If they want to curate newer indie games, thats fair. Blocking obscure older titles because "nobody would want that" now that is bullshit. They of all people should know better.GOG is good in concept, but they have absolutely terrible curation.
If they want to curate newer indie games, thats fair. Blocking obscure older titles because "nobody would want that" now that is bullshit. They of all people should know better.GOG is good in concept, but they have absolutely terrible curation.
That's not going to happen. Microsoft is never going to put out one of their high-profile games on a platform they don't have control over.We probably are going to have to wait a couple of years until Microsoft gives up pushing the W10 store like they did with GfWL until we see Quantum Break on Steam.
I'm legit curious why anyone would buy a PC game on anything other than Steam unless it were exclusive to that store. Hell I'll go the extra mile and avoid the game even if it were exclusive to Windows Store, Origin, etc
What the store is now does not mean it will remain as is. Software can change. So go ahead keep "shitting" on me, I'm not affended I don't usually align with the negatvity of the internet so I'm used to it.
Its because PC is a more permanent hardware.Its strange how I am not willing to go all digital with PS4...yet the idea of owning a game disc for PC seems archaic to me.
genuinely interested in what makes you think this
Origin actually caused Valve to make a number of much-needed pro-consumer changes, such as refunds.
And the main reason why steam does this now is because origin pioneered the refunds of digital purchases. So in essence, competition exists and we don't necessarily need a walled garden approach.Not really. Origin refunds are only for EA games, it's decent but obviously doesn't compare to what Steam offers now.
And the main reason why steam does this now is because origin pioneered the refunds of digital purchases. So in essence, competition exists and we don't necessarily need a walled garden approach.
It's just Microsoft has a years long convergence plan to combine their devices. If UWP was the only method of apps on Windows 10, people would riot. They are trying to ease you into UWP apps before depreciating win32, and you can call it like it is right now; a way for Microsoft to wall off the open PC win32 standard into a curated UWP platform. Windows 8 was the skeleton, Windows 10 likely was supposed to be the depreciation stage, but windows 8 adoption fell through the roof and MS scrambled to make changes.
I am glad consumers are rightfully opting out of a future strategy where instead of openly modifying your system, you have to jailbreak it, possibly illegally, for it to function.
You can download the executable and install any time you want on any machine you want it on. It doesn't phone home, so you're not beholden to any online service functioning in order to do so.In what way is GOG an open platform?
I started buying from GOG.
Just gonna buy where the games are cheapest.
Its because PC is a more permanent hardware.
We're still too early to see the remains of the PS3 & PS4 network infastructure.
One day , they will cut the network and the PS3 will be a brick, unless you already downloaded all your games or you went physical.
Going physical on consoles is better for preservation.
The other 2% must be from torrents.
Plus PC games are still generally smaller in size.
how do I buy from torrents
Kotaku next month: 98% of Copies of Fallout 4 bought on Xbox One
I disagree, I don't think Origin was a factor, I think it was a way for Valve to tackle their increasing customer service burden without spending money on hiring staff to handle curation or customer service.And the main reason why steam does this now is because origin pioneered the refunds of digital purchases. So in essence, competition exists and we don't necessarily need a walled garden approach.
You act like people are being unfairly negative. You act like there isn't a history here.
The other problem with your stance is that you seem to think that the main problems with the store in particular and Microsoft's support of gaming on PC are merely technical.
They're not. The technical problems stem directly from Microsoft's approach, their decisions, how they feel the microsoft vs. customer scales should invariably be balanced in Microsoft's favor. They're trying to raise the walls of the garden higher all the time. Don't expect anybody paying attention to be happy with that.
The only people who like the taste of that kool-aid are those who haven't been forced to drink it for the past 20+ years.
I'm legit curious why anyone would buy a PC game on anything other than Steam unless it were exclusive to that store. Hell I'll go the extra mile and avoid the game even if it were exclusive to Windows Store, Origin, etc
It's pretty evident that people are talking about DRM aspect rather than the storefront part of the platform.
Not that I mind their storefront curation all that much. Certainly better than trying to browse Steam.
You can download the executable and install any time you want on any machine you want it on. It doesn't phone home, so you're not beholden to any online service functioning in order to do so.
Torrent the steam client.
Sorry, my post was cut by my phone. I am talking about the gog downloader where updates are hard to track and has to be checked manually. You never know if you have the last executable on your HDD.
A full update mod would be a nice tool.
I own more than 500 games on GOG, mainly old games, where updates are quite rare. For new games, I would go with Steam preferably.
GOG has something similar to Steam now with GOG Galaxy
I disagree, I don't think Origin was a factor, I think it was a way for Valve to tackle their increasing customer service burden without spending money on hiring staff to handle curation or customer service.
That said I agree that competition across the platform is vital to it's health, I just think crediting EA with having invented the concept of refunds is madness.
There was also pressure from various countries, especially in the EU, to implement a refund policy.
Not really, Galaxy doesn't restrict you launching game only from it's client. You can install game from client and after that never even open it to play game.
How will MS convince developers/publishers to release their games as UWP on Windows store instead of Steam?
This is a thing that I hadn't thought about from a dev perspective before.Fable Legends was announced at E3 2013, which seemed pretty early to many members of the team. But then, showing your game at E3 can be something of an insurance policy. If your publisher makes a big, public fuss about your game, it’s a show of confidence. Even though the game wasn’t ready.
I'm sorry I didn't join the echo chamber. Nothing more productive in a forum than a bunch of people saying how they all agree about how much something is shit.
What the store is now does not mean it will remain as is. Software can change. So go ahead keep "shitting" on me, I'm not affended I don't usually align with the negatvity of the internet so I'm used to it.
Money in the form of throwing significant weight behind the marketing for the Xbox One versions of games.How will MS convince developers/publishers to release their games as UWP on Windows store instead of Steam?
How will MS convince developers/publishers to release their games as UWP on Windows store instead of Steam?
Cook Serve Delicious has been rejected before and GOG also rejected Degica and CAVE Shmups.
Do you have a link to the last part about Cave shmups being rejected? I'd like to know more.
We've contacted GOG a few times about getting our titles on their platform
Below is an email from GOG from a week or two ago in regards to Mushihimesama. We'll be sending them some info on Monday and hopefully they'll choose to take the title. If they don't, we'll work on releasing a DRM free version via the Humble Store.
"Hi Name,
We’ve discussed Mushihime Sama internally and because we’re so close to launch we’re not sure if we’ll be able to make it for launch, especially because this will be launching around the same time as our Fall promo. We’re also not totally convinced that the game can perform so well for as as it appears to be relatively unknown outside of Japan.
Because of this what we’d like to do is to wait and see how the launch on Steam goes and then see if it makes sense for us to add the game at a later stage.
Best of luck with the Steam launch!
All the best,
Name"
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?p=1143185#p1143185
I kinda find that attitude baffling to be honest. Accepting a game only if it did well elsewhere despite being a known name, even by a niche.
I kinda find that attitude baffling to be honest. Accepting a game only if it did well elsewhere despite being a known name, even by a niche.
To add to the list I also submitted my game Assault Android Cactus a few years back (using their old system) and was never even responded to, they are seemingly a lot more closed than new-Steam (Via how easy Greenlight has become) when it comes to what games they choose to carry.
I find that outrageous tbh. A lot of indie success relies on word of mouth and if major platforms adopt this mindset, a lot wouldn't exist.
This is even more baffling that Assault Android Cactus doesn't even look like shovelware and has some nice production values. It is beyond my understanding about how GoG can afford to refuse such games.
This is why I vastly prefer Humble Store. Giving both DRM Free and Steam key options. The best thing would be if more publishers and indies make their Steam game DRM Free, which is possible IIRC.
Windows Store/Windows 10 exclusive for everything now.
Microsoft will FORCE US!
Yah our Steam version is DRM free, though we also sell on Humble with a steam key included.
Technically our Steam version checks to see if Steam is running when you launch it, but if it doesn't find Steam then it just soft fails all online content that requires an account (leaderboards etc) and behaves like the Humble version. I also hope more developers in general abandon DRM, especially indies.
Edit - It might be nice if you could plaster DRM FREE as a feature too right along stuff like the Steam Leaderboard support and Controller support etc.
I'm legit curious why anyone would buy a PC game on anything other than Steam unless it were exclusive to that store. Hell I'll go the extra mile and avoid the game even if it were exclusive to Windows Store, Origin, etc
I understood that reference.Kotaku next month: 98% of Copies of Fallout 4 bought on Xbox One