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K-Pop Fanboy/Fangirl |OT6| Thank You for Love

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ramyeon

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I said damn.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmY6wo3rEso

Park Bo Young released a song for the Oh My Ghostess OST. Is no one else here watching this drama? Tried to bring it up a few times with no response. Legitimately one of the most charming dramas I've seen in ages.

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Holy shit SG Wannabe comeback!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt4fMMCNdRk

They haven't released anything together since 2011 when former member Chae Dong Ha committed suicide.

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One of my favourite indie soloists of recent years, Fromm, also released an MV for one of the best tracks off her most recent album. I think this is one she crowdfunded for recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EacQNsvWuAA

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Wonder Girls will appear on YHY's Sketchbook on the 4th and will be playing instruments live.
 
Dice

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
If those texts are legit... jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

Edit: Apparently his lawyers didn't even deny their truth, but just said they can't be used in court.
 
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luso

Member
ramyeon said:
Dunno why they'd even bother since this comeback has flop written all over it anyway.
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I think the flop status will depend on the bar level. If fans are expecting some sort of revolutionary comeback or a song to be huge hit, with general audience acceptance and charting #1 for days and days in a row, it could be eventually a flop if it doesn’t happens.
If it is set as a comeback from an idol group, after longer than expected hiatus, with regular promotions “results” and a well charted single, maybe flop is not the right word. Of course they carry the WG name and all the history behind them, so let’s see if although WG will be the “talk of the day” on the album release day and nostalgia is thrown along it will have a durable impact or not.
 
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ramyeon

Member
luso said:
I think the flop status will depend on the bar level. If fans are expecting some sort of revolutionary comeback or a song to be huge hit, with general audience acceptance and charting #1 for days and days in a row, it could be eventually a flop if it doesn’t happens.
If it is set as a comeback from an idol group, after longer than expected hiatus, with regular promotions “results” and a well charted single, maybe flop is not the right word. Of course they carry the WG name and all the history behind them, so let’s see if although WG will be the “talk of the day” on the album release day and nostalgia is threw along it will have a durable impact or not.
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I was being sarcastic.

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T-ara teasers on Jiyeon's Instagram. Sounds okay.

https://instagram.com/p/5yZnn5LEwN/?taken-by=jiyeon2__

https://instagram.com/p/5yZo0vLEwO/?taken-by=jiyeon2__
 
Dice

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
So KBS world blocks their normal youtube stream in the US, but KBS World Latino plays fine. It's interesting watching a historical kdrama with spanish dub.

Now brace yourself.

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ramyeon

Member
I'm LTTP on the new season of The Genius. Just watched the first episode, it's so good. I love that all the best members of the cast so far are back for this final season.
 
F0rneus

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
crimzonflame said:
Is it true they bullied one of their members so bad that she had to quit? Sorry Im new here.
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Not really. It's very complicated. Basically they added a new member to the group after they debuted (Hwayoung) and she apparently didn't get along with the old members very well. After she was supposedly hurt and didn't dance during a performance, the other members called her out on Twitter (except Qri) and it caused a huge uproar. The "bullying" stuff is completely made-up shit by k-netz mostly. Was she possibly bullied? Yes. But the stuff the k-netz were bringing up was complete fallacies and cuts from variety shows, that when taken in context weren't about bullying Hwayoung.

Fact is, the scandal shot their career down. They are nothing in their home country now but still very popular in Asia. Since you are new to k-pop, you need to know this: Korea's a very conservative country and very patriarchal. Women can be destroyed in one scandal, even if it's not true. Men can literally get away with murder (I shit you not.), drugs, sex, everything and their careers go super well. G-Dragon does drugs like a champion, and no one cares...But Park Bom takes a drug which she had a prescription for? Evil bitch needs to reflect! Notice we never saw her in a year now? Notice how 2NE1 went from top girl group to...well missing persons? Yeah.
 
Dice

Dice

Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
F0rneus said:
Notice how 2NE1 went from top girl group to...well missing persons? Yeah.
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As if going down the shitter musically for 2 years had nothing to do with it...

But yeah, dudes get away with anything. I bet Kim Hyun Joong will do just fine.
 
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superseohyun

Member
ramyeon said:
I said damn.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmY6wo3rEso

Park Bo Young released a song for the Oh My Ghostess OST. Is no one else here watching this drama? Tried to bring it up a few times with no response. Legitimately one of the most charming dramas I've seen in ages.

---

Holy shit SG Wannabe comeback!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt4fMMCNdRk

They haven't released anything together since 2011 when former member Chae Dong Ha committed suicide.

---

One of my favourite indie soloists of recent years, Fromm, also released an MV for one of the best tracks off her most recent album. I think this is one she crowdfunded for recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EacQNsvWuAA

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Wonder Girls will appear on YHY's Sketchbook on the 4th and will be playing instruments live.
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yes it is the best. characters are well acted and likeable. story is fun and engaging. Park Bo Young did really well in this drama.
 
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ramyeon

Member
F0rneus said:
Not really. It's very complicated. Basically they added a new member to the group after they debuted (Hwayoung) and she apparently didn't get along with the old members very well. After she was supposedly hurt and didn't dance during a performance, the other members called her out on Twitter (except Qri) and it caused a huge uproar. The "bullying" stuff is completely made-up shit by k-netz mostly. Was she possibly bullied? Yes. But the stuff the k-netz were bringing up was complete fallacies and cuts from variety shows, that when taken in context weren't about bullying Hwayoung.

Fact is, the scandal shot their career down. They are nothing in their home country now but still very popular in Asia. Since you are new to k-pop, you need to know this: Korea's a very conservative country and very patriarchal. Women can be destroyed in one scandal, even if it's not true. Men can literally get away with murder (I shit you not.), drugs, sex, everything and their careers go super well. G-Dragon does drugs like a champion, and no one cares...But Park Bom takes a drug which she had a prescription for? Evil bitch needs to reflect! Notice we never saw her in a year now? Notice how 2NE1 went from top girl group to...well missing persons? Yeah.
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I mean no one knows what happened. It could have happened, it could have not.

Most Korean kpop fans don't even care about the bullying stuff anymore - the reason T-ara still has a bad reputation is more about the stripping video of Jiyeon when she was a teenager and a whole boat load of iljin related stuff they did when they were younger.

Men cannot get away with everything - they can't get away with dodging military service. See: Yoo Seung Jun, MC Mong etc. Also there are commenters bringing up the G Dragon drug thing in almost every article about Big Bang and drug scandals in general. I mean even Se7en got screwed over by his "massage parlor" visit during military service. Even Psy's reputation went through the shitter because he was making money on the side during his service and he had to serve again.

Also Kim Hyun Joong is fucked regardless of the verdict of the trial. He's public enemy no.1 at the moment.

I'm also going to need an example of a man getting away with murder lol.

Yes, Korea still generally has a culture of conservatism and is very patriarchal. But let's not exaggerate it with all this hyperbole and misinformation.
 
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Kuno

Member
No No Eul said:
I've been reading through those text messages recently released by Kim Hyun Joong's ex...

Asian Junkie describes the guy as an absolutely atrocious human being. I don't know what more I can add to that really.
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This guy... oh man, what a piece of shit. How could you do that to someone? I feel so bad for her.

Kim Hyun Joong: “How did I get stuck with a pig like you who gets pregnant so easily –“
Kim Hyun Joong: “Really you are pregnant freak”
Kim Hyun Joong: “You really can’t be sterile, you can’t”
Kim Hyun Joong: “You don’t even have insomnia ha proves that you’re healthy”
Kim Hyun Joong: “Why did you like to crawl in”
Kim Hyun Joong: “– Ah fuck I’m irritated I’m going to stop thinking about it”
Miss Choi: “– whew :(“
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:(
 
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crimzonflame

Member
F0rneus said:
Not really. It's very complicated. Basically they added a new member to the group after they debuted (Hwayoung) and she apparently didn't get along with the old members very well. After she was supposedly hurt and didn't dance during a performance, the other members called her out on Twitter (except Qri) and it caused a huge uproar. The "bullying" stuff is completely made-up shit by k-netz mostly. Was she possibly bullied? Yes. But the stuff the k-netz were bringing up was complete fallacies and cuts from variety shows, that when taken in context weren't about bullying Hwayoung.

Fact is, the scandal shot their career down. They are nothing in their home country now but still very popular in Asia. Since you are new to k-pop, you need to know this: Korea's a very conservative country and very patriarchal. Women can be destroyed in one scandal, even if it's not true. Men can literally get away with murder (I shit you not.), drugs, sex, everything and their careers go super well. G-Dragon does drugs like a champion, and no one cares...But Park Bom takes a drug which she had a prescription for? Evil bitch needs to reflect! Notice we never saw her in a year now? Notice how 2NE1 went from top girl group to...well missing persons? Yeah.
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Yeah thats a shame. I really feel sorry for anyone involved in the industry. My sister recently saw a documentary on the K-Pop industry and she said it made the industry look really really bad. My sister did say however that the documentary felt like stuff was exaggerated and a case of Westerners just judging another culture.
 
F0rneus

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
ramyeon said:
Gonna need an example of a man getting away with murder though
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Remember the time an entertainer ran over a woman, hid the body in the woods...And still is on TV and on one really bats an eye? Yeah.

And no men, can be called out on stuff. But notice how it's mostly about the military service? It's such a huge part of their culture, I can understand how it's a huge deal even for male stars. But fact is, drugs and massage parlor visits and crooked money...Yes people hated on them for that but they still have a career. T-ara "possibly" bullied a girl, and they are done. Jiyoung cried on a show, and KARA almost died there. Seolhyun drops an egg on a show, and one of the top hosts of the country slapped her shit right there on the spot and people applauded him, and AOA could have imploded over that. I remember the weeks and weeks of hate comments for that. G-Dragon was hated on yeah, but he's still on TV, doing live shows and being the biggest male star in Korea. Bom did a prescription drug and she's been missing for a year.

Let's face it...Men really do have it easier. It's not that men get away with everything. It's that women are disproportionately hated on for much smaller things, and are never forgiven.

crimzonflame said:
Yeah thats a shame. I really feel sorry for anyone involved in the industry. My sister recently saw a documentary on the K-Pop industry and she said it made the industry look really really bad. My sister did say however that the documentary felt like stuff was exaggerated and a case of Westerners just judging another culture.
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If it's Nine Muses of Star Empire...That thing is basically torture porn level of abuse at times. I'll never forget that movie. Director is Korean though, so it might not be that.
 
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ramyeon

Member
F0rneus said:
Remember the time an entertainer ran over a woman, hid the body in the woods...And still is on TV and on one really bats an eye? Yeah.

And no men, can be called out on stuff. But notice how it's mostly about the military service? It's such a huge part of their culture, I can understand how it's a huge deal even for male stars. But fact is, drugs and massage parlor visits and crooked money...Yes people hated on them for that but they still have a career. T-ara "possibly" bullied a girl, and they are done. Jiyoung cried on a show, and KARA almost died there. Seolhyun drops an egg on a show, and one of the top hosts of the country slapped her shit right there on the spot and people applauded him, and AOA could have imploded over that. I remember the weeks and weeks of hate comments for that.

Let's face it...Men really do have it easier.



If it's Nine Muses of Star Empire...That thing is basically torture porn level of abuse at times. I'll never forget that movie. Director is Korean though, so it might not be that.
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T-ara will come back fine. They still have their fans. But like I said those that dislike them aren't doing it because of the bullying stuff, so I'm not sure why you keep saying that as if that's the reason they're disliked by their antis. Even Hwayoung got a lot of flack when it turned out the a lot of the allegations probably weren't true and she hadn't denied them.

Kara didn't almost die, what? Just because you read some translated comments on Netizenbuzz criticising Jiyoung for complaining about doing aegyo does not mean that's what the majority of people think about the group. This is why I dislike Netizenbuzz. I'm not gonna comment on the PMS/Seolhyun thing because it was on a TV show and I have no idea whether it was scripted, unscripted, edited or whatever. AOA did not even close to "implode" either.

Se7en is screwed, Hyun Joong is screwed, Yoo Seung Jun is literally exiled from the country and never allowed back in. Jo Hyung Ki and the hit and run I can't say much about, it happened back in 1991 when I was 2 years old so I don't know enough of the details of exactly what transpired beyond hearsay. It's pretty shit that he still appears on TV though, yeah.

Hell even look at what happened to Jay Park when he was in 2PM. He was literally driven out of the country by the amount of hate he was getting for some stupid comments he made on MySpace as a young teenager (Although thankfully that all turned out to be for the best because solo Jay > 2PM Jay).

Yes, Korea is patriarchal but you're exaggerating a LOT of your examples. T-ara will come back and sell fine, they'll get the teenage trolls giving their song bad ratings on music portals but guess what? Most of the people doing that are teenage girls.

When 2NE1 comes back they'll hit #1 and be as popular as ever too.
 
A

Ashhong

Member
I see you guys still don't post names on the hottest pictures. Why did I even come back here..

im jk. I love you guys. Please post names.
 
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Kuno

Member
Ashhong said:
I see you guys still don't post names on the hottest pictures. Why did I even come back here..

im jk. I love you guys. Please post names.
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here's who's on this page, from the top:

Seulgi (Red Velvet)

D.ana (Sonamoo)

Kyungri (Nine Muses)

Seolhyun / Seolhyun (AoA)

Hyejeong (gif) (AoA)

(BESTie)
U.Ji & Dahye / Dahye
U.Ji / U.Ji
Haeryung / Haeryung
Hyeyeon / Hyeyeon

Absolutely Disgusting guy
 
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Valkerionseven

Member
F0rneus said:
Let's face it...Men really do have it easier. It's not that men get away with everything. It's that women are disproportionately hated on for much smaller things, and are never forgiven.
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Basically. If were only looking at it through the k-pop examples there are so many examples that we can grab to show this. If you look at South Korea in general, then yeah your point is more clear. SK has a lower rating for women's equality (counted through multiple aspects such as business, home life, and laws) than some countries in the middle east which most assume would be more severe. Simple fact a lot of stuff does in fact benefit the men or show how random some of the rights for women are, for whatever reasons be they "because the men need to defend the country, men need to be the head of the household" blah blah blah. Things like the adultery law that was just dissolved benefited the man 9 times out of 10 no matter the circumstances, or even more annoying things like miscarriages a genuine medical emergency for women, need the man's consent to remove the dead fetus.... something that pissed me off since I heard about it.

So yeah, if were just looking at random kpop "scandals" its w/e. When you look at the real news/articles its pretty apparent.

But on a lighter note...

I had a weird dream that I was watching a music show live, and the girl group had their usual hotpants and what not on, and one girls butt pad to make it look like she had an ass fell out on stage lol. I had that "I KNEW IT!" reaction then woke up lol. Wonder which group it was haha.
 
F0rneus

F0rneus

Tears in the rain
Valkerionseven said:
I had a weird dream that I was watching a music show live, and the girl group had their usual hotpants and what not on, and one girls butt pad to make it look like she had an ass fell out on stage lol. I had that "I KNEW IT!" reaction then woke up lol. Wonder which group it was haha.
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My last k-pop dream was about three women (Including Luna Lovegood from Harry Potter, who was me at the start of the dream) who had kidnapped actress Leonor Varela and were holding her hostage in some abandoned military base but were ambushed by 3 robots who slowly walked from the distance into the base, causing (me/Luna Lovegood) to try to escape by climbing some steel rods in the wall, to the ceiling where I hoped I wouldn't be noticed.

Alas the robots were actually Yang Hyun-suk and a boy group with 8 members. He had started his own religion and the 8 guys apparently had received powers. So the "immortal" one climbed up the ceiling and jumped off with Luna Lovegood killing her. But he actually died and the power stuff was bullshit. So Yang Hyun-suk said "Don't worry he will return. Take the body away." But he was dead as a doornail.

One of the members of the group had the power of spicy noodles. Like he had the best noodle recipe ever, and I made it with him. Me, not Luna Lovegood me. I just appeared when I/she died I guess. And Yang Hyun-suk knew he could trust me because I did my best to create the ultimate noodles with the boy group dude.
 
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crimzonflame

Member
F0rneus said:
Meh, they are amazing fun and that's what's important haha. Btw the twins are ChoA and Way. Don't listen to me lol. If it helps you, I missed the facts that there was twins in the group for like a year.
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lol I already know all the members . Im not into kpop or anything, Im just infatuated with Crayon Pop at the moment.
 
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questionmark

Member
ramyeon said:
Men cannot get away with everything - they can't get away with dodging military service. See: Yoo Seung Jun, MC Mong etc. Also there are commenters bringing up the G Dragon drug thing in almost every article about Big Bang and drug scandals in general. I mean even Se7en got screwed over by his "massage parlor" visit during military service. Even Psy's reputation went through the shitter because he was making money on the side during his service and he had to serve again.
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It's weird that you use Mong, Psy and GD as examples of men NOT getting away with it, when I would consider them all examples of men getting away with it. T-ara used to be among the most popular girl groups in SK, but since the scandals, their songs are doing much worse. They still do alright, and still have dedicated fans, but nothing like they used to. Kara seem to have suffered a similar fall in popularity, but while I've heard talk of it, I'm not sure what exact scandal(s) they went through, so I won't attribute their fall to that. But those guys you used as examples, are all still wildly popular, despite knetizens ragging on them. Guaranteed chart toppers. Like you said, NB comments aren't necessarily indicative of the general sentiment in the Korean public, but that goes for both men and women. Can't use comments as proof for men not getting away with it and discredit them when they are used as proof of women not getting away with it.

I do agree that several of the examples used were poor. AOA and 2NE1 will keep doing just fine when they come back (if 2NE1 ever come back that is). 2NE1s absence is more indicative of YGs shitty scheduling than a fall in popularity.

Lastly, I thought Psys military scandal involved him getting some special job or university spot from his father, that lets you get out of military duty, but then proceeded to never work/attend. It's been a while since I read about it, and I can't remember where I read it, so it's possibly all wrong.
 
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ramyeon

Member
questionmark said:
It's weird that you use Mong, Psy and GD as examples of men NOT getting away with it, when I would consider them all examples of men getting away with it. T-ara used to be among the most popular girl groups in SK, but since the scandals, their songs are doing much worse. They still do alright, and still have dedicated fans, but nothing like they used to. Kara seem to have suffered a similar fall in popularity, but while I've heard talk of it, I'm not sure what exact scandal(s) they went through, so I won't attribute their fall to that. But those guys you used as examples, are all still wildly popular, despite knetizens ragging on them. Guaranteed chart toppers. Like you said, NB comments aren't necessarily indicative of the general sentiment in the Korean public, but that goes for both men and women. Can't use comments as proof for men not getting away with it and discredit them when they are used as proof of women not getting away with it.

I do agree that several of the examples used were poor. AOA and 2NE1 will keep doing just fine when they come back (if 2NE1 ever come back that is). 2NE1s absence is more indicative of YGs shitty scheduling than a fall in popularity.

Lastly, I thought Psys military scandal involved him getting some special job or university spot from his father, that lets you get out of military duty, but then proceeded to never work/attend. It's been a while since I read about it, and I can't remember where I read it, so it's possibly all wrong.
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Mong isn't really doing just fine - he used to be everywhere. His popularity and his career are a shadow of what they used to be. Psy repented and had to reenlist to do his service again proper (Also no, the issue was that yes he was neglecting his job - which was a desk job to begin with - but he was also holding concerts and attending schedules during his service period and earning money from it which is against the rules).

I mentioned GD because he was mentioned in the original comment I replied to, that's all.

Kara lost their popularity in Korea because they neglected the market too long, I don't think it had much if anything to do with any kind of scandal. They basically became a Jpop group for a very long time.

I don't disagree that Korea is a patriarchal society - the examples used were just bad (I mean AOA are quite literally more popular than they have ever been at the moment) and it's not true that men can get away with anything.
 
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