... why? No seriously. Had an argument to a friend about this. If you don't want to use the handheld, then don't. Leave it in the dock and poof, it's a console now. Never have to remove it. It is now TV-only. Even if they did make a TV-only version, I doubt it would be much cheaper, if not cheaper at all.
This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
... why? No seriously. Had an argument to a friend about this. If you don't want to use the handheld, then don't. Leave it in the dock and poof, it's a console now. Never have to remove it. It is now TV-only. Even if they did make a TV-only version, I doubt it would be much cheaper, if not cheaper at all.
They're doing this to avoid brand confusion at launch. Once the brand has been established, they can go XL, Lite, New, 2--, or whatever the hell they call their refreshes. I'm not too keen on the idea of a home console only Switch, but they could just call it Switch Home. As for dockless SKU, the "switch" can still refer to changing control methods, switch to tablet mode, switch to portable display mode, etc.So what you would do later? Launch a tablet-less sku and call it Switch Noswitch? Call it something totally different and add stickers on the game boxes?
Perhaps, part of it was brand confusion. But a definite part of it was price, so I don't think the 3DS is a good example.Are we forgetting the fact that the 3DS kind-of tanked out of the gate? It's hardly the example to use when talking about avoiding brand confusion. For fuck's sake, the thing launched at a time that Nintendo was still selling the DSlite and DSi, making the 3DS look like the next iteration and not the true successor. It took a while for people to realize what was going on.
This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
LOL no, the presentation trailer was VERY crystal clear and so far consumer seems to get what the product is and isn't.This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
You still have to pay for a feature that's irrelevant for Non-Japanese audiences. Just like the U-Pad.
This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
Well, Vita TV was cheaper than the Vita and all Sony did was removing the screen.
Having a home unit without the portability component would require them to design a new 'console'.
Selling the handheld unit without the dock wouldn't make much of a difference in the end. The dock can't cost much if all it is is a dock with HDMI out.
In either case the Switch name stops making sense, and what makes the product unique gets taken out of the equation.
So yeah, Nintendo should just keep selling the complete package. No confusion, no hassle.
Yeah. People in America, we never use portable devices. Fucking hate them, in fact!
Oh shit! How'd that get there?
This argument can't be real. You are literally showing why dedicated handhelds are dead.
Yeah. People in America, we never use portable devices. Fucking hate them, in fact!
Oh shit! How'd that get there?
Sony did more than remove the screen, including the touch pad at the bottom plus some more inside its guts. Otherwise, every Vita game would be playable on PSTV.
Well you're assuming it will be a decent functional tablet for your argument. Others are assuming it won't be or that they don't care for a tablet in addition to their home consoles either. (I really hope it is a decent multi-functional device though, because I do want a decent tablet)Good thing the Switch isn't a dedicated handheld?
This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
Are you trying to say the Switch tablet will be in the same market as iPad and Android tablets? Lol good luck Nintendo then.
Are you trying to say the Switch tablet will be in the same market as iPad and Android tablets? Lol good luck Nintendo then.
Honestly though, what would be the point? If the handheld is that useless to you, then permanently leave it in the dock and use the pro controller. It's Nintendo, a hypothetical TV-only version isn't going to be like the PS4 Pro or Project Scorpio of the Switch, it'd just be a version of the system missing features.
This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
it'll be curious to see how much people care about the unique part of this. I have a vita and Vita TV and hardly ever use the actual vita now. The switch makes that swapping much more convenient though, will that appeal to enough people?In either case the Switch name stops making sense, and what makes the product unique gets taken out of the equation.
This implies a handheld only Switch later.
They're doing this to avoid brand confusion at launch. Once the brand has been established, they can go XL, Lite, New, 2--, or whatever the hell they call their refreshes. I'm not too keen on the idea of a home console only Switch, but they could just call it Switch Home. As for dockless SKU, the "switch" can still refer to changing control methods, switch to tablet mode, switch to portable display mode, etc..
Making Switch TV will require Nintendo to remove more stuffs than what Sony did for the PSTV, hence high possibly of Switch TV being cheaper than the hybrid sku.
This implies a handheld only Switch later.
This is going to be Wii U levels of confusion isn't it?
Damn Nintendo needs to get their stories straight. This was supposed to be the fresh start....
Nintendo considered internally the idea of selling the handheld portion separately, but had concerns that consumers who purchased the handheld without the dock may still think they could connect it to the TV.
Honestly though, what would be the point? If the handheld is that useless to you, then permanently leave it in the dock and use the pro controller. It's Nintendo, a hypothetical TV-only version isn't going to be like the PS4 Pro or Project Scorpio of the Switch, it'd just be a version of the system missing features.
Well that's why I'm not too keen on the idea, but you can still "switch" controller methods to a lesser extent. Still kind of stretching it though.That's my point though. The brand is Switch. Without the tablet there is no "Switch". Switch Home is a nonsense. This is what I'm talking when I say brand confusion. Calling it something without Switch in the name will again be a challenge.
At least the tablet you can say it's "Switch tablet" or something and you can market it as a second tablet for the same dock or as being able to buy the dock separately. Somewhere down the line.
But "Switch Home" is a totally different product.
No it does not.
It implies the possibility of it. Not that that is much better. But even Nintendo themselves still considered it and is possibly still considering it. Just not at launch.But also implies nothing at the same time. lol
Well rumors say a touchscreen, and they still have "surprises" to reveal. A major thing they haven't revealed is the OS which possibly could make it a decent tablet if it has good apps.Reading this thread, since when is the Switch a tablet?
Unless I'm mistaken, isn't the current PR line from Nintendo on the touchscreen basically: "No Comment."
You'd still have to pay for a feature that's irrelevant to Non-Japanese audiences. Just like the U-Pad.
The 2DS is a 3DS which is missing features, same as the Wii Mini and the Vita TV. A TV-only Switch model could be released later on that is cheaper and has no screen and battery. But they can't sell such thing on launch because it would cause confusion, much like none of the other console models I mentioned would be a bad idea at launch.
This was obvious. It's called SWITCH for crying out loud. I have no idea why people were expecting a "Switch-less" SKU. At launch or at any time, to be honest. Like, that's the whole gimmick. The guts are all in the handheld anyway so eventually the dock will be cheap enough to throw in there that any advantage of releasing a "handheld only" SKU will be negligible.