unknownhero
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I concur.
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Is there a consensus on who the best Bond is? Is it Daniel Craig?
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I concur.
Bobby Roberts
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This thread's made it kinda clear there's no real consensus.There used to be a pretty firm argument for Connery. Still is. But he's no longer as close to consensus as he was for a couple decades there.
I think Casino Royale being the best Bond film is closer to consensus than either Connery or Craig as Best Bond is, at this point.
I think the closest you'll get to generally acknowledged agreement regarding a Bond opinion is that Lazenby was dumb as rocks for bailing after one role, and Moore stayed way too fucking long.
Outside of those two, everything else is up for healthy debate.
1) Craig
2) Dalton
3) Connery
4) Brosnan
5) Lazenby
6) Moore
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But that's the correct ranking order.
I think Casino Royale being the best Bond film is closer to consensus than either Connery or Craig as Best Bond is, at this point.
I think the closest you'll get to generally acknowledged agreement regarding a Bond opinion is that Lazenby was dumb as rocks for bailing after one role, and Moore stayed way too fucking long.
Outside of those two, everything else is up for healthy debate.
1) Craig
2) Dalton
3) Connery
4) Brosnan
5) Lazenby
6) Moore
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But that's the correct ranking order.
Sapphire Dreams
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Dalton was the best Bond to date, nothing ever topped his performance.
I wish he had made more movies.
I wish he had made more movies.
...is the only sane response to this question.
Freddy=Legend
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Dalton for sure. License to Kill sold it for me.
Brosnan is the one I grew up with so he'll always be #2.
Connery, Moore, & Lazenby were are good to serviceable at times. But I think Craig is awful. His are the only Bond films I could careless about & hope he moves on for a new actor.
Brosnan is the one I grew up with so he'll always be #2.
Connery, Moore, & Lazenby were are good to serviceable at times. But I think Craig is awful. His are the only Bond films I could careless about & hope he moves on for a new actor.
Fudgepuppy
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Moore is a buffoon, Connery is two dimensional, Craig is good in Royale, Lazenby is flat, Brosnan and Dalton are how I always imagine Bond.
Bobby Roberts
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When people suddenly started considering Skyfall & Casino Royale top-tier Bond films.
The Bond in those films is going to be considered one of the best, if not the best Bonds.
Connery isn't considered the Best Bond because of fuckin Diamonds are Forever, You Only Live Twice, and Thunderball, for example.
Pamplemousse
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Roger Moore. Campy Bond > Serious Bond
OneEightZero
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Pierce is my fav.
Pierce is the Bond who I felt best evoked what Bond is supposed to be.
It's too bad the majority of the plots of his movies don't use that evocation effectively.
The Real Abed
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Pierce Brosnan in GoldenEye is all I need.
First post is accurate.
1. Sean Connery - He is James Bond, all other Bonds are derived in some form from his portrayal.
2. Timothy Dalton - My person favorite, but with only 2 movies I can't really put him at #1. He was the dark gritty bond years before Daniel Craig and he did it better.
3. Daniel Craig - A solid facsimile of the Dalton formula, though his batting average for quality movies is pretty low.
4. George Lazenby - He only got one kick at the can, but he was a solid Bond. I think if they let him continue he'd be remembered more fondly.
5. Roger Moore - A much goofier Bond then the rest but his portrayal of Bond was pretty unique and fun in it's own right. He played the character for far too long though.
6. Pierce Brosnan - Bleh. Had neither the wit of Moore nor the edge of Dalton. He was just this bland mishmash of styles that had no defining characteristics. He was always just sort of *there* in his movies, but was never memorable or interesting. Also his movies are some of the worst in the franchise.
2. Timothy Dalton - My person favorite, but with only 2 movies I can't really put him at #1. He was the dark gritty bond years before Daniel Craig and he did it better.
3. Daniel Craig - A solid facsimile of the Dalton formula, though his batting average for quality movies is pretty low.
4. George Lazenby - He only got one kick at the can, but he was a solid Bond. I think if they let him continue he'd be remembered more fondly.
5. Roger Moore - A much goofier Bond then the rest but his portrayal of Bond was pretty unique and fun in it's own right. He played the character for far too long though.
6. Pierce Brosnan - Bleh. Had neither the wit of Moore nor the edge of Dalton. He was just this bland mishmash of styles that had no defining characteristics. He was always just sort of *there* in his movies, but was never memorable or interesting. Also his movies are some of the worst in the franchise.
Violence Jack
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This.
First post fighting the good fight.
Most of the discussion about the movie was in the GAF threads and the impressions I remember from them were... quite different. I thought I was in the minority for even enjoying it, although I could agree with many things they didn't like.
Bobby Roberts
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There's a weird Bond Cabal here at GAF that locked in the narrative that Skyfall was some sort of bad Bond movie (or a bad movie, period, which is even weirder) fairly early, and it's lived this strange, malignant life over here on OT ever since.
VeryGooster
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Kinda sums up how I feel about his run so far.
I was thinking about this yesterday as I was ordering Spectre, which I wasn't hot on but I already own the Bond 50 set and Skyfall so whatever. I do like what he brings to the character when one of his movies isn't beating it over my head that he's old, he's tortured, hammering on the introspection, etc.
I can understand wanting to differentiate yourself from Brosnan's run especially after what CR brought to the table but I was hoping Spectre would have been just a straightforward "Hey Bond, stop this bad guy" without the "author of all your pain" adopted brothers bull shit or the checking off a fanservice wink on a list every other minute.
And it's funny because if it weren't for the whole getting over Vesper thing QoS would be the closest to that kind of straightforwardness which I guess is why I'm more okay with it than most.
I don't particularly like Spectre much but I do like Skyfall and love Casino Royale. QoS is easily lowest on the ranking. With that said, Craig is a good bond but Connery is Bond.
Sir_Crocodile
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I personally don't feel Craig's ever had a great bond film.
Casino Royale came closest, but all the stuff at the end post-casino was terrible and seemed to go on forever. Skyfall had that bizarre pointless middle segment where the villain got himself captured for no good reason. Spectre & Quantum had no redeeming elements.
Connery easy had the best bond films on average. Dalton was the definitive bond for me thanks to his performance in License to Kill. Brosnan had one great film, but it was Goldeneye, which for me is probably the best bond film full stop.
Discotheque
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skyfall is pretty decent. certainly the most polished bond film ever made. very high production values, and easily the best looking bond film.
plus looking back at it i honestly think quantum aint bad either. in fact i like it more than skyfall. the only legit bad craig bond film is spectre and that's still better than like every brosnan bond flick that isn't goldeneye/tomorrow never dies.
plus it helps that craig has the best bond film of all time. probably 2 in the top 5 for me.
Bobby Roberts
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Hah, shit. Brainfarting Skyfall & Spectre. Posts edited.
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The English Conquistador
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Pierce is my fav.
This. Best of both worlds. Can do the seriousness of Dalton/Craig but has the playfulness of Moore if needed.
PeskyToaster
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For about 10 minutes anyway.
Does Indiana Jones occupy the same spot in the American psyche as James Bond for the English? I'm trying to think of how I want to describe it but I can't think of the words.
FunkyPajamas
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I loved Craig in Casino and Quantum, but I'd have to go with Dalton (personal preference, of course).
I don't think there's a consensus but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority voted for Connery. I liked him back then, but his bond has aged terribly, I'm afraid (again, my opinion).
I don't think there's a consensus but I wouldn't be surprised if the majority voted for Connery. I liked him back then, but his bond has aged terribly, I'm afraid (again, my opinion).
walltowall
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Easily. And played the way Flemming intended. The only thing that cages the brute is a martini and a bow tie.
Fun Bond Fact: Remember that website CraigsNotBond that protested Daniel Craig being cast in the role when his casting was first announced? Well, almost ten years on...it's still going.
Duane Cunningham
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Connery for me, followed closely by Pierce. Bond should be cool, and both of them are. I'm not really a fan of Daniel Craig. He's tough, yes, but he looks and comes off like a big dumb cop.
sixteen-bit
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Idris "Street" Elba
Sir_Crocodile
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I would support diamondsareforevering Craig too.
The Elite
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You're close, and maybe.
The character definitely has some Bond to him. Especially when you consider it came out of Spielberg's desire to do a Bond film. He's different enough to stand on his own though and both have become pop culture icons for different reasons.
There is no other.
Yeah. I don't get it either. Skyfall is a fantastic film.
1.) Craig
2.) Dalton
3.) Connery
4.) Brosnan
5.) Lazenby
6.) Moore
Without trying to derail the thread, which is about Bonds and not films, Skyfall and Spectre are literally the two worst Bond films ever made, as well as being bad films in their own right.
Daniel Craig is an amazing and original James Bond... in Layer Cake, but his actual Bond films are a complete waste of his talents and have destroyed the future of the franchise for me.
I now draw the line at Die Another Day and go no further.
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