashes Unity on Editor Play, but only when an HTC Vive is connected - it does build fine, though.
Also, tried it on a new project, same thing. Editor Play okay without headset, with headset it crashes.
Earlier today it was all fine, so retracing some steps. Just one of those days.
It's definitely one of those things source control is great for. Reproducible crash starts happening? Bam, roll back a few changes in a temporary branch until it stops happening.
Michael Armbrust
Member
Those animations look great! I love the little jump in the running animation.
Yeah, we like the jump too. A lot of others seem to as well. We will just kind of gauge everyone's reaction to all of the footage we release and go from there. And noted on the run animation
Your game looks super charming, so I don't think you have anything to be embarrassed about. Just keep doing what you are doing!
Cool, I look forward to seeing it progress! And thank you for the kind words!
Far to kind; oddly enough I'm actually using Unity, mainly because the Asset Store and tutorials allowed me a solid base to experiment with. Given the recent image problem Unity seems to have, I'm glad you couldn't tell!
Looking like a solid start; one thing I notice with the walk though, his left leg is snapping slightly as it starts to move forward. I don't know whether it's just a dropped frame in the gif or a bit of popping in the animation but I figured it worth noting!Credit to LordRaptor for the hooves idea, I gave it a try and I like it quite a bit more than the shoe-like feet.
Finished the basic rig and made two movement animations to start with.
Now time to start getting the basic framework up in Unreal.
Finally finished and released my game!
I haven't posted here in a while but I asked for a bunch of advice when I was still boxing in the game mechanics.
Since then the game changed quite a bit mostly on art style and back-end stuff. It works pretty much the same since some of you play tested in a year or so ago.
It went from this:
to this:
That's not the same area but well, you get the point. Also, it didn't start as a tile based game which made me lose a ton of time but refactoring it helped a lot.
I'm never making a full game again. What a process. It's my second game but this one had a bigger scope and man, it was a struggle at times. But well, it's done. I made a crappy trailer too but still haven't published it since it doesn't look that good mostly because recording stuff out of my computer didn't go well. Anyway, I'm rambling!
You can play it on itch.io if you want and I want to thank everyone that helped me back then, it was invaluable help. If you are still here you can see how it turned out!
https://fatbread.itch.io/disconcerted
EDIT:
I made a trailer gif because I'm a millennial and videos are so last year:
I haven't posted here in a while but I asked for a bunch of advice when I was still boxing in the game mechanics.
Since then the game changed quite a bit mostly on art style and back-end stuff. It works pretty much the same since some of you play tested in a year or so ago.
It went from this:
to this:
That's not the same area but well, you get the point. Also, it didn't start as a tile based game which made me lose a ton of time but refactoring it helped a lot.
I'm never making a full game again. What a process. It's my second game but this one had a bigger scope and man, it was a struggle at times. But well, it's done. I made a crappy trailer too but still haven't published it since it doesn't look that good mostly because recording stuff out of my computer didn't go well. Anyway, I'm rambling!
You can play it on itch.io if you want and I want to thank everyone that helped me back then, it was invaluable help. If you are still here you can see how it turned out!
https://fatbread.itch.io/disconcerted
EDIT:
I made a trailer gif because I'm a millennial and videos are so last year:
They aren't tilt-based, but if you're researching ball games in general, you might also want to check out Ballance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOwfQuPuNM), Rollin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bFDUZc81o), Switchball (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7GDIZluYOU), Nightsky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6OelLBYhh8) and Exo One (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YApVrVPiWv4).
My last game, Road to Ballhalla, was also a ball-roller (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqzvCgyP-3Q), so if you have any questions on that genre, maybe I can help.
Sigh, game deving is rough :lol For the first time in a month or two, all three of us finally got together again, so we could show our third guy all the hard work we've been putting in while he's been away. Everything has been working pretty much perfectly when we've been working just the two of us. But today, so much stuff just broke inexplicably for no reason (well, the crash logs said otherwise of course) and we couldn't really enjoy the fruits of our labor as it's intended. The most frustrating thing is that the stuff that broke today worked just fine just a couple of days ago as best as we could tell. No one has touched the code responsible. One step forward, and two backwards
I just want to say that this isn't a bad thing. Sure the timing is bad, but it's great that you caught all of those bugs. You used your game in an entirely new way and had a good opportunity to document some unknown bugs. Keep your chin up because those are all steps forward.
They aren't tilt-based, but if you're researching ball games in general, you might also want to check out Ballance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AOwfQuPuNM), Rollin (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0bFDUZc81o), Switchball (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7GDIZluYOU), Nightsky (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6OelLBYhh8) and Exo One (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YApVrVPiWv4).
My last game, Road to Ballhalla, was also a ball-roller (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqzvCgyP-3Q), so if you have any questions on that genre, maybe I can help.
Awesome, thanks! Your game looks really fun btw
LordRaptor
Member
I've had this happen with a corrupted asset meta file, and "hard" reimporting all assets fixed it (the "are you sure you want to do this its gonna take forever" prompt one)
literally no credit necessary, but I like that look more too
I'm getting ready to release the Horizon Vanguard Location Test demo (coming next month, a bit later than I hoped lol), and I'm wondering if anybody would be willing to give it a shot before public release via Steam and give me some feedback on it. Oculus or Vive. I don't have the biggest pool of keys at the moment but let me know if you have the hardware and wanna try it out.
Or try deleting the Library and Temp folders from your project
Will trigger a reimport, and that can take a long while, especially if Unity has to crunch textures
MrMysterio
Member
Was spending most of the night looking at the progress bar to see if a reimport will fix it, and it did!
Very happy nothing more serious was going on.
Don't forget Ludum Dare theme voting is ongoing right now. https://ldjam.com/events/ludum-dare/39/theme
Even if you don't make something, it's sort of fun to vote on a theme (though also sort of frustrating seeing the same theme that happened 2-3 jams ago, or the same finalists for the 47th time).
I wish once a year the person running it would just be a dictator and pick an abstract theme that makes people rage and forces them to be creative.
Even if you don't make something, it's sort of fun to vote on a theme (though also sort of frustrating seeing the same theme that happened 2-3 jams ago, or the same finalists for the 47th time).
I wish once a year the person running it would just be a dictator and pick an abstract theme that makes people rage and forces them to be creative.
LordRaptor
Member
I wish theyd delayed transitioning until LDJam.com was at least feature matched to the old webpage - I really have a horrible feeling votings going to be broken again.
I agree on stagnant themes though. Maybe anything that hit the final selection last round (and things that are just rephrased versions of the same theme) should be auto-excluded in the following jam, with winning themes excluded for a year or something
neko.works
Member
Published a new video from Light Fairytale: The first part of the fortune teller cutscene.
Any thoughts?
On YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=9RStcZchfVI
Any thoughts?
On YouTube: youtube.com/watch?v=9RStcZchfVI
MikeHaggar
Member
LordRaptor
Member
I still voted up "Two buttons" just to watch the world burn and make the problem apparent.
If 2 buttons wins I'm going to do what I didn't do when 2 buttons won last time and I kicked myself when I played someone elses entry, which is make a pinball game (never done one, quite like them)
I'm not a big JRPG fan, so can't really speak as to what a JRPG fan would want from your game, but it continues to be charmingly in the mold of JRPGs I did play back in the 16 bit / early 32 bit days, right down to fourth wall breaking character aside gags
I found a good tutorial on youtube last year. It has both smoothing, orbiting movement and wall bumping in all directions including understanding of ceilings and when objects partially block the view with correct adaptations dynamically. In Unity and C# with the complete source code available for free. The guys also explains the maths visually and does a step by step guide over like 40 minutes tops. I don't know the name of it but it was like the first hit on "Unity 5 camera collision system" or something like that. I have no idea why this isn't exactly what my team needs :lol He used a robotic floating torso character to show it off if that helps you. 2-part video I believe.
Yeah, no, this is good advice
We'll fix it eventually, it just caught us by surprise and kinda ruined the day's testing. No biggie, it's good like you say.Got a link? Would love a watch just so I can understand a bit more
I'll show you later if you can't find it. I'm on a train!
Edit: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MkbovxhwM4I
Part 1 I think!
neko.works
Member
This looks fantastic! I love it!
Thanks!
Well, the whole point of this project is to make a retro style JRPG experience with modern tech. So I'm happy that it reminds you of 16-32 bits JRPGs!
Systolique
Member
Last day to rate the GMTKjam games: https://itch.io/jam/gmtk-jam/rate/159096
/plug
I'm actually patching it at the moment for an update sometime next week... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwU8ZReu88A
Anyone else take part? Would love to see some more GAF work
I worked on this game for the GMTK jam as the soundguy, helped a bit with game design too !
https://itch.io/jam/gmtk-jam/rate/159227
Finally fixed the camera and have a much better system in. Took a bit to get it going with FixedUpdate without having my marble jumping all over the place.
Think I will add a few power ups, fine tune gravity settings and I think I am ready to head into full production soon. Friends are not really helping so I think I am just going to do this with me and my fiancee
Think I will add a few power ups, fine tune gravity settings and I think I am ready to head into full production soon. Friends are not really helping so I think I am just going to do this with me and my fiancee
Did my link help you?
Yes it did, thank you!Did my link help you?
Sweet moves! I can't help but ask you if have you used any tutorial to end up with those results? Or did you program it yourself?
I ask because I'm trying to program a similiar-ish movement for our next project and any information I can have is welcome. I've been looking around and I'd like to try programing a system like the one used in Dying light, but that's a lot of work.
So I'd like to know all the information possible before commiting to any choice.
MikeHaggar
Member
New area from Bushiden
Michael Armbrust
Member
"A first-person shooter that plays like an arena fighting game."
What are your impressions after reading that to describe a game?
I'm not ready for my big re-reveal but at the very least I need to remove all the outdated info from my website and replace it with a short blurb of text to tease what's coming.
What are your impressions after reading that to describe a game?
I'm not ready for my big re-reveal but at the very least I need to remove all the outdated info from my website and replace it with a short blurb of text to tease what's coming.
timetokill
Banned
Instant reaction: Overwatch
Immediate reaction: Overwatch (but I saw timetokill's post). Or "yet another developer trying to take advantage of the crowded MOBA/FPS-ish genre like those other games that weren't very popular whose names I've already possibly forgotten".
I'm not trying to discourage you, but that's my honest reaction.
Standing out from the crowd may be tough.Michael Armbrust
Member
Immediate reaction: Overwatch (but I saw timetokill's post). Or "yet another developer trying to take advantage of the crowded MOBA/FPS-ish genre like those other games that weren't very popular whose names I've already possibly forgotten".
I'm not trying to discourage you, but that's my honest reaction.
Awesome reactions. My game is not like Overwatch so it's good to know that description gives the wrong imagery.
It's closer to a true FPS (no heroes or character selection) and closer to a true fighting game (small player counts, combos) than anything MOBA like.
I think "arena fighting" and especially "arena" is bad since that's the A in MOBA.
I didn't think about the Street Fighter sort of "fighting game" mechanics.
Are you doing both shooting and melee combos? Or only combos from range? You might be able to ditch the FPS term and use "first-person" if shooting isn't heavily involved.