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Kotaku: Rare HD collection is coming to Xbox One

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Shiggy

Member
1983
JETPAC (Spectrum, BBC, Vic 20) - ULTIMATE
ATIC ATAC (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
PSSST (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
TRANZ AM (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE

1984
ALIEN 8 (Spectrum, Amstrad, BBC, MSX) - ULTIMATE
ENTOMBED (C64) - ULTIMATE
COOKIE (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
KNIGHT LORE (Spectrum, Amstrad, BBC, MSX) - ULTIMATE
LUNAR JETMAN (Spectrum, BBC) - ULTIMATE
SABRE WULF (Spectrum, C64, Amstrad, BBC) - ULTIMATE
THE STAFF OF KARNATH (C64) - ULTIMATE
UNDERWURLDE (Spectrum, C64) - ULTIMATE

1985
BLACKWYCHE (C64) - ULTIMATE
NIGHTSHADE (Spectrum, C64, Amstrad, BBC, MSX) - ULTIMATE
PENTAGRAM (Spectrum, MSX) - ULTIMATE

1986
OUTLAWS (C64) - ULTIMATE
COSMIC BATTLEZONES (BBC) - ULTIMATE
CYBERUN (Spectrum, Amstrad, MSX) - ULTIMATE
DRAGONSKULLE (C64) - ULTIMATE
GUNFRIGHT (Spectrum, Amstrad, MSX) - ULTIMATE
IMHOTEP (C64) - ULTIMATE

1987
MARTIANOIDS (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
BUBBLER (Spectrum, Amstrad) - ULTIMATE
SLALOM (NES) - NINTENDO

1988
THE COLLECTED WORKS (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
R.C. PRO-AM (NES) - NINTENDO
WHEEL OF FORTUNE (NES) - GAMETEK
JEOPARDY! (NES) - GAMETEK
ANTICIPATION (NES) - NINTENDO

1989
MARBLE MADNESS (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
WORLD GAMES (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
WWF WRESTLEMANIA (NES) - ACCLAIM
SESAME STREET 123 (NES) - HI TECH
JOHN ELWAY’S QUARTERBACK (NES) - TRADEWEST
CALIFORNIA GAMES (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
TABOO (NES) - TRADEWEST
WIZARDS & WARRIORS (NES) - ACCLAIM
SESAME STREET ABC (NES) - HI TECH
HOLLYWOOD SQUARES (NES) - GAMETEK
WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT (NES) - LJN
JORDAN VS. BIRD: ONE ON ONE (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
COBRA TRIANGLE (NES) - NINTENDO
IRONSWORD: WIZARDS & WARRIORS II (NES) - ACCLAIM
WHEEL OF FORTUNE JUNIOR EDITION (NES) - GAMETEK
JEOPARDY! JUNIOR EDITION (NES) - GAMETEK
SILENT SERVICE (NES) - ULTRA GAMES

1990
DOUBLE DARE (NES) - GAMETEK
WHEEL OF FORTUNE FAMILY EDITION (NES) - GAMETEK
JEOPARDY! 25TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION (NES) - GAMETEK
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (Game Boy) - LJN
CAPTAIN SKYHAWK (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
PIN BOT (NES) - NINTENDO
SNAKE RATTLE ‘N’ ROLL (NES) - NINTENDO
SUPER OFF ROAD (NES) - TRADEWEST
WIZARDS & WARRIORS X: FORTRESS OF FEAR (Game Boy) - ACCLAIM
NARC (NES) - ACCLAIM
A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (NES) - LJN
SUPER GLOVE BALL (NES) - MATTEL
CABAL (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
TIME LORD (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
ARCH RIVALS (NES) - ACCLAIM
WWF WRESTLEMANIA CHALLENGE (NES) - LJN
SOLAR JETMAN (NES) - TRADEWEST

1991
DIGGER T. ROCK (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
WWF SUPERSTARS (Game Boy) - LJN
BATTLETOADS (NES, Game Boy) - TRADEWEST
BEETLEJUICE (NES) - LJN
SUPER R.C. PRO-AM (Game Boy) - NINTENDO
HIGH SPEED (NES) - TRADEWEST
SNEAKY SNAKES (Game Boy) - TRADEWEST
SESAME STREET ABC & 123 (NES) - HI TECH
PIRATES! (NES) - ULTRA GAMES

1992
WIZARDS & WARRIORS III (NES) - ACCLAIM
BEETLEJUICE (Game Boy) - LJN
INDY HEAT (NES) - TRADEWEST
R.C. PRO-AM II (NES) - TRADEWEST
CHAMPIONSHIP PRO-AM (Mega Drive) - TRADEWEST

1993
BATTLETOADS (Mega Drive, Game Gear) - TRADEWEST
BATTLETOADS DOUBLE DRAGON (NES, SNES, Mega Drive, Game Boy) - TRADEWEST
BATTLETOADS IN RAGNAROK’S WORLD (Game Boy) - TRADEWEST
BATTLETOADS IN BATTLEMANIACS (SNES) - TRADEWEST
X THE BALL (Arcade) - CAPCOM/BRENT WALKER/TECMO
SNAKE RATTLE ‘N’ ROLL (Mega Drive) - SEGA/TRADEWEST

1994
MONSTER MAX (Game Boy) - TITUS
SUPER BATTLETOADS (Arcade) - ELECTRONIC ARTS
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY (SNES) - NINTENDO
KILLER INSTINCT (Arcade) - WILLIAMS

1995
DONKEY KONG LAND (Game Boy) - NINTENDO
KILLER INSTINCT (SNES, Game Boy) - NINTENDO
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 (SNES) - NINTENDO

1996
KILLER INSTINCT 2 (Arcade) - WILLIAMS
KEN GRIFFEY JR’S WINNING RUN (SNES) - NINTENDO
DONKEY KONG LAND 2 (Game Boy) - NINTENDO
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 3 (SNES) - NINTENDO
KILLER INSTINCT GOLD (N64) - NINTENDO

1997
BLAST CORPS (N64) - NINTENDO
GOLDENEYE (N64) - NINTENDO
DIDDY KONG RACING (N64) - RARE
DONKEY KONG LAND III (Game Boy) - NINTENDO

1998
BANJO-KAZOOIE (N64) - NINTENDO

1999
CONKER’S POCKET TALES (GBC) - RARE
JET FORCE GEMINI (N64) - RARE
DONKEY KONG 64 (N64) - NINTENDO
MICKEY’S RACING ADVENTURE (GBC) - NINTENDO

2000
PERFECT DARK (N64, GBC) - RARE
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY (GBC) - NINTENDO
MICKEY’S SPEEDWAY USA (N64) - NINTENDO
BANJO-TOOIE (N64) - NINTENDO

2001
MICKEY’S SPEEDWAY USA (GBC) - NINTENDO
CONKER’S BAD FUR DAY (N64) - RARE

2002
STAR FOX ADVENTURES (GameCube) - NINTENDO

2003
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY (GBA) - NINTENDO
BANJO-KAZOOIE: GRUNTY'S REVENGE (GBA) - THQ
GRABBED BY THE GHOULIES (Xbox) - MGS

2004
SABRE WULF (GBA) - THQ
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 (GBA) - NINTENDO
IT'S MR. PANTS (GBA) - THQ

2005
BANJO PILOT (GBA) - THQ
CONKER: LIVE & RELOADED (Xbox) - MGS
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 3 (GBA) - NINTENDO
KAMEO: ELEMENTS OF POWER (Xbox 360) - MGS
PERFECT DARK ZERO (Xbox 360) - MGS


The really old games are probably not all owned by Microsoft.

Will probably be more of a SNES & N64 collection - that would be easiest to do.
 
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JigglesBunny

Banned
This literally sounds like it's just a resolution and aspect ratio bump.

I don't really care how many games are in the collection, N64 textures and visuals aren't going to fly on current generation hardware for me.

Obviously a full scale remake i.e. Halo: CEA and Halo 2: A are massive undertakings, especially with 30 different titles, but a simple upres and aspect ratio change isn't really going to pass.
 
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justsomeguy

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
Like what? The only Rare games Nintendo still owns are those that contain Nintendo IP. MS owns the vast majority of Rare's output.
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Hang on... remember this...?

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HYPE.
 
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narton

Member
Aww I just rebought a 360 just to replay my XBLAs of the Banjos and Perfect Darks and other Rare stuff. This may entice me to upgrade though.
 
R

Raide

Member
StoOgE said:
Yeah, but back then the nostalgia for SNES games wasn't as high as it is now.

I mean, I was still in highschool (barely) when the DC released, and was playing most of those games a scant 5 years earlier.

Now I'm an old man, and the promise of games from my Junior High and younger days fills my rapidly deteriorating heart aflutter with memories of long lost friends and I sitting on a couch pummeling one another because one of us was being overly liberal with the definition of "my turn"
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So much this.

There are people posting about this that really don't remember the fun of the Rare days. Maybe too young, too jaded or just never had access to their games.

If this is real, it is certainly something that taps into my gaming life from the past.
 
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dose

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
Nintendo doesn't own the vast majority of Rare's N64 output and a number of their N64 titles have already been re-released by MS. Banjo Kazooie, Banjo Tooie, and Perfect Dark are three that immediately come to mind.
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Err, yeh, but unless Rare have remade all of their n64 games, (or made some sort of deal with Nintendo) there is no way they will be allowed to emulate the n64 games and run them on the Xbone One.
 
D

Diablohead

Member
JigglesBunny said:
This literally sounds like it's just a resolution and aspect ratio bump.

I don't really care how many games are in the collection, N64 textures and visuals aren't going to fly on current generation hardware for me.

Obviously a full scale remake i.e. Halo: CEA and Halo 2: A are massive undertakings, especially with 30 different titles, but a simple upres and aspect ratio change isn't really going to pass.
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For old n64 games I agree but i'd gladly play kameo and PDZ in 1080p using 360 assets, especially if we get a lot of games in a bundle for a normal price.
 
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OrbitalBeard

Member
dose said:
Err, yeh, but unless Rare have remade all of their n64 games, (or made some sort of deal with Nintendo) there is no way they will be allowed to emulate the n64 games and run them on the Xbone One.
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Just like the XBLA re-releases, they would be reworked. How do you think Capcom was able to re-release REmake on non-Nintendo systems, a game built from the ground up on Gamecube?
 
Lynd7

Lynd7

Member
JigglesBunny said:
This literally sounds like it's just a resolution and aspect ratio bump.

I don't really care how many games are in the collection, N64 textures and visuals aren't going to fly on current generation hardware for me.

Obviously a full scale remake i.e. Halo: CEA and Halo 2: A are massive undertakings, especially with 30 different titles, but a simple upres and aspect ratio change isn't really going to pass.
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The Banjo games looked great to me, very clean. But, maybe unlikely to be even that good?
 
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NolbertoS

Member
Randomizer said:
Are any of the people who actually made these greats games still at Rare?
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I think you know rhe answer to that. If all the grear developers at Rare had stayed, I think we'd be singing a different tune for MS this and last gen.

Edit: will still buy this HD collection. Want Conker in glorious HD.
 
B

blakep267

Member
Viva piñata 1-2
Perfect dark zero
Banjo
Conker
Jet force Gemini
Grabbed by the ghoulies

I'd say those are the games

Edit: forget kameo
 
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dose

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
Just like the XBLA re-releases, they would be reworked. How do you think Capcom was able to re-release REmake on non-Nintendo systems, a game built from the ground up on Gamecube?
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Yeh sure, but we're talking 30 games here. Can't see it myself, but we'll see.
 
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N7Commander95

Member
NolbertoS said:
I think you know rhe answer to that. If all the grear developers at Rare had stayed, I think we'd be singing a different tune for MS this and last gen.
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The person who made Banjo is still there, and quite frankly I imagine a lot of the staff who weren't in the limelight back in the rareware era are probably still there too.
 
S

StoOgE

First tragedy, then farce.
How many textures were actually on an N64 cart?

I'm not saying that a full remastered treatment is possible, but given the space constraints that existed back in those days I would imagine making new textures would not be an altogether burdensome task.

For the most part we were dealing with a handful of textures with pallet swaps to save space.
 
Salty Hippo

Salty Hippo

Member
Shiggy said:
1983
JETPAC (Spectrum, BBC, Vic 20) - ULTIMATE
ATIC ATAC (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
PSSST (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
TRANZ AM (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE

1984
ALIEN 8 (Spectrum, Amstrad, BBC, MSX) - ULTIMATE
ENTOMBED (C64) - ULTIMATE
COOKIE (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
KNIGHT LORE (Spectrum, Amstrad, BBC, MSX) - ULTIMATE
LUNAR JETMAN (Spectrum, BBC) - ULTIMATE
SABRE WULF (Spectrum, C64, Amstrad, BBC) - ULTIMATE
THE STAFF OF KARNATH (C64) - ULTIMATE
UNDERWURLDE (Spectrum, C64) - ULTIMATE

1985
BLACKWYCHE (C64) - ULTIMATE
NIGHTSHADE (Spectrum, C64, Amstrad, BBC, MSX) - ULTIMATE
PENTAGRAM (Spectrum, MSX) - ULTIMATE

1986
OUTLAWS (C64) - ULTIMATE
COSMIC BATTLEZONES (BBC) - ULTIMATE
CYBERUN (Spectrum, Amstrad, MSX) - ULTIMATE
DRAGONSKULLE (C64) - ULTIMATE
GUNFRIGHT (Spectrum, Amstrad, MSX) - ULTIMATE
IMHOTEP (C64) - ULTIMATE

1987
MARTIANOIDS (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
BUBBLER (Spectrum, Amstrad) - ULTIMATE
SLALOM (NES) - NINTENDO

1988
THE COLLECTED WORKS (Spectrum) - ULTIMATE
R.C. PRO-AM (NES) - NINTENDO
WHEEL OF FORTUNE (NES) - GAMETEK
JEOPARDY! (NES) - GAMETEK
ANTICIPATION (NES) - NINTENDO

1989
MARBLE MADNESS (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
WORLD GAMES (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
WWF WRESTLEMANIA (NES) - ACCLAIM
SESAME STREET 123 (NES) - HI TECH
JOHN ELWAY’S QUARTERBACK (NES) - TRADEWEST
CALIFORNIA GAMES (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
TABOO (NES) - TRADEWEST
WIZARDS & WARRIORS (NES) - ACCLAIM
SESAME STREET ABC (NES) - HI TECH
HOLLYWOOD SQUARES (NES) - GAMETEK
WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT (NES) - LJN
JORDAN VS. BIRD: ONE ON ONE (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
COBRA TRIANGLE (NES) - NINTENDO
IRONSWORD: WIZARDS & WARRIORS II (NES) - ACCLAIM
WHEEL OF FORTUNE JUNIOR EDITION (NES) - GAMETEK
JEOPARDY! JUNIOR EDITION (NES) - GAMETEK
SILENT SERVICE (NES) - ULTRA GAMES

1990
DOUBLE DARE (NES) - GAMETEK
WHEEL OF FORTUNE FAMILY EDITION (NES) - GAMETEK
JEOPARDY! 25TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION (NES) - GAMETEK
THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (Game Boy) - LJN
CAPTAIN SKYHAWK (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
PIN BOT (NES) - NINTENDO
SNAKE RATTLE ‘N’ ROLL (NES) - NINTENDO
SUPER OFF ROAD (NES) - TRADEWEST
WIZARDS & WARRIORS X: FORTRESS OF FEAR (Game Boy) - ACCLAIM
NARC (NES) - ACCLAIM
A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (NES) - LJN
SUPER GLOVE BALL (NES) - MATTEL
CABAL (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
TIME LORD (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
ARCH RIVALS (NES) - ACCLAIM
WWF WRESTLEMANIA CHALLENGE (NES) - LJN
SOLAR JETMAN (NES) - TRADEWEST

1991
DIGGER T. ROCK (NES) - MILTON BRADLEY
WWF SUPERSTARS (Game Boy) - LJN
BATTLETOADS (NES, Game Boy) - TRADEWEST
BEETLEJUICE (NES) - LJN
SUPER R.C. PRO-AM (Game Boy) - NINTENDO
HIGH SPEED (NES) - TRADEWEST
SNEAKY SNAKES (Game Boy) - TRADEWEST
SESAME STREET ABC & 123 (NES) - HI TECH
PIRATES! (NES) - ULTRA GAMES

1992
WIZARDS & WARRIORS III (NES) - ACCLAIM
BEETLEJUICE (Game Boy) - LJN
INDY HEAT (NES) - TRADEWEST
R.C. PRO-AM II (NES) - TRADEWEST
CHAMPIONSHIP PRO-AM (Mega Drive) - TRADEWEST

1993
BATTLETOADS (Mega Drive, Game Gear) - TRADEWEST
BATTLETOADS DOUBLE DRAGON (NES, SNES, Mega Drive, Game Boy) - TRADEWEST
BATTLETOADS IN RAGNAROK’S WORLD (Game Boy) - TRADEWEST
BATTLETOADS IN BATTLEMANIACS (SNES) - TRADEWEST
X THE BALL (Arcade) - CAPCOM/BRENT WALKER/TECMO
SNAKE RATTLE ‘N’ ROLL (Mega Drive) - SEGA/TRADEWEST

1994
MONSTER MAX (Game Boy) - TITUS
SUPER BATTLETOADS (Arcade) - ELECTRONIC ARTS
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY (SNES) - NINTENDO
KILLER INSTINCT (Arcade) - WILLIAMS

1995
DONKEY KONG LAND (Game Boy) - NINTENDO
KILLER INSTINCT (SNES, Game Boy) - NINTENDO
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 (SNES) - NINTENDO

1996
KILLER INSTINCT 2 (Arcade) - WILLIAMS
KEN GRIFFEY JR’S WINNING RUN (SNES) - NINTENDO
DONKEY KONG LAND 2 (Game Boy) - NINTENDO
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 3 (SNES) - NINTENDO
KILLER INSTINCT GOLD (N64) - NINTENDO

1997
BLAST CORPS (N64) - NINTENDO
GOLDENEYE (N64) - NINTENDO
DIDDY KONG RACING (N64) - RARE
DONKEY KONG LAND III (Game Boy) - NINTENDO

1998
BANJO-KAZOOIE (N64) - NINTENDO

1999
CONKER’S POCKET TALES (GBC) - RARE
JET FORCE GEMINI (N64) - RARE
DONKEY KONG 64 (N64) - NINTENDO
MICKEY’S RACING ADVENTURE (GBC) - NINTENDO

2000
PERFECT DARK (N64, GBC) - RARE
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY (GBC) - NINTENDO
MICKEY’S SPEEDWAY USA (N64) - NINTENDO
BANJO-TOOIE (N64) - NINTENDO

2001
MICKEY’S SPEEDWAY USA (GBC) - NINTENDO
CONKER’S BAD FUR DAY (N64) - RARE

2002
STAR FOX ADVENTURES (GameCube) - NINTENDO

2003
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY (GBA) - NINTENDO
BANJO-KAZOOIE: GRUNTY'S REVENGE (GBA) - THQ
GRABBED BY THE GHOULIES (Xbox) - MGS

2004
SABRE WULF (GBA) - THQ
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 (GBA) - NINTENDO
IT'S MR. PANTS (GBA) - THQ

2005
BANJO PILOT (GBA) - THQ
CONKER: LIVE & RELOADED (Xbox) - MGS
DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 3 (GBA) - NINTENDO
KAMEO: ELEMENTS OF POWER (Xbox 360) - MGS
PERFECT DARK ZERO (Xbox 360) - MGS


The really old games are probably not all owned by Microsoft.

Will probably be more of a SNES & N64 collection - that would be easiest to do.
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I think putting these games on disc is dumb, but they MUST do that, then they should release in 3 volumes.

Vol. I: NES
Vol. II: N64
Vol. III: Xbox/360

I can't stress enough how dumb it is to put 30 games from 30 years of history into a single disc. It's like saying these games are worth a couple of bucks each. Good god.
 
MAtgS

MAtgS

Member
Dear MS & Rare: I was waiting to pay you full price for a HD JFG with dual analog controls.

But this works too.
 
S

Shauni

Member
I was under the impression that games of the N64 couldn't have true HD remasters due to the tech (something polygon related, I believe), so I'm wondering about that aspect of this rumor.
 
D

Dr. Black Jack

Member
Salty Hippo said:
I think putting these games on disc is dumb, but they MUST do that, then they should release in 3 volumes.

Vol. I: NES
Vol. II: N64
Vol. III: Xbox/360

I can't stress enough how dumb it is to put 30 games from 30 years of history into a single disc. It's like saying these games are worth a couple of bucks each. Good god.
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OrbitalBeard

Member
Shauni said:
I was under the impression that games of the N64 couldn't have true HD remasters due to the tech (something polygon related, I believe), so I'm wondering about that aspect of this rumor.
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MS has already released HD versions of both Banjo titles alongside Perfect Dark.

These are not going to be remakes. If they are, serve me up a hefty helping of crow.

dose said:
So? They're going to have to remake 30 games lol. You think that's quick?
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No one said "remake"...I said "rework". I doubt every game would have to be redone from scratch. Then again, I'm not a programmer.

The idea of a bunch of old Rare games from different systems is not that far fetched.
 
O

Oddduck

Member
Kameo and Viva Pinata would be perfect for a collection like this.

Keeping fingers crossed for Jet Force Gemini too.
 
Lynd7

Lynd7

Member
We neeeed N64 Conker for multi alone. Also, various things were changed in the Xbox single player too :(
 
D

dose

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
No one said "remake"...I said "rework". I doubt every game would have to be redone from scratch. Then again, I'm not a programmer.

The idea of a bunch of old Rare games from different systems is not that far fetched.
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So what do you mean by rework? What do you think would need to be done?
 
N

NESpowerhouse

Perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him out of a plane.
If this includes Battletoads, then the internet is going to troll Rich from Pawn Stars even more.
 
S

Shauni

Member
OrbitalBeard said:
MS has already released HD versions of both Banjo titles alongside Perfect Dark.

These are not going to be remakes. If they are, serve me up a hefty helping of crow.
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I know the difference between a remaster and a remake, but I thought the Perfect Dark and Banjo releases were more in line of a remake, though? I know they weren't totally made from scratch, but I thought it was more in-between the two like Halo: CE or the OOT 3D. Were they just straight uprezzes of the N64 games?
 
J

jacobeid

Banned
Looks like I'm in the same boat as everyone else.

I'd only play Jet Force Gemini, Conker, Viva Pinata, Banjo 1+2, and Kameo.
 
T

topplehat

Member
Salty Hippo said:
I think putting these games on disc is dumb, but they MUST do that, then they should release in 3 volumes.

Vol. I: NES
Vol. II: N64
Vol. III: Xbox/360

I can't stress enough how dumb it is to put 30 games from 30 years of history into a single disc. It's like saying these games are worth a couple of bucks each. Good god.
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This post is satire, right?
 
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