goldenticket
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Yeah same. It would be great if leno becomes a punchline and his show bombsTrurl said:
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Late Night Wars - Conan's last Tonight Show was TONIGHT a long time ago
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That's awesome that Conan is gonna get out and NBC looks to be waiving the non-compete clause in his contract. I'm sure he'll find SOMETHING to do.
And just reading the transcript of Kimmel on Leno... that is fucking AWESOME. Kimmel has big brass ones for doing that shit :lol
And just reading the transcript of Kimmel on Leno... that is fucking AWESOME. Kimmel has big brass ones for doing that shit :lol
KHarvey16 said:
I don't think Jay will recover after this, especially from the tremendous ill will from the lucrative youth demographic. They may not have actively watched Conan every night and or opted to watch the show on-line and through digital media, but they certainly don't like that Conan is essentially being forced to choose between two terrible outcomes.
If CBS is smart, they will get Conan to replace Letterman when Letterman retires in a few years, while keeping Conan's profile up doing other things for the network, perhaps even a prime time Conan show that airs once a week and as guest host of the Late Show.
goldenticket
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They prob dont know there was an article by la times on zucker a few days ago. Im on iphone but if you google la times zucker you can find it. One point it madr is how he doesnt think long term and just scrambles from problem to problem looking for a quick fixKHarvey16 said:
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Deku said:
I doubt this entirely. I think it's much more likely he goes to Fox for something, as much as I'd like to see him taking over Letterman's show.
goldenticket
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I think so jay counted them off before each question. It wasnt until the last few jimmy started dropping the hammerxbhaskarx said:
Yeah, Ferguson is a genius.Narag said:
I just don't understand why he doesn't get better guests and a bit more money to, you know, actually do stuff. If you switch to Fallon who seems to pull essentially identical ratings most of the time... it's like watching two shows from two different centuries.
Don't get me wrong, the "crappiness" of show and studio is part of Ferguson's charm -- and I don't think he needs a band and certainly not a sidekick. But having a budget that'd actually allow him to do something other than reading e-mails (and booking better guests?) would be nice.
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KHarvey16 said:
I think they have finally realized that a man with Jay Leno's ego never retires, he just... persists.
goldenticket
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If for some reason he wants lettermans show or even the option he could sign a deal with fox that would expire right after lettermans current deal. I think lettermam has roughly three years left on his deal. But if conan is a hit on fox i dont see the point of taking lettermans spotBrandNew said:
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Deku said:
Letterman isn't set to retire until probably 5 years from now, if even that early, so the whole concept of Conan being able to be on another network during the tenure of his NBC contract would be, well, pointless, assuming that's the job he's aiming for. Unless Letterman tells him sometime here soon "hey, you're taking over for me buddy, hold tight" Conan should just take his chances on a network that could use a late night show. Conan seems to fit well with the Fox demographic, anyway.
To summarize tonight's shows.
Kimmel is the boss. I am watching his show regularly after the awesomeness of the last few nights. Freaking awesome.
It was tought for me to watch Conan. The guy seemed so sad at times. Resigned to lose his job. Bloody brutal. Watching a guy make people laugh after he's been publicly humiliated and fired is tough. Conan is one classy guy.
Fuck Leno. Fuck him to hell.
Kimmel is the boss. I am watching his show regularly after the awesomeness of the last few nights. Freaking awesome.
It was tought for me to watch Conan. The guy seemed so sad at times. Resigned to lose his job. Bloody brutal. Watching a guy make people laugh after he's been publicly humiliated and fired is tough. Conan is one classy guy.
Fuck Leno. Fuck him to hell.
rollingstart
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Ferguson is entertaining to watch because he seems natural and home-y. It's not just punch line after punch line and more having a conversation with the audience. Like, you don't see the others go on about musicals or top model for as long as Ferguson does.
Technically that would be the same situation as when Leno took Letterman's spot on the tonight show many years ago--except Conan playing the role of Leno and Ferguson playing Letterman.
Deku said:
Technically that would be the same situation as when Leno took Letterman's spot on the tonight show many years ago--except Conan playing the role of Leno and Ferguson playing Letterman.
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Kimmel is a total badass.noisome07 said:
Tonight Dave said that Les Moonves swung by to tell him how happy he is to have David on the network. I know I'm reading way too into it, but I kind of wondered if Les was actually saying "Please don't retire after your contract is up just to give Conan your show!"BrandNew said:
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Linkzg, I think it's fairly well known that Ferguson doesn't give two shits, and is perfectly fine with the show he hosts right now. Conan is much more the heir apparent to Letterman than Ferguson.
Lionheart1827
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Fuck Jay Leno.
Loved the Kimmel thing. :lol
Loved the Kimmel thing. :lol
KHarvey16 said:
Also, what the fuck are they going to do when Jay is back? I can see a sag in the ratings and a lot of people that wouldn't want to appear on the show because of all the horrific PR surrounding it once he takes it back. There's no logical reason to give it back to Leno. All NBC is setting their selves up for is giving Letterman a shit ton more viewers.
They have a bad situation in their hands currently, but what they're doing to solve it seems like they're trying everything thing within their power to just destroy any meaning the Tonight Show had. Maybe for the rest of this year they can get back on even footing with late night ratings, (doubt it) but what happens a few years from now? Guess none of the execs are thinking that far ahead considering they're all out of a job once Comcast owns the place...
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Trurl said:
This too. Dave isn't really gangbusters in terms of ratings or anything, but he's consistent and he has a pleasant relationship with his employers.
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Also you're crazy if you think Leno won't be number one after he takes back the Tonight Show. Us urbanites and internet guys hate him, but the dude wins over Middle pigfucking America.
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BrandNew said:
I know, I'm just saying it's a similar situation to back then.
Then again, if that was the game, we would have Late Night with Carson Daily.
goldenticket
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Maybe but i hope you are wrong.BrandNew said:
Oh wow, I didn't even think of that. Too bad they are not in a run right now.Esperado said:
Anyway, can't keep up this pace forever. All that's left is to go out with a bang. Just get every rival host or otherwise ridiculous/awesome guest to fill in the last week and see what happens.
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Just got off the phone with my mom. i made sure she watched Leno for the Kimmel thing. She tends to watch only the monologues and then get ready for bed. Shes over 70 and is not a Nielsen household any longer btw.
She says that she likes them all.. but didnt realize how underhanded Jay has been until recently. She also said why old people like Leno over Conan.. "My dad says he jumps around too much" :lol i asked her if her old timer friends felt like this too and she responded "Yes.. i think they dont like his energy. It tires them out" :lol So according to her its not so much the dirty jokes (she mentioned Johnny got close to that lots of times and nobody she knew had a problem with it) but its Conans constant movement.
i knew i could count on my mom to come through where my sister failed. My mom is the hippest, most active old person i know :lol
She says that she likes them all.. but didnt realize how underhanded Jay has been until recently. She also said why old people like Leno over Conan.. "My dad says he jumps around too much" :lol i asked her if her old timer friends felt like this too and she responded "Yes.. i think they dont like his energy. It tires them out" :lol So according to her its not so much the dirty jokes (she mentioned Johnny got close to that lots of times and nobody she knew had a problem with it) but its Conans constant movement.
i knew i could count on my mom to come through where my sister failed. My mom is the hippest, most active old person i know :lol
Personally, I don't like that because I don't have HBO. :lolwhytemyke said:
It would probably make a great show, but I think it might lower his profile a bit with the mass market. Also, has HBO ever done a show that was more than weekly? I can't how often the Chris Rock and Dennis Miller shows aired.
His across the board ratings might not be hurt too bad, but I think he might do far worse with young males than he used to do.
I would like to see a graph showing the overlap of people who enjoy Leno and people that enjoy Jeff Dunham.
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