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Is it safe to say that Alpha was the worst series in mainline Street Fighter?
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Riposte
Member
EX isn't mainline.
Zero/Alpha is actually pretty great and a major milestone for the overall series, if not genre. I think more the III games are worse, if that matters, and IV isn't anything special relative to its contemporaries.
Alpha 3 and 3rd Strike would probably shine brighter if they got as many opportunities to be balanced as IV. Maybe II also if Sirlin didn't get too ambitious or controversial.
Zero/Alpha is actually pretty great and a major milestone for the overall series, if not genre. I think more the III games are worse, if that matters, and IV isn't anything special relative to its contemporaries.
Alpha 3 and 3rd Strike would probably shine brighter if they got as many opportunities to be balanced as IV. Maybe II also if Sirlin didn't get too ambitious or controversial.
Haunted
Member
ur the worst
I thought alpha 3 DC was based off upper??
Alpha 3 PS1 was based off Upper. Upper included more characters than the previous releases, and only the PS1 and PS2 Anthology release have those.
Moon_frogger
Member
Came here to say this. Third strike is not just the best street fighter game, it's the best fighting game of all time.
Upper wasn't out yet. Alpha ps1 is arcade with additional characters, upper is based off the ps1 version, I believe.
Dreamcast version is upper.
hokagespit
Member
alpha 3 is my favorite . i have a psone to this day just because of the enjoyment alpha 3 brings me and some of my buds.
Ragingnight
Member
honestly. 3s would of been a better game if it had none of the typical SF characters and went will all new characters.
Chun, Ken, Ryu, and akuma shouldn't have been in the game. Then make yun's super meter larger and the game would be more fun.
Fighting Chun was super stupid and I thought Ken was stupid as well.
Chun, Ken, Ryu, and akuma shouldn't have been in the game. Then make yun's super meter larger and the game would be more fun.
Fighting Chun was super stupid and I thought Ken was stupid as well.
Glorified G
Member
It's safe to say in your opinion. But I heavily disagree with it. Alpha is the best in the series IMO and Alpha 3 is the best 2D fighter ever made.
thought I was taking crazy pills, thanks
Battle by the Bay. Evo before it was evo.
http://shoryuken.com/2011/09/14/bla...ay-b3-street-fighter-alpha-2-tournament-1996/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...twIwAQ&usg=AFQjCNGqeBjUHDlx7Fyn8s0us13NpXfieA
People saying these games had no competitive presence are making me lol. Alpha series was popular before the internet made it easy to have exposure for videogames.
BluePigGanon
Member
Not even close to "safe to say"!
ST and 3rd Strike too, and they are still played. Where are the tournaments of alpha series nowadays?
Dunno? Alpha 3 is pretty broken at high level. Don't know why we don't see more alpha 2. Don't see many cvs2 tourneys, and that is one of the best fighters ever.
Don't see how not having tourneys today invalidates their popularity at and past the time of release
Also sf3 wasn't played at release. Game didn't pick up until the third iteration and alpha 3 waning in popularity.
There would be a 1on1 on the 5.25 at a-cho.
Phoenix Fang
Banned
EX2+ was just godly. Wish they brought the characters back (damn u Arika!). I mean, just look at Garuda. Badass!
There was nothing really boss about him. He was the Street Fighter version of Bishamon design wise and to a lesser extent Sodom.
Edit: my bad mistaking it for Max.
That guy, though.
I remember watching this for the first time. I live how far fighters have come, but sometimes miss being surprised at new tech.
Also, the a2 versus guide is still amazing.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
SFA3U Naomi is based off of SFA3 Dreamcast. They're pretty close.
Keep in mind that SFA3 was actually released after SF3:NG, and the 1998 Street Fighter championships used SFA3. SFA3 was more popular than SF3 competitively for several years.
High-level play in SFA3 eventually got pretty convoluted, and the CVS series seemed to take its spot. SF3:3S eventually built up a userbase that appreciated that game for what it is.
There is no "worst series," just bad game entries. And the award for worst entry goes to Street Fighter 1, of course!
I'd also nominate EX3. Definite rushed entry and weakest in that series. Arika should have just gotten Fighting Layer ported to the PS2 instead.
I'd also nominate EX3. Definite rushed entry and weakest in that series. Arika should have just gotten Fighting Layer ported to the PS2 instead.
abstract alien
Member
EX is much better than the slop that is know as Alpha. Glad some of the good characters got into SF4, as that game is a loose mess. By Street Fighter standards anyway.
Paracelsus
Member
World Tour does that, yeah.
Neff
Member
IV, easily.
Slow, flowchart-y, with a community playstyle plagued by achingly predictable Focus abuse and dialed combos. It's not a bad series but it's far from a good one, relatively speaking.
II, III, EX and Zero all represent better incarnations of SF imo.
SFI doesn't count. It barely exists.
Slow, flowchart-y, with a community playstyle plagued by achingly predictable Focus abuse and dialed combos. It's not a bad series but it's far from a good one, relatively speaking.
II, III, EX and Zero all represent better incarnations of SF imo.
SFI doesn't count. It barely exists.
KojiKnight
Member
SF EX+A was my favorite PS1 fighter by leaps and bounds... but yeah, not a popular game.
stn
Member
If I had to separate the games:
ELITE: ST/HDR
Very stable engine. All play styles can be strong. Rewards footsies, rewards offense, and rewards smart defense. I feel like every beginner to SF should at least try ST to learn a solid ground-game that is not reliant on gimmicks. It does have some BS--Hawk's OS setups, for example--but the strength of zoning keeps players very honest. You really have to learn how to "get in" to survive in this game.
GREAT: CVS2, Alpha 2, SFxT, 3S
I feel all these games reward footsies and smart play. Though some of the games favor one playstyle over another (i.e. rushdown over everything) but they are still fundamentally sound. There is some BS to be found in some of these games (CVS Blanka, 3S Chun) but the core of each game is rooted on a solid foundation.
GOOD: AE
Rewards fundamentals but not as much as the other games (ex. AA's trading, random focus crumple to beat pokes). Has some very honest characters but also has its share of flowcharting, tons of jumping, and dial-a-offense. Does not offer a very good risk-reward for initiating offense since it gives the defender MANY options. Its a solid game but I feel it places much more emphasis on memorizing setups and learning how to tech over learning spacing and AA'ing.
DECENT: A3
I love everything about A3. Except the fact that it has a ton of infinites. Take those away and this game shoots up the rankings easily. I love playing it, love the roster, and love the music. But I have to recognize how much infinites hinder the play.
ELITE: ST/HDR
Very stable engine. All play styles can be strong. Rewards footsies, rewards offense, and rewards smart defense. I feel like every beginner to SF should at least try ST to learn a solid ground-game that is not reliant on gimmicks. It does have some BS--Hawk's OS setups, for example--but the strength of zoning keeps players very honest. You really have to learn how to "get in" to survive in this game.
GREAT: CVS2, Alpha 2, SFxT, 3S
I feel all these games reward footsies and smart play. Though some of the games favor one playstyle over another (i.e. rushdown over everything) but they are still fundamentally sound. There is some BS to be found in some of these games (CVS Blanka, 3S Chun) but the core of each game is rooted on a solid foundation.
GOOD: AE
Rewards fundamentals but not as much as the other games (ex. AA's trading, random focus crumple to beat pokes). Has some very honest characters but also has its share of flowcharting, tons of jumping, and dial-a-offense. Does not offer a very good risk-reward for initiating offense since it gives the defender MANY options. Its a solid game but I feel it places much more emphasis on memorizing setups and learning how to tech over learning spacing and AA'ing.
DECENT: A3
I love everything about A3. Except the fact that it has a ton of infinites. Take those away and this game shoots up the rankings easily. I love playing it, love the roster, and love the music. But I have to recognize how much infinites hinder the play.
Yekshemesh
Member
Alpha 2 and 3 are some of my favorite Street Fighters of all time. That double battle with Ryu and Ken vs Akuma in the rainy field..... so good.