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Jay-Z takes to Twitter to damage control Tidal rollout
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lol ouch.
LyleLanley
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I agree, Bandcamp is great for both artists and consumers but I don't think many consumers really care about it.
PhoenixDark
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The streaming market is big enough for multiple players, and this isn't a game where only the top guy wins. I'm on the record as saying I think Tidal will be in a distant third, behind Spotify and whatever iTunes does with Beats. But even that won't be an L, just look at how the market is growing and will continue to grow.
The goal now should be to prove the service is worth it. The problem is that they're fucking up on that front. Releasing timed exclusive songs and videos isn't working, especially in an era where anything can be ripped onto soundcloud.
They should have gone with a $15 premium service instead of $20.
The goal now should be to prove the service is worth it. The problem is that they're fucking up on that front. Releasing timed exclusive songs and videos isn't working, especially in an era where anything can be ripped onto soundcloud.
They should have gone with a $15 premium service instead of $20.
NeOak
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Nah, it was the billionaire artists circle jerk that was the promotion "for the music"
Subpar Spatula
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Artists like Jay Z and Madonna trying really hard to stay relevant.
"Oh, won't somebody think of the multi-millionaires?"
JJDinomite
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Krispy Kreme won. Hold that L.
lol first thing i thought of when I read that.
serenewarfare
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And a lesser music library than Spotify, which is kind of important for a music streaming service.
Plus Spotify has a $5 option for students, which Tidal does not.
Warm Machine
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If the artists want an equitable service in Tidal they are going to have to start pulling their music from competing brands.
LyleLanley
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The fact that he would post that on the internet without realizing why it's so funny is emblematic of Tidal completely fucking up their marketing at every possible chance.
MoodyFog
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Jay is relevant tho
Who need a smear campaign when Tidal is shooting itself in the foot at every chance,
HuskerDutheDu
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Damn you guys are mad about somebody starting a streaming site holy shit
Exactly.
I don't have an issue with the service. I have an issue with how tone deaf every word I've heard about it is. That video linked earlier in the thread encapsulates this.
CaptainofIndustry
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If you have to tell everybody that things are going ok, then things probably aren't going ok.
Jay is. He sells the most aside from like em
but the message!!
I personally don't see any benefits. $10 vs. $5 with my current Spotify sub, 'exclusive content' that isn't worth it unless it starts happening religiously (I'm only interested in SHMG as an exclusive at this point), the $20/mo option for lossless format which boils down to placebo for most audio systems.
In addition to that, the way it's marketed as a social movement rubs me the wrong way, when there's no other message than 'support your artists that are treated unfairly with other services!' Ultimately, I'm going to favor personal value over any type of sympathy towards these bigger artists. Maybe if I see smaller indie acts benefitting from it, I'll reconsider, so I'll have to see if Jay-Z follows up on his promises.
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the hubris delivered so far has been very off-putting for many, combined with the fear that this may lead to exclusive album releases or artists only available on certain streaming services.
I wouldn't say that Jay is more relevant than Madonna. I think their careers are in similar places, actually.
Jay can still sell albums but, let's be real, nobody really gives a shit about his new material, not even him. It's selling power commanded by his legacy.
Likewise, Madonna can still sell out stadiums globally. But it's not like people give a shit about her new material, even though the tours are themed after them.
Both artists have relevance due to who they are and what they've accomplished. But nobody's checking for what they're doing now.
There are so many bizarre things about that tweet aside from the fact that Nigeria is mentioned. If you're going to make up something, at least make up something that sounds real and is beneficial.
I know I bash Jay-Z a lot here, but it's rightful.
Snarfington
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If Daft Punk does Alive 2017 and then puts tickets up early for TIDAL subscribers, then suddenly TIDAL will have a lot of subscribers.
I really hope they don't do that, and can't imagine they would. But it's a scary thought.
I really hope they don't do that, and can't imagine they would. But it's a scary thought.
Yeah, this isn't true with hip hop fans. He's still one of the most sought after marquee features and rap internet stops whenever he cares to drop one, or a freestyle.
PhoenixDark
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It's pretty interesting how much bile you spew at women in your posts. Hmm.
RastaMentality
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LMAO
...really? Jay Z? That man can't drop a hot 16 to save his life these days. He still that hot?
Smear
What am I looking at? Is she trying to seductively sign her signature?
His joint album with Beyonce is coming so we'll see how he performs.
Yes really, and if you were a rap fan you'd know that. he can drop a terrible feature previewed on a french montana cypher and boards will fiend for it all day.
IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!111!1!1!1
Don't know much bout pop these days that's why I never spoke on Madonna.
I'm a rap fan. I'm just not a rap stan in the same way I am with Pop, where you're actively keeping track of artists and their positions within the industry over time. I always thought the general consensus these days was that Jay was respected, but his new shit was terrible and he stopped caring about actually being good years ago.
Hmmm, maybe I need to put on my flame shield and start diving into the hip-hop boards more often...:/
PhoenixDark
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Fiend? Eh...
He has the buzz and clout hence why the world stops when he drops something, but once people listen they tend to shrug and go on with their business; I sense a general feeling that he fell off. At least when it comes to hip hop fans. Obviously he has pop fans excited with turds like Holy Grail.
Magna carta was horrible. But this board has a hate hard on for him generally.
He'll drop a terrible feature and it's a 5-20+ page thread on thecoli or ktt. #facts
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