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Iron Man 3 is a decent movie

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wachie

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Watching it on TV right now and this is my second watch and it is surprisingly much better than most of MCU movies. Its also much better than what most of GAF would rate it at. It isnt a perfect movie (CG in some places isnt good, mediocre acting from RDJ, some plot holes etc) but overall its really a decent popcorn movie. The OST is also quite good. I think what pissed off some many people about this movie is the handling of Mandarin and the meta commentary about the "war on terror".

I would rate it behind the first Iron Man and before WS (yes WS). I dont know, maybe I just like Shane Black movies ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Frog-fu

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It's a fun movie that I enjoyed, and I couldn't care less how it failed to incorporate The Mandarin properly or whatever.
 
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J10

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Stage a fight on top of a vault full of power armors where you've invited terrorists to come and kill you and don't think to open that shit. I'm not OK with handwaving that kind of stupidity away with PTSD.
 
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SoulUnison

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I prefer it to 2, and I enjoyed the focus on the suits.
I'm not going to pretend - I don't really need an Iron Man movie to have incredible plot or acting - I'm there for the Power Armor Technology Porn, and 3 managed to make Tony interesting to watch independent of being Iron Man while also giving us a cavalcade of autonomous Iron Man suits doin' Iron Man shit.

I absolutely love when Tony commands the suit to protect Pepper mid-missile-explosion, or when he calls the armor back and it jerks itself off of her piece by piece.

I think my biggest issue with the movie was actually when Pepper falls to her "death" at the construction site and Tony is just sort like "Well that happened."
Was he supposed to be shell-shocked? Emotionally numb? It felt weirdly portrayed and like it didn't really bother him much, then she shows up again and he's like "Yay! Moving on..."
 
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Mushroomer25

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It's a fun Marvel movie, and not much more. Solid action flick with some fun set piece moments, and nice character stuff from RDJ. Not Marvel's best, far from their worst.

I have a similar opinion on Thor: The Dark World. Sue me.
 
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DieH@rd

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It is not decent. Its great.

I really enjoyed it. Sure it was the last movie of the original RDJ contract, so they created a weird ending that never got addressed later on when he signed up for more, but rest of the movie was awesome.
 
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addik

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Slightly off-topic and perhaps really out of the blue: Are you from SE Asia? They've been playing the movie here in HBO Asia very frequently (I think it's on right now), and during the few moments where I actually want to watch TV, this has been on.

It's actually quite annoying though, lol.
 
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ZeroX03

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I like it quite a bit. Not Winter Soldier tier but I was surprised at how many Gaffers didn't like it. Certainly prefer it over Guardians.
 
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Gambit

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I love it. Shows Tony is the hero, not Iron Man. Also I love that it feels almost like a sequel to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

Shane Black for Iron Man 4, please.
 
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wachie

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addik said:
Slightly off-topic and perhaps really out of the blue: Are you from SE Asia? They've been playing the movie here in HBO Asia very frequently (I think it's on right now), and during the few moments where I actually want to watch TV, this has been on.

It's actually quite annoying though, lol.
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Yeah, I'm in China (for a month) and relegated to watching movies on HBO.

PLACE HAND HERE FOR BROFIST
 
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atr0cious

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DieH@rd said:
It is not decent. Its great.

I really enjoyed it. Sure it was the last movie of the original RDJ contract, so they created a weird ending that never got addressed later on when he signed up for more, but rest of the movie was awesome.
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What was weird about the ending?
 
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poopninjamvc3mk

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It's alright, I didn't mind it. The Mandarin reveal although funny is still a kick to the junk for me although the marvel one shot kinda made it better especially if they go somewhere with it...which they probably won't least for a while.

Besides that main villain is just meh,all iron man armor made of twigs, the forced loveable kid helps saves the day aspect(where the hell were his parents again?), some really bad dialouge at times,uneven tone, and a lot more

I still enjoyed it more than Dark Knight Returns for some reason.


Edit: Almost forgot, Tony is ever hardly in the damn suit and at one point just turns into Sam Fisher Solid Snake Jr and starts infiltrating shit. I'm still 50/50 on that.
 
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Tertullian

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Frog-fu said:
It's a fun movie that I enjoyed, and I couldn't care less how it failed to incorporate The Mandarin properly or whatever.
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Upon reflection, I actually think the Mandarin plot twist is problematic for the movie. Not because of any loyalty to the comics version of the Mandarin. Lord no; I've never read an Iron Man comic in my life, and the comics Mandarin seems really really dumb.

No, it's a structural problem. The first half of the movie does a really effective job of building up this shadowy villain, who seems genuinely interesting, and appears to have the cryptic beginnings of a coherent ideology. He's well-acted and threatening and feels like he's going to be the first great Iron Man villain in the MCU. Then they throw all that away on a joke. A really funny joke, and one that I was very taken with at the time. But it's just a joke, and it trashes all that foreshadowing for no long-term gain. The interesting villain is discarded, and as is typical of the Iron Man movies, we are stuck with a boring nonentity of a villain that you can't remember 5 minutes after walking out of the theater. In this case it was... some guy with tattoos? Named Adrian, or something? Honestly, I can't even remember; that's how incredibly boring he was.

Alas, it seems RDJ will never get a memorable villain to defeat in his own franchise.
 
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alexandros

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Tertullian said:
Upon reflection, I actually think the Mandarin plot twist is problematic for the movie. Not because of any loyalty to the comics version of the Mandarin. Lord no; I've never read an Iron Man comic in my life, and the comics Mandarin seems really really dumb.

No, it's a structural problem. The first half of the movie does a really effective job of building up this shadowy villain, who seems genuinely interesting, and appears to have the cryptic beginnings of a coherent ideology. He's well-acted and threatening and feels like he's going to be the first great Iron Man villain in the MCU. Then they throw all that away on a joke. A really funny joke, and one that I was very taken with at the time. But it's just a joke, and it trashes all that foreshadowing for no long-term gain. The interesting villain is discarded, and as is typical of the Iron Man movies, we are stuck with a boring nonentity of a villain that you can't remember 5 minutes after walking out of the theater. In this case it was... some guy with tattoos? Named Adrian, or something? Honestly, I can't even remember; that's how incredibly boring he was.

Alas, it seems RDJ will never get a memorable villain to defeat in his own franchise.
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Yup. The problem isn't the twist itself but the stuff that follow it.
 
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Random17

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I felt like Iron Man 1 was a great origin story, with a good balance between Tony and the Iron Man suits.

Iron Man 3 was a nice change with Tony's technology being unreliable... but Iron Man 2 was also a Tony Stark orientated movie more than an Iron Man one. It was boring to have that two times in a row.
 
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DieH@rd

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atr0cious said:
What was weird about the ending?
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He retired. In the next RDJ appearance in the MCU [Avengers 2], his retirement is totally ignored. They gave no explanation why he is back using Iron Man suits and fighting.

In IM3 ending was good, but looking at it after Avengers 2, it looks weird.
 
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wachie

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DieH@rd said:
He retired. In the next RDJ appearance in the MCU [Avengers 2], his retirement is totally ignored. They gave no explanation why he is back using Iron Man suits and fighting.

In IM3 ending was good, but looking at it after Avengers 2, it looks weird.
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Pepper also has super powers now but wasnt she doing pretty much nothing in her later appearances in MCU? I dont even remember seeing her much in AoU.
 
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ninjabat

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For me it was the worst ironman movie. The first film is still the best. Will be skipping the thor and ironman movies from now on in cinema.

Sticking to Captain America, guardians, captain marvel, black panther and inhumans.
 
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atr0cious

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Tertullian said:
Named Adrian, or something? Honestly, I can't even remember; that's how incredibly boring he was.

Alas, it seems RDJ will never get a memorable villain to defeat in his own franchise.
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Meh, I thought the point was that was all a joke. That it was all because some dude was butt hurt instead of a huge major plot, and my boy's name is the Mandarin. And does Iron Man really have any good villains? Honest question, never read his stuff.

poopninjamvc3mk said:
I still enjoyed it more than Dark Knight Returns for some reason.
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The plot had a logical ending instead of thematic one.
Edit: Almost forgot, Tony is ever hardly in the damn suit and at one point just turns into Sam Fisher Solid Snake Jr and starts infiltrating shit. I'm still 50/50 on that.
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He says it all the time. He is Iron Man. The point of the movie was for him to stop using the suits as security blankets, something he still didn't actually learn from apparently in Ultron. Why would he be a do nothing out of it? It was pretty much Riddick, just him getting back to his roots and fighting through old issues.
 
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SoulUnison

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wachie said:
Pepper also has super powers now but wasnt she doing pretty much nothing in her later appearances in MCU? I dont even remember seeing her much in AoU.
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I don't think she was in AoU at all. There was a scene near the beginning where they lampshaded her and Jane Foster not being around for the movie.
 
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ZackieChan

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addik said:
Slightly off-topic and perhaps really out of the blue: Are you from SE Asia? They've been playing the movie here in HBO Asia very frequently (I think it's on right now), and during the few moments where I actually want to watch TV, this has been on.

It's actually quite annoying though, lol.
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This made me laugh, because it was the first thing I thought when I opened the thread. Just watched it last night with Thai dubbing in Nakhonphanom, Thailand.

Great movie. The hate that it gets really puzzles me. The real villain isnt amazing, but that's common with these movies. I thought everything else was awesome.

Love me some James Badge Dale (bring back Rubicon!) And Kingsley is having so much fun in the role. It is odd that people complain constantly about how all Marvel movies are the same, but they release this unique film and so many people hate it.
 
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wachie said:
Pepper also has super powers now but wasnt she doing pretty much nothing in her later appearances in MCU? I dont even remember seeing her much in AoU.
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I thought she lost her powers at the end of the movie.

Tertullian said:
Upon reflection, I actually think the Mandarin plot twist is problematic for the movie. Not because of any loyalty to the comics version of the Mandarin. Lord no; I've never read an Iron Man comic in my life, and the comics Mandarin seems really really dumb.

No, it's a structural problem. The first half of the movie does a really effective job of building up this shadowy villain, who seems genuinely interesting, and appears to have the cryptic beginnings of a coherent ideology. He's well-acted and threatening and feels like he's going to be the first great Iron Man villain in the MCU. Then they throw all that away on a joke. A really funny joke, and one that I was very taken with at the time. But it's just a joke, and it trashes all that foreshadowing for no long-term gain. The interesting villain is discarded, and as is typical of the Iron Man movies, we are stuck with a boring nonentity of a villain that you can't remember 5 minutes after walking out of the theater. In this case it was... some guy with tattoos? Named Adrian, or something? Honestly, I can't even remember; that's how incredibly boring he was.

Alas, it seems RDJ will never get a memorable villain to defeat in his own franchise.
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Yeah...they really could have handled that better.

SoulUnison said:
I prefer it to 2, and I enjoyed the focus on the suits.
I'm not going to pretend - I don't really need an Iron Man movie to have incredible plot or acting - I'm there for the Power Armor Technology Porn, and 3 managed to make Tony interesting to watch independent of being Iron Man while also giving us a cavalcade of autonomous Iron Man suits doin' Iron Man shit.
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So glad it gave us this baby:
IronGemini_004.JPG


even if its supposed post credit debut was scrapped.
 
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ZackieChan

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wachie said:
Pepper also has super powers now but wasnt she doing pretty much nothing in her later appearances in MCU? I dont even remember seeing her much in AoU.
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She wasn't in AOU and I think they removed her super powers at the end of the film. He says the doctors did it, I believe.

The lack of communication (or ignoring of the film by Whedon) is very odd, especially considering all of the extra-universal buildup tangents that AOU takes.


Also, I think the credits sequence in IM3 might be the hypest thing I've ever seen.
 
SoulUnison

SoulUnison

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ZackieChan said:
She wasn't in AOU and I think they removed her super powers at the end of the film. He says the doctors did it, I believe.

The lack of communication (or ignoring of the film by Whedon) is very odd, especially considering all of the extra-universal buildup tangents that AOU takes.


Also, I think the credits sequence in IM3 might be the hypest thing I've ever seen.
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Come to think of it, what was the point of introducing "Extremis" if it had nothing to do with Tony and his suits and didn't even give people random powers?
It just made people really hot and/or explode-y.

Mandarin wasn't the only "In Name Only" issue with the movie, I guess.
 
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