What's the name of that really manly looking man with a vagina? Really ripped, tattoos, and beard? But with lady plumbing
He should walk into a restroom with the lawmakers wife and say he's in there because of her husband
I don't think we need gendered bathrooms.
I don't think we need gendered bathrooms.
Are you talking about the transgender porn star Buck Angel?
I agree with him in some aspects. Biological sex is the only way to objectively segregate people. That being said, I don't think his solution is a right one.
A lot of women don't feel safe in public unisex restrooms. I've only encountered them in clubs. I don't think this will change anytime soon.
So how many transvestite rapists have attacked people in bathrooms this year?
I know they are different, as one can dress as an opposite gender and still identify as their own. They can also, however, dress as an opposite gender and identify with that gender, as well.
I guess I'm still confused. What if a biological man, who doesn't look like a woman, goes into the women's room because he (or I suppose she) identifies as a woman? Is that OK? I think this is far less simple than you are making it out to be.
Full disclosure: I could care less who goes into what bathroom, but I think it's worth discussing as people seem to be very sensitive to this whole thing.
Kind of. I read it too fast before clicking the thread and thought it was about giving people the choice of which restroom they use.Is the title misleading for anyone else?
There are lots of types of unisex bathrooms.
A doorless corridor with unique individual stalls is a pretty good one
I think she would be understanding that until she begins/is a few months into transitioning, it would be rather awkward for her to enter the women's restroom - but once she begins transitioning, taking estrogen supplements, gaining secondary femininine characteristics, undergoing speech therapy, dressing and styling her hair more femininiely, it becomes just as awkward for men and increasingly awkward for her to be using the men's restroom.
He said gender identity was “subjective” and the birth sex of a transgender person is the only factor that should dictate which restroom they use.
“It’s their plumbing that determines where they go to the bathroom,” Artiles said. Asked to clarify, he added, “Their anatomy is going to dictate where they go to the bathroom.”.
This was exactly what I was going to say we should do....open bathrooms, maybe with a security camera for good measure depending on location, and stalls that give you real privacy. I think everyone would prefer that. Who likes sitting on the toilet in a public bathroom that has stalls with flimsy doors that give you semi-visual privacy and provide zero sound barrier? Bathroom stalls, at least in the US, are so damn shitty.
There are lots of types of unisex bathrooms.
A doorless corridor with unique individual stalls is a pretty good one
I don't think we need gendered bathrooms.
I wouldnt feel comfortable dropping a deuce next to my female coworkers
Actually I suspect this wouldn't even hold up.Asked if such a rule would create problems for transgender women required to use the men’s room, Artiles told BuzzFeed News, “People are not forced to go the restroom. They choose to go to the restroom.”
The point is they wouldn't know you were there. The experience privacy-wise would be more like using a porta-potty.
That seems like a pretty good solution. Although I suppose the real way to make it comfortable is the 3 restroom solution.
There are lots of types of unisex bathrooms.
A doorless corridor with unique individual stalls is a pretty good one
Never saw a single case reported.
I did saw thousands of cases of trans people beaten in either bathrooms
Yes they would, theyd see me step out of the stall, which makes it obvious Im dropping off the kids.
I think I read somewhere that some country was going to start requiring there to always be a third restroom option to address this issue. Probably in Southeast Asia but I'm not completely sure.
So how many transvestite rapists have attacked people in bathrooms this year?
The real question should be if women are comfortable with a guy who is dressed like a woman to enter the same bathroom as they do and vice versa for men. If they are not comfortable than safety overrules your own personal feelings on the matter.
I agree. The more I think about this the weirder having gender restricted bathrooms sound.Why have gender-restricted restrooms at all at this point?
I don't think we need gendered bathrooms.
The real question should be if women are comfortable with a guy who is dressed like a woman to enter the same bathroom as they do and vice versa for men. If they are not comfortable than safety overrules your own personal feelings on the matter.
Why have gender-restricted restrooms at all at this point?
I'm not comfortable with your level of knowledge about this matter, so maybe overrule yourself before posting on it again.The real question should be if women are comfortable with a guy who is dressed like a woman to enter the same bathroom as they do and vice versa for men. If they are not comfortable than safety overrules your own personal feelings on the matter.
So how many transvestite rapists have attacked people in bathrooms this year?
The real question should be if women are comfortable with a guy who is dressed like a woman to enter the same bathroom as they do and vice versa for men. If they are not comfortable than safety overrules your own personal feelings on the matter.
There are AN INFINITY WAY more news about trans people beaten on the wrong bathroom than cis women abused by a trans woman.
Than safety overrules your own personal feelings on the matter
You go to the bathroom you identify and feel most comfortable in.
Its not complicated at all. If you identify as male, you go to the guys room, you identify as female you go there.
Simple, and don't confuse crossdressing with transgender, they're completely different.
Bathrooms are for expelling waste from your body in as sanitary a way as possible. The junks you have in your pants doesn't matter since you aren't going to be showing it to people. Absolutely nothing prevents a trans woman with a penis from doing her business in the women's bathroom and same for trans men with vaginas in the men's.Only problem I have with that is at least in my view bathrooms are more of a bodily function thing than something associated with gender identity (Or how you view yourself and what 'role' you fit into). Like, if you go number 2 with a penis, you should go to the male restroom since they have urinals there. If not, you should go to the female restroom. If anyone can go to either restroom depending on what gender they view themselves as and not what they have down under to go with, then we mise as well just get rid of 'male' and 'female' restrooms since it would start to defeat the reason for having separate ones in the first place.
Bathrooms are for expelling waste from your body in as sanitary a way as possible. The junks you have in your pants doesn't matter since you aren't going to be showing it to people. Absolutely nothing prevents a trans woman with a penis from doing her business in the women's bathroom and same for trans men with vaginas in the men's.
This man is displaying a profound level of ignorance and lack of empathy and if I were running the country he would be in prison for life for being so stupid.
Which part is a choice? Nobody says 'I want to poop', 'I want to pee', and you can't pee outside of a restroom - so what choice is he talking about?
I don't disagree with you in theory, but in reality you are thinking too outside the box. The gender binary is a thing in our society, an unfortunate thing in a lot of ways, but a thing none the less. People are used to it and they expect so it's not going away any time soon. It's like saying we shouldn't give gay people the right to marry, but instead abolish marriage across the board. Maybe in 100s or 1000s of years when we are closer to actual equality in our society we could do the Starship Troopers thing and have everyone used the same facilities but there's no way it would fly today so suggesting it is pointless.I get your argument, and if bathrooms are going to be defined by your gender identity and not the junk you use to go with, then what's the point of bathrooms? Why have confusion on arbitrary things like what gender you view yourself as when you can just have a single bathroom for everyone?
I get your argument, and if bathrooms are going to be defined by your gender identity and not the junk you use to go with, then what's the point of bathrooms? Why have confusion on arbitrary things like what gender you view yourself as when you can just have a single bathroom for everyone?
I get your argument, and if bathrooms are going to be defined by your gender identity and not the junk you use to go with, then what's the point of bathrooms? Why have confusion on arbitrary things like what gender you view yourself as when you can just have a single bathroom for everyone?