RenegadeXV8
Banned
Whether or not it's furry artstyle, it's completely repulsive and (along with the voice acting) turned me off from playing the game more than an hour.
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LTTP: Dust: an Elysian Tail
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Whether or not it's furry artstyle, it's completely repulsive and (along with the voice acting) turned me off from playing the game more than an hour.
StaffyManasse
Member
This furry business was precisely what I had in mind when I made the thread.
How does this work? Do I need to state I am not one of those guys if I talk about the game?
I'm sorry but I'm a bit annoyed and surprised. To me this was a nostalgic trip to my childhood. I quess if you haven't grown up with cartoon characters like these you can't see it. Like, if I'd show a screenshot to some of my friends, none of them would think furries, or even know what the term means.
How does this work? Do I need to state I am not one of those guys if I talk about the game?
I'm sorry but I'm a bit annoyed and surprised. To me this was a nostalgic trip to my childhood. I quess if you haven't grown up with cartoon characters like these you can't see it. Like, if I'd show a screenshot to some of my friends, none of them would think furries, or even know what the term means.
FriedConsole
Banned
It is the perfect PS+ game. Paid no extra money for a game that is fun for a couple hours and then got completely bored.
FriedConsole
Banned
Yeah I didn't see anything creepy about it. The Internet has made people see creepy things. I watched Thundecats as a kid but now that would be dismissed as creepy.
KojiKnight
Member
My opinion is still unchanged on the game... It's a great concept marred by it's artstyle and the simple fact that it gets really repetitive really fast. I originally thought it was me coming off of Muramasa which lead me to think that... but even ages later, it's still really hard to play continually.
Fbh
Member
I've been playing a bit of this and despite the fact that I'm not a fan of the furry look, it's pretty enjoyable. I specially like the combat system, it's fast, fluid and looks great.
I just wish they didn't focus so much on the story and just went for a more traditional "metroidvania" formula. I arrived at some time and now I'm suddently asked to do all sorts of boring fetch quests which I don't care about.
Does anyone know if I will miss many locations/items/levels by simply ingoring the optional stuff and focusing on the main story?
I just wish they didn't focus so much on the story and just went for a more traditional "metroidvania" formula. I arrived at some time and now I'm suddently asked to do all sorts of boring fetch quests which I don't care about.
Does anyone know if I will miss many locations/items/levels by simply ingoring the optional stuff and focusing on the main story?
Fidget was the best part of the game (well, besides the combat, and art style and... ok, I still really liked Fidget). And hilarious at Noogy's PAX East panel.
prodystopian
Member
I really enjoyed the game overall. Like others I wish the combat were deeper and that some of the attacks weren't so exploitable. The problem I had with the story was that it seemed to be poking fun at itself early on, but then started taking itself seriously at the end. I'll almost definitely be playing Noogy's next game.
I platinumed and loved it and even really liked Fidgets voice acting, but gameplay wise Fidgets moves broke the game. Aside from starting the combo, I never used Dust that much, just blasted the whole screen with Fidgets homing missiles and firebombs.
People really blow the furry stuff out of proportion, especially since its artstyle - aside from the talk screens - appeals to me much more than pixel indie projects.
People really blow the furry stuff out of proportion, especially since its artstyle - aside from the talk screens - appeals to me much more than pixel indie projects.
Oh, I love this game. It's one of the few games I bothered to finish >100%.
The combat system is really quite simple, but it feels and looks amazing. You can basically turn into a drill that will pierce the heavens and score sick combos. And you can destroy an airship by piledrving. I'm not certain you can piledrive the actual airship, that part of the game was pretty chaotic. There was a lot of airships and a lot of piledriving, explosions happened.
And about the whole furry thing... I don't really care. The characters can be a group of sentient rubbish bins as long as the gameplay is fun and engaging.
Last, but not least - how can you hate a merchant that will buy it for a high price?
The combat system is really quite simple, but it feels and looks amazing. You can basically turn into a drill that will pierce the heavens and score sick combos. And you can destroy an airship by piledrving. I'm not certain you can piledrive the actual airship, that part of the game was pretty chaotic. There was a lot of airships and a lot of piledriving, explosions happened.
And about the whole furry thing... I don't really care. The characters can be a group of sentient rubbish bins as long as the gameplay is fun and engaging.
Last, but not least - how can you hate a merchant that will buy it for a high price?
Rekki-Maru
Banned
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I actually beat that a few days ago. I think it's a solid game, and the fact that it's made by one person (other than the music, which was also pretty good) is really, really impressive.
Sure, combat was a bit repetitive, but it was more than serviceable, and the Metroidvania abilities didn't go that deep, but it still had a few cool secrets, and good gods that art... stunning. Not the characters -- not a fan of the Disney-like anthropomorphic animals (or, for those dirtier minds, the "furry" look) -- but the backgrounds were legit jaw-dropping. The artist is clearly very talented.
Fidget was legit annoying, though. Sorry Noogy don't know what you were thinking, especially with that super-squeaky voice. There were a few times where her lines were mildly funny (the Castlevania 2 reference where she says "that didn't make any sense!" got a chuckle out of me, for instance), but for the most part it's not cute or funny, it's just really grating.
The last boss was bit underwhelming, too, which is too bad. A game like this could have used more giant awesome badass bosses. For those complaining that it's too easy, have you played on Hard? It's not a very hard game even on Hard but it's still a decent challenge, though once you start stacking regen accessories and health consumables are no longer an issue, you get a bit OP. Near the end I had tons of those in my inventory and almost never needed them, but the early to mid-game on Hard was decently challenging.
Anyway, it was a fun game and one of the few PS+ games I played to completion and I think it's definitely one of the better indie games I've played. Congrats to Noogy for a very impressive solo effort.
Sure, combat was a bit repetitive, but it was more than serviceable, and the Metroidvania abilities didn't go that deep, but it still had a few cool secrets, and good gods that art... stunning. Not the characters -- not a fan of the Disney-like anthropomorphic animals (or, for those dirtier minds, the "furry" look
) -- but the backgrounds were legit jaw-dropping. The artist is clearly very talented. Fidget was legit annoying, though. Sorry Noogy
don't know what you were thinking, especially with that super-squeaky voice. There were a few times where her lines were mildly funny (the Castlevania 2 reference where she says "that didn't make any sense!" got a chuckle out of me, for instance), but for the most part it's not cute or funny, it's just really grating. The last boss was bit underwhelming, too, which is too bad. A game like this could have used more giant awesome badass bosses. For those complaining that it's too easy, have you played on Hard? It's not a very hard game even on Hard but it's still a decent challenge, though once you start stacking regen accessories and health consumables are no longer an issue, you get a bit OP. Near the end I had tons of those in my inventory and almost never needed them, but the early to mid-game on Hard was decently challenging.
Anyway, it was a fun game and one of the few PS+ games I played to completion and I think it's definitely one of the better indie games I've played. Congrats to Noogy for a very impressive solo effort.
You could skip all of the cut scenes, at least.
Lord British
Member
What on earth does insecurity have to do with this purely aesthetic preference?
Really? That's awesome. Very much enjoyed the game.
SerTapTap
Member
*ctrl f "furr"*
Ah, there it is.
I hope you don't discount the game's gameplay entirely. I can understand appreciating the cartoony style, but I found the game pretty fun to play and wander around in too. My only complaint is the map, makes it a bit hard to tell why you abandoned trying to access an area. But good Metroidvania maps are hard. Background art is great too. Extremely impressive for a one(?) person game.
Combat's pretty fun, I love that move where you use the spinny attack on Fidget's little spark ball. It's not super deep but Metroidvanias are rarely all about the combat. Also mysterious wall chicken is the best.
Ah, there it is.
I hope you don't discount the game's gameplay entirely. I can understand appreciating the cartoony style, but I found the game pretty fun to play and wander around in too. My only complaint is the map, makes it a bit hard to tell why you abandoned trying to access an area. But good Metroidvania maps are hard. Background art is great too. Extremely impressive for a one(?) person game.
Combat's pretty fun, I love that move where you use the spinny attack on Fidget's little spark ball. It's not super deep but Metroidvanias are rarely all about the combat. Also mysterious wall chicken is the best.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Oh yeah that was great.
shadowfall
Member
It is funny that this thread came up. I started playing it over the weekend. I was looking for some light hearted games and picked this one for my PS4. I am 2 chapters in. I am in love with this game. The characters are so adorable esp Fidget, I have no issues with voice acting. Story is decent. RPG elements are cool. Game play is simple. If this is really a 1 man effort, I salute the game creator. I am looking forward to finish this game.
Jeronimo Jones
Member
This kind of mirrors my experience.
I had started and only played for about 30 minutes previously, since it was a PS+ game, but put in a some time again on Saturday until I got to the 1st village where you get multiple quests. I decided to stop there, but I could see myself playing more of it.
I gave it another shot because I was able to clear out some of my backlog and was looking for something short and fun.
I had started and only played for about 30 minutes previously, since it was a PS+ game, but put in a some time again on Saturday until I got to the 1st village where you get multiple quests. I decided to stop there, but I could see myself playing more of it.
I gave it another shot because I was able to clear out some of my backlog and was looking for something short and fun.
Muskieratboi
Member
Hey, Noogy, I'll reiterate:
Dust was awesome.
'Nuff said.
Dust was awesome.
'Nuff said.
I remember around launch the creators deviant art page was posted and it was full of furry art. I think its safe to assume it was intended as a furry game.
Hell, the little annoying bat thing has boobs.
Alec
Member
Weird, I start playing this just last week for the first time when I was super bored and had nothing else to play.
During the first half hour or so, my wife and I were both like "wtf is this furry shit". But after a little while longer, I couldn't put it down. The gameplay is so good. I was hooked. I'm going to try and finish up the Platinum on it tonight.
The story was fine. I have quite a few ideas on how it could've been improved, but it's whatever. Every time there was a cutscene or someone spoke, my wife was like "oh my God please turn this shit off". But the game itself was just too good to put down.
During the first half hour or so, my wife and I were both like "wtf is this furry shit". But after a little while longer, I couldn't put it down. The gameplay is so good. I was hooked. I'm going to try and finish up the Platinum on it tonight.
The story was fine. I have quite a few ideas on how it could've been improved, but it's whatever. Every time there was a cutscene or someone spoke, my wife was like "oh my God please turn this shit off". But the game itself was just too good to put down.
Serviam
Member
I second that. A nice throwback to games of yore with stunning artwork and fun gameplay. I 100% it because I love finding all stuff in metroidvanias. Will buy a sequel day one if there ever is one. Great job Noogy!
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Not all humanoid animals are furries. See: a million cartoon characters throughout history, Disney movies, and so forth.
Just because a subculture emerged that wants to fuck Donald Duck doesn't make him a furry.
I guess I'm just not clear on the delineations in the furry genre. Is it only sexualized humanoid animals, with muscles or tits, or is it any representation of an animal creature that walks on two legs? I want to believe there is a nonsexual strain of humanoid animal art. Do people still jack off to the characters without overt sexual characteristics?
(Yeah, the bat thing did kind of have boobs. I didn't like her at all, but I still didn't read her as sexual in any way.)
Alec
Member
The Australian guy with the big ears definitely gave me Disney vibes.
But Fidget has boobs. :-\ Although I did really like some of her dialogue.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Funny thing there; apparently Fidget doesn't have actual boobs. Her hovering animation involves the forepaws being held up together, which a number of people apparently thought where huge breasts.
I believe when the paws are down, Fidget just has a fox-like tuft of bushy fur from the neck down covering the chest.
Alec
Member
StaffyManasse
Member
I can't believe I'm writing this but yeah, I think they are paws, not boobs.
Edit: okay then, maybe I was mistaken
Edit: okay then, maybe I was mistaken
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
It's a big puff of fur; there's even ragged fur under the bottom edge of it. Of course, it's supposed to be a girl and the chest is round.
Lola from Space Jam has a female upper body too.
To me, furrys are (generally) humanoid animals with very sexualized looks. This can be muscles, boobs, or even Human sexual parts. Usually involving wolfs, tigers, panthers, etc. Not sure why.
I'd post examples but I really, REALLY do not want to load up any of that crap.
And yes there are examples of non-furry animal art. Things like Ninja Turtles are 100% not intended as furry at all. Or King from Summer Wars.
Now this doesn't mean that twisted furrys Dont take these things and create new furry art with them. Since they are awful they love to ruin things :/
Alec
Member
Are we...disagreeing? I can't tell.
I'm just calling a spade a spade. Noogy even has his own entry on WikiFur: http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Dean_Dodrill
Nothing to be ashamed about. Dust is still a great game.
KimonoNoNo
Member
Off topic: I'd love a Summer Wars game with King Kazama.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
I just think it's weird that people fixate on things like female cartoon characters having female features, regardless of whether it's a human character or a talking rabbit. Or whatever Fidget is.
At a certain point it does begin to feel a bit paranoid, as if many people allow the existence of something like the furry fandom to affect their perspective too much.
My favorite:
His super move would be squid, squid, and more squid. And then you get crushed by a falling boat.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
You honestly don't know what a Furry is?
Lol. Okay last off topic post but a Summer Wars fighting game would be so funny. Round 1 you play as the people IRL, then second round you play as them in the actual game world with the avatars.
Obviously allow options to play as just avatars or just humans. And allow for CUSTOM CHARACTERS!!!
Lord British
Member
How could you take this comment from me...
...and extrapolate that I don't know what a furry is? Sheesh. I asked what not liking furry art has to do with insecurity, when it's nothing more than an aesthetic preference.
As for Dust, I'll go back to it someday, but I didn't like the story/characters and the gameplay didn't do much for me either. Just not my bag. Great achievement though. Runs incredibly well on PC, too.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
The stigma around Furries is huge, It has everything to do with insecurity. "They draw furry art/dress up like animals, therefore it is different and threatens my worldview!"
SerTapTap
Member
Fidget was the best part of the game (well, besides the combat, and art style and... ok, I still really liked Fidget). And hilarious at Noogy's PAX East panel.
I forgot about Fidget! I love fidget. "Ah, he'll buy it at a high price!". I can see why she's controversial like Claptrap but I think she's a great injection of fun into the dialog.
She's a nimbat! Which is some sort of cat bat rabbit abomination that's cute as the dickens.
Lord British
Member
Heck, I got no problem with furries. Go nuts, it's your lives. I just don't care for the art, quite a few people don't. I disagree that it's necessarily a prejudice thing.
Machinehead
Member
The art is objectively very, very ugly, but it fits together in a strangely nice way. The lighting and contrast, and the way characters separate themselves from the background, and the simple outlines when zoomed out just... work.
And the voice acting, albeit similar to Saturday morning cartoons - horrible - at first glance, is very consistent and shows a surprising range. The characters make sense in the universe, and it helps that the story is not garbage. Story that actually supports gameplay.
Even with some minor gripes with combat, simple gameplay system and some dumb backtracking, I had a much, much better time than I hoped with the game. The ending is particularly special - much better than many of the last games I've played. Cliche, sure, but not tastelessly so. It even ends up being emotional.
Really, this game was a very nice surprise for me. I'd recommend everyone who got it through plus to give it a try, if combat mildly interests you.
And the voice acting, albeit similar to Saturday morning cartoons - horrible - at first glance, is very consistent and shows a surprising range. The characters make sense in the universe, and it helps that the story is not garbage. Story that actually supports gameplay.
Even with some minor gripes with combat, simple gameplay system and some dumb backtracking, I had a much, much better time than I hoped with the game. The ending is particularly special - much better than many of the last games I've played. Cliche, sure, but not tastelessly so. It even ends up being emotional.
Really, this game was a very nice surprise for me. I'd recommend everyone who got it through plus to give it a try, if combat mildly interests you.
If you would like to see noogy's (Dean's) absolutely incredible PAX East 2013 panel on the making of Dust, here is a video of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTx4st4yG9k
It's a bit shakey, unfortunately.
The amazing part is that rather than use Powerpoint, Dean coded the entire presentation within Dust's engine, with Fidget doing a bit of the presenting. It was very entertaining and informative, not to mention imaginative. Go watch it.
My son and I saw it in person, and it was one of the highlights of PAX that year for me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTx4st4yG9k
It's a bit shakey, unfortunately.
The amazing part is that rather than use Powerpoint, Dean coded the entire presentation within Dust's engine, with Fidget doing a bit of the presenting. It was very entertaining and informative, not to mention imaginative. Go watch it.
My son and I saw it in person, and it was one of the highlights of PAX that year for me.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
WTF? Objectively? You're gonna have to justify such a bold claim, lol.
But yeah, truly hideous:
/s
You want gore in a Saturday morning cartoon-like game? Come on... :\
Nonsense.