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iPhone X | OT | November 3
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Khaos Kontrol
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Except they are not collecting as the info is stored remotely on the phone.
You can start a class-action lawsuit and earn millions if you really believe that Apple is violating their own privacy policies.
The Futurist
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The simple fact that you need to raise your phone to your face makes Face ID a less convenient and elegant solution than Touch ID.
I don't care what apple says about how well it recognizes your face. The act of unlocking your phone takes longer than it used to and by default that is a worse solution.
Your phone is on a desk and right now you just put your finger on it and it instantly unlocks. With Face ID, you now have either move your face in front of your phone and look down at it, or pick it up.
Right now you can already have your phone unlocked and ready by the time you put your hand into your pocket/bag to take it out.
Paying with Face ID is even worse. Touch ID worked perfectly.
Touch ID will come back as soon as they figure out how to get the fingerprint sensor in the screen.
They will have to keep Face ID around for a few years because even if they get the screen fingerprint reader figured out by next year, they won't be able to go back on such a big new thing they hyped up.
I don't care what apple says about how well it recognizes your face. The act of unlocking your phone takes longer than it used to and by default that is a worse solution.
Your phone is on a desk and right now you just put your finger on it and it instantly unlocks. With Face ID, you now have either move your face in front of your phone and look down at it, or pick it up.
Right now you can already have your phone unlocked and ready by the time you put your hand into your pocket/bag to take it out.
Paying with Face ID is even worse. Touch ID worked perfectly.
Touch ID will come back as soon as they figure out how to get the fingerprint sensor in the screen.
They will have to keep Face ID around for a few years because even if they get the screen fingerprint reader figured out by next year, they won't be able to go back on such a big new thing they hyped up.
Swing and a miss
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The fingerprints never leave the phone. Apple cant get them. Same system for Face ID. Nice try.
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Iirc the 7 units were within a few days prior to launch but after preorders already happened
That doesn't look good
umm.. it would face major civil and/or SEC violations if they were lying.
but you don't care to look at any of that. you just want to drive by. got it.
While i absolutely agree with you and feel like mobile safari should just use black bars in landscape...
... who really uses safari in landscape?! :/
why the hell are they padding both sides? Why is symmetry so bloody important? If I'm paying £1000 for that screen let me use it. "Hey, here is a lovely edge to edge screen. That'll be £1000. Now with a wave of our magic wand, we'll make it look like an iphone 8 with huge bezels"
The video argument doesn't work either - they again pad both sides, so you get a thick border around content wider than 16:9. That isn't a solution I want. I want it right justifed.
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Not me. I dont think anybody ever uses that orientation lock for landscape either. Portrait is king on smartphones
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Hardly. Theyre overall almost the same. 21 hours overall, 60 hours music. But X had 12 on the Internet vs Plus has 13, and X has 13 video vs Plus has 14. Not much difference.
youre not wrong
I don't have any strong feelings toward the notch, but I think Apple is making a poor decision on how to display content on the X.
The Faceless Master
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you want it to be off-center?
Do you know how this compares to 6S+? I love the battery on this, hope it's the same or better.
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I definitely would rather have it just look like there a black top bezel and not have white letterboxing for Safari, instead displaying it like a normal iPhone does as a full screen web page.
It's never coming back.
SoundofSilence
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The very last phone to have it will be the updated iPhone SE next march.
yeah, people need to get over it. Like the headphone jack, it is never coming back. I get that they tried to get it under the screen and couldn't... but there is no "yet" on that sentence. Unless FaceID has just an absolutely embarrassing rollout/launch, or proves to be easily compromised, I can't see a single reason apple would spend further money on trying to get TouchID working under the screen. (and don't even start with the back of the phone.. what an eyesore)
don't get me wrong. I LOVE the shit out of TouchID.. but aside from Craig's phone getting locked out prior to his demo.. every demo I've seen from it indicates that it's here to stay.. so unless there is a security issue there, TouchID is most assuredly on its way out. (RIP good friend. you were a god tier password system.)
if they do an SE, ok I will stand slightly corrected. Yes, anything new in a 6 or 5 form factor will still keep it for now. but TouchID will not continue past the 6 form factor.
Swass
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Hopefully they can jailbreak ios 11.. they seem to be having a tougher time doing it these days.
I believe them for what it's worth. And I have zero reason to think otherwise.
The developer video about designing for the iPhone X says they don't want situations where controls are in different relative locations depending on which landscape orientation it's in (notch on the left or notch on the right), as it messes with people's muscle memory.
The counterpoint is that they bought a company with over 200 employees for $360 million that focuses specifically on fingerprint readers and this group has been constantly iterating on the technology (including patenting an in-screen fingerprint sensor), which has only recently been introduced in the Mac lineup and has been on the iPad for less than 3 years. It seems like overkill to put the FaceID sensors (and the neural processor) on Macs and entry-level iPads.
almost deserves its own thread. So FaceID during the Apple presentation didn't fail. It wasn't enabled. I just read some article re: this - apparently the internet is filled with how the tech failed and how it was soo embarrasing
His "Ho ho ho..." reaction was pretty funny though.
Draconestra
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You sound like my coworkers who blast me for using our on-call iPhones fingerprint reader for easy access and say that all Im doing is letting Apple collect my fingerprints despite that theyre heavily reliant on googles free services.
Its been a while since Ive read the details but your fingerprints are stored in the secure enclave, encrypted and the only thing that the fingerprint reader does is match an encryptions key, and thats it. If that key is lost, say you wipe your phone, those encrypted fingerprints are completely useless now and you need to restart the whole process.
I mean, its pretty damn secure. The information never leaves the iPhone whatsoever.
ISWThunder
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This must be what it feels like when people who wipe standing up were told they've been doing it wrong their whole life. I always surf the Internet in landscape mode. I find portrait mode too cramped and I have to zoom in for links and buttons too often.
Maybe it's because I have big hands, but I'm clearly in the minority on this issue.
Imo that's a dumb argument. People aren't working out where UI items are by measuring the distance from the sides of the phone - they'd be able to cope with a rectangle being slightly to the left or right. Surely a visible and jarring soft bezel would be a worse experience?
touche (though I disagree with Mac... if anything, FaceID makes the MOST sense there. Hence Hello Windows)
I won't even disagree with others saying multiple biometrics is the most secure.. one place I DO see fingerprint eventually making its way to is Watch. It 100% makes sense there as well (under the screen).
we'll see.
Synless
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If any of you complaining about face data are or have ever been on instagram, Facebook, MySpace, twitter, Snapchat, or fucking anything you have no room to complain. Not only is your face data already catalogued in a ton of different angels, but you've likely given away all your friends and families faces too.
Imagine Steve Jobs was still alive, guy probably would have run out of the theater, never looking back.
Complex Shadow
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not really complaining. I don't use facebook, and don't post photos of my face online (mainly because I am paranoid), but I am 100% sure friends and family have given my face data away multiple times. also didn't apple say the face data was stored locally? I am more paranoid about android because thats stuff probably on some google server somewhere.
Very Berry Sunday
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X is much closer to 8 in size than 8+.
X has pretty good battery life considering its size.
The Real Abed
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This is my thought too. I'd rather have that. And just make the time and status always visible (But dim it when watching video or make it appear when you tap while in video) even in landscape mode.Anyone else think this is how apple should have used the notch?
It should look more like a seemless status bar rather than how they're doing it now.
Apple would never do it though because they wouldn't want sideways text, and they want to be able to use those pixels.
FrozenCell
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that 4K60 capture bomba is hard to ignore - could Pixel 2 match it to save Android's face after Note8 dropped the ball?
SoundofSilence
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I'll be very surprised if there's no SE update as it's by far the least expensive phone in their lineup and it's been an important device for making inroads in the Indian and Chinese markets. Not surprisingly, it's manufactured in India.
Zeyphersan
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Amazing
Battery percentage displays in control center now (swipe down from right side of screen).
in "features", Apple has moved ahead of Samsung for cameras this year. Really shocked. matching almost all of note 8 (dual OIS, 7Mp front compared to 8Mp on Note), on top of adding 4K60 and 1080p240, and using HEIF.
Alright. Still abit worse :/
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