Smiles and Cries
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this makes no sense dude. the whole point of video games is 'ROLE PLAYING'
Squids don't wear shoes or shot super soakers
so if you want your Squid to be black you have that option thanks to Nintendo
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Inkling Boy & Girl are the first black non-Mii characters in Mario Kart
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this makes no sense dude. the whole point of video games is 'ROLE PLAYING'
Squids don't wear shoes or shot super soakers
so if you want your Squid to be black you have that option thanks to Nintendo
OUYA POOYA
Messofanego
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TheProphet
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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According to who?
Garrett Hawke
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You're free to do that, the rest of us will not.
TheProphet
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okay. okay okay okay. thats fine. but dont push down other player's throats what you like imagine. if you like projecting yourself onto a character and make them black, thats fine. but dont say that they are definitively black, because other non-black players may feel that they are not black.
Garrett Hawke
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The real fallacy is you pretending that a game franchise which revolves around a comically stereotypical Italian American has nothing to do with "real world ethnicities".
Tanned Characters:
Black characters:
You may perceive those Splatoon characters as black, but truthfully, the Japanese designers who created them did not intend them to be black. Sometimes it's hard to remember that the way we perceive the race of a character in Japanese media is sometimes not the way the Japanese artists intended them to be perceived.
Black characters:
You may perceive those Splatoon characters as black, but truthfully, the Japanese designers who created them did not intend them to be black. Sometimes it's hard to remember that the way we perceive the race of a character in Japanese media is sometimes not the way the Japanese artists intended them to be perceived.
hurricanes
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My mistake then. Sorry.
Mario being black doesn't make sense though. His background is simple but well established. A new (black)character in Marioverse would be much better IMO.
"Hey cool a video game character with a skin tone similar to mine"
"STOP SHOVING YOUR IMAGINATION DOWN MY THROAT"
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Smiles and Cries
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I can see the future, your time on GAF is going to be very short.
If Bish was not retired you would have had a new tag by now
Prototype Viktor
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Hey hey hey that's too fast man! Nintendo will get around to that in ARMS 3
Totes <puts on my hat that's alive>
For real. This dishonest argumentation is tiring
Garrett Hawke
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are you like the inverse Rachel dolezal?
So if a character doesn't have a fro, rows or giant lips, they're not REALLY black.Tanned Characters:
Black characters:
You may perceive those Splatoon characters as black, but truthfully, the Japanese designers who created them did not intend them to be black. Sometimes it's hard to remember that the way we perceive the race of a character in Japanese media is sometimes not the way the Japanese artists intended them to be perceived.
Cool.
Linkstrikesback
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For someone with the username "TheProphet", your myopia is pretty ironic.
Glad I'm not the only one who could only interpret that post that way....
Basketball
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Tanned Characters:
Black characters:
You may perceive those Splatoon characters as black, but truthfully, the Japanese designers who created them did not intend them to be black. Sometimes it's hard to remember that the way we perceive the race of a character in Japanese media is sometimes not the way the Japanese artists intended them to be perceived.
Hey, I'm not the one who drew those characters. This is like people perceiving Piccolo as black in DBZ. It's fine if you believe that, but it doesn't make it true.
Everyone should be pushing for more diverse representations in Nintendo games, because they're sorely lacking.
ElectricBlanketFire
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So some are arguing that the black skin tone options in Splatoon/Kart aren't "really" black?
Looks black to me.
Looks black to me.
mods come collect this child
Garrett Hawke
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You need to view it through Anime Vision, then you will see that the simplest explanation is not the right one and they are actually all tanned Japanese.
Basketball
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We drafted Piccolo in 1998
The irony that this one was actually literally supposed to be ganguro is not lost on me.
Kudo
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Smiles and Cries
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Tanned Characters:
Black characters:
You may perceive those Splatoon characters as black, but truthfully, the Japanese designers who created them did not intend them to be black. Sometimes it's hard to remember that the way we perceive the race of a character in Japanese media is sometimes not the way the Japanese artists intended them to be perceived.
race and diversity is a perception driven thing
Why did you get a tan? I want to look sexy.
Why is Skin Bleaching so Popular in India? Fair skin is perceived as beautiful.
You are trying to explain away something the Nintendo developers would not straight out admit to.
Being a black male, I am well aware Nintendo products are made by Japanese people. Yet it does not mean they are not trying to sell their creations to a global market place.
The Inklings are not just tanned man, let people dream. It is better to say Nintendo has finally started to fix an issue than to just excuse it away as tanning is an inkling hobby
Basketball
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exactly just adding another example to the full appendage/head tan look.
There are lots like this
I just remember her sticking out
Yoshi
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Indeed, they look much better. Especially Yoshi. A black beauty.
Would hardly say that this is a hard rule
Like I don't think Nadia was meant to be tanned for example
It's honestly time for you to stop posting...
You're missing the point of this topic, your opinions are poorly constructed, you're constantly moving the goalpost around to fit your weird ass agenda, and now you're telling PoC to be respectful of white people who don't feel comfortable with 'black' characters in videogames?
Shut the fuck up.
Crazyorloco
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Awesome. Good to see diversity. Good for people to see that represented in games.
Or rather, they are simply tanned characters.
What makes dark skinned inklinks 'black'? South-East Asian? South American? Arab? Okinawian?
The dichotomy of binary opposition of 'black' and 'white' is an Euro-american centric concept, that yes, does exist due to the prevalence of globalization and colonization outside of the confines of these regions, but none-the-less remains a construction of euro-american centric societies.
Diversity can be celebrated outside of the dichomoty of binary opposition that is 'black' and 'white'. Arguing otherwise is not an affront to 'black' representation, but rather an acknowledgement that these concepts are not universal constructs of societal stratification across the globe.
Diversity is good, good on Nintendo, but let us not assign meaning where perhaps there is none.
TheProphet
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sorry that you're offended, dude. i was just trying to participate in friendly conversation
Baron von Loathsome
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They're not even making a gender point, they're making an age point.
What did he mean by this?
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Black isnt a race or ethnicity lmao
Garrett Hawke
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So would you argue that Finn in Star Wars isn't black because he's not from America?
That people can identify with them.
Do you really not get how powerful it is for a person to see a character in a game or movie and go "oh my gosh! they look like me!"?
Black people in this thread are saying they see the black inkling and they feel identified and represented, who the fuck is anybody else to tell them they're wrong?
I think this is where the disconnect is for some
Ninja Scooter
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By being incredibly ignorant and insensitive?
You wrote all of that to say absolutely nothing at all. You could have just stopped at "They are tan characters." and your stance on the matter would have been just as clear.
You're ignorant to the bigger picture, and that's fine. But there's no argument to be had against people who see these characters as black. There really isn't.
Lmao.
Was pretty sure the dark inking skin tones were like these shades in the original game, and all three of these characters are definitely black. Shoot the pink haired one in OP'S pic in the very back looks as dark if not darker than these fine folks. I really don't think it's a tan.
Great Britain, The United Kingdom, etc... are European powers. Euroamericanism includes the British Isles. Finn is a 'black' character and the portrayal of Finn is very much implied so.
I think you need to keep your emotion in check and recognise that not did I disagree with what you have said above.
I'm ignorant of the bigger picture? You're narrowing these representations as 'black' but I represent an ignorant opinion? Attack arguments won't work with me, as you clearly have not comprehended my statement.
Smiles and Cries
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you guys are taking this thread to a whole new place with the anime stuff
these are just anime tropes
you cannot use anime tropes as your main reason for why inklings are not black
the whole point of the dark skinned trope was to have black characters without having to be black characters. This whole mentality is seriously racist at its foundation.
If you read any manga series, which often are the first stage of getting an anime made. You always have the summer at the beach arc with the bikini and tan lines as fan service. But some shows don't wait for that they have a token black character as part of the cast.
Most harem mangas often have one token dark skinned character
it does not mean she is African but she is always dark skinned no matter the season she could live in a mountain full of snow and she is dark all the time. With white hair most of the time.
this has become such a trope in manga you can find a hentai sub-tag for 'Dark Skin' along with all the weird shit that mess goes into
Tan lines are always used for fan service.
If Splatoon was made by Tecmo Koei I could see Inkling Girls with bikini tan lines
I could goggle for fan art of inklings with tan lines and I bet I will find it.
this does not mean Nintendo never meant to have black Inklings
these are just anime tropes
you cannot use anime tropes as your main reason for why inklings are not black
the whole point of the dark skinned trope was to have black characters without having to be black characters. This whole mentality is seriously racist at its foundation.
If you read any manga series, which often are the first stage of getting an anime made. You always have the summer at the beach arc with the bikini and tan lines as fan service. But some shows don't wait for that they have a token black character as part of the cast.
Most harem mangas often have one token dark skinned character
it does not mean she is African but she is always dark skinned no matter the season she could live in a mountain full of snow and she is dark all the time. With white hair most of the time.
this has become such a trope in manga you can find a hentai sub-tag for 'Dark Skin' along with all the weird shit that mess goes into
Tan lines are always used for fan service.
If Splatoon was made by Tecmo Koei I could see Inkling Girls with bikini tan lines
I could goggle for fan art of inklings with tan lines and I bet I will find it.
this does not mean Nintendo never meant to have black Inklings
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Smiles and Cries
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Tanned Characters:
Black characters:
You may perceive those Splatoon characters as black, but truthfully, the Japanese designers who created them did not intend them to be black. Sometimes it's hard to remember that the way we perceive the race of a character in Japanese media is sometimes not the way the Japanese artists intended them to be perceived.
Let me ask a simple question.
Out of all the tanned anime characters posted, has at any point in the series has the character ever lost their tan? Have at any time have they been shown to have to work at keeping a tanned look?
The whole tanned shit is bullshit because it makes it easy for people to accept blackness as tanned whiteness.
I am not giving that shit a pass what I see is one culture exploiting another culture for the sake of sales.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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You need to stop with this passive aggressive bs you got goin on
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