Fenderputty
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The far right have been insane for a while. The flames have been stoked for years.
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Kentucky Clerk denies same-sex couple marriage license for the third time
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The far right have been insane for a while. The flames have been stoked for years.
Random Painted HIghway
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Did not know this woman is a democrat. And she succeeded her mother last year who spent 37 years on the job And her son is on her staff? Good gravy. Small town life, smh.
AngmarsKing701
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When did Kentucky secede from the United States?
Fenderputty
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IMO, most of the compelling uses of religious freedom laws are for religions that aren't Christian.
Perfect Blue
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Lady should be fired from her job then sued to oblivion. Jail time is a bit too harsh for me.
AngmarsKing701
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Shy Fingers
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Now the next question. Does she stop before Thursday?
entremet
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Southern democrats are a whole different beast.
Macho Madness
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Party lines on a local level don't mean a whole lot. Especially in the South.
So secret, the history books left it out.
GoldenEye 007
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Democrats historically are the pretty racist, backwards party. Wasn't until the late 50s and 60s until Democrats were associated with civil rights, etc. That obviously caused a split to the party and also allowed people like Nixon to develop a "Southern Strategy" (become racist) for Republican leadership to attract left behind southern Democratic voters.
I wouldn't be shocked to see people still register as a Democrat, but not actually vote with the modern Democratic party.
Hypothetical situation:
Let's say that the County Clerk was a Muslim and denied Christians marriage licenses because they did not recognize Allah as the one true god. I'd wager that Kim Davis, the old chubby lady with the sign, and the rest of their ilk (along with 100s of rednecks and a smattering of the Klan) would be at the front of the line chanting "do your job" and crying about their civil liberties being denied.
Let's say that the County Clerk was a Muslim and denied Christians marriage licenses because they did not recognize Allah as the one true god. I'd wager that Kim Davis, the old chubby lady with the sign, and the rest of their ilk (along with 100s of rednecks and a smattering of the Klan) would be at the front of the line chanting "do your job" and crying about their civil liberties being denied.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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the republican campaigns must be fighting like crazy to get the Clerk on their side.
We still saw that to a huge extent all the way until the end of the last century. Registering as a Democrat was just something that southern whites did, especially when there was still memory of the New Deal and even JFK. The lines started changing around Nixon and finally crossed sometime in the late 80s/early 90s, if I remember correctly.
I wouldn't be the least bit shocked if we find out that her Momma was a Democrat, and that this was a key part of why she registered as a Democrat.
But they do. The god of Abraham is Allah is God the Father, Jews don't believe in Jesus. Muslims believe Jesus was a prophet and is the anointed messiah. Christians believe Jesus was the god of Abraham taking the form of a man
hopefully John Oliver talks about it
pretty much every local level official elected in KY is a democrat. i know quite a few local dems from rural areas in kentucky and holy shit some of the stuff i've heard them say...
It's not really that surprising she's a Democrat. Democratic registration outpaces Republican registration in Kentucky by 40%. That doesn't mean anything when it comes to actual voting patterns, where Kentucky voters vote more than 13-points on average more Republican than the national average.
A lot of the party identity in the South still has remnants of the Solid South.
EDIT: The Cook PVI chart is really interesting for anyone who wants to see the ways in which shifting demographics affect voting patterns.
A lot of the party identity in the South still has remnants of the Solid South.
EDIT: The Cook PVI chart is really interesting for anyone who wants to see the ways in which shifting demographics affect voting patterns.
LegendofLex
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Christians believe that Jesus was also god, therefore (in the Muslim view) they don't believe in "the one true god."
Unless I'm reading it wrong, she's not actually "Wanted" yet. The ACLU is just petitioning that such a thing now happen.
Hale-XF11
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What needs to happen is that she's sued so much money that no gofundme campaign could ever come anywhere near paying it off. Then she needs to be ordered to perform hundreds or even thousands of hours of community service doing janitorial work for the state. Then bar her from ever working in another public office ever again.
Zoe
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The county attorney sent charges to the state last week:
http://www.themoreheadnews.com/davi...cle_d60fbc98-4dc7-11e5-8151-9304eda149f7.html
Here's her response statement for those who want to read it:
don't think she really understands the first amendment or how federal law trumps state law.....
don't think she really understands the first amendment or how federal law trumps state law.....
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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Does this delusional woman not comprehend that the documents she signs hold absolutely no religious intent. Marriage licenses are purely legal documents. LEGAL. DOCUMENTS. You've served for 27 fucking years and no one has ever told you that?
All someone has to do is find people she signed certs for that were previously divorced and all those other rules to show that her execution of faith isn't genuinely consistent even if for some reason we incorrectly assume she has a choice in who she can give licenses to.
she herself is a divorcee so....
also, i don't know if it was mentioned in this thread or not, but she unknowingly signed off on the marriage cert. of a transgendered couple a few months ago.
it's not like she's logically consistent.
Fenderputty
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Why not just step down if you feel so strongly about this? She's intentionally becoming a martyr for her cause. Hopefully it becomes an expensive position for her to hold.
Except that in this scenario, she's the bus driver.
"Doesn't he have a right to say who sits where in his bus? If he truly believes blacks are inferior, don't violate his rights by telling him how to run his bus? Don't like it? then ride another bus!"
Netherscourge
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Guess it's no surprise, but she comes across as self-righteous and pompous. Not going to pick it apart point by point, but she really should resign if she's unwilling to perform her job. Some genuine self reflection (not the ego stroking on display here) would probably be a good idea, too.
OriginofHysteria
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She also does not understand the meaning of the "separation of church and state".
Like literally she's going against that.
Netherscourge
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Is it true this lady has been divorced THREE times and is on her FOURTH marriage?
I thought divorce was a sin to Christians?
I thought divorce was a sin to Christians?
Just about everything is a sin, technically we're not supposed to go to the bathroom.
entremet
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Depends on the denomination. Catholics are pretty strict about divorce, hence annulments.
Some strict Protestant denominations only allow it because adultery, abandonment or abuse.
Sir Abacus
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Evangelical Christiany is a Leviticus buffet. You just pick and choose which parts are personally abhorrent to you and you can justify discriminating against whoever you want.
You just activated the Magnesium Chloride signal.
Just change up a few words, and this could be dropped right into the mouth of an anti-miscegenation clerk a few decades ago.
M1ch04c4n0
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I have heard and read about how "you don't have the right to keep other people from believing!" or that "all these people has are their believes, you don't have the right to take those away!"
Sorry, but when you find someone as delusional as this lady, is not your right to makes them realize how wrong they are, IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION. Believe all you want in Santa, the yeti, ufo, or whatever, but if those believes affect other's people lives, they you have to be bring to earth, kicking and screaming if necessary.
Sorry, but when you find someone as delusional as this lady, is not your right to makes them realize how wrong they are, IT IS YOUR OBLIGATION. Believe all you want in Santa, the yeti, ufo, or whatever, but if those believes affect other's people lives, they you have to be bring to earth, kicking and screaming if necessary.
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