Familienoberhauptvogel
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Nissa is the third PW in Amonkhet. We have the artworks for Gideon, Liliana and Nissa.
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Magic: the Gathering |OT10| Aether Revolt - That shit that make your Soul Burn slow
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Worst insertion as a card is Nissa, because she has no reason to be a card in that specific set, though I guess she probably made it in because Kaladesh was designed under 18 month rotation. Worst appearance on art has to be Dramatic Reversal, because before then the story was "The Jundwatch goes to Kaladesh while Jace/Gideon invesigate Vraska" AKA Alright as a thing a group would do, but then Jace shows up on a fucking Common being like "THE GANG'S ALL HERE" and you just scream.
Honestly, with how the story worked out, Nissa didn't need a card(Except for her interactions with Yahenni), who I'm 90% Certain story admitted they didn't plan for being a thing. If they had to include a 6th walker, I'd much rather they give us Rashmi as a Planeswalker or something over Nissa.
Then for Balance you could have had Ajani, Chandra, Saheeli, and Baan in Kaladesh, Rashmi and Tezzeret in Aether Revolt. That's 2 White Walkers, 4 Blue Walkers, 1 Black walker, 2 Red Walkers, 2 Green Walkers. You might have to tweak colors on one of the newcomers, but Rashmiwalker would have been better.
That's why you Help Nissa get there with Doubling Season/Oath of Gideon/What have you. Get her to Ult Range the turn you cast her(Proliferate/What have you), Ult, enjoy Cantripping with each land you play.
Honestly, with how the story worked out, Nissa didn't need a card(Except for her interactions with Yahenni), who I'm 90% Certain story admitted they didn't plan for being a thing. If they had to include a 6th walker, I'd much rather they give us Rashmi as a Planeswalker or something over Nissa.
Then for Balance you could have had Ajani, Chandra, Saheeli, and Baan in Kaladesh, Rashmi and Tezzeret in Aether Revolt. That's 2 White Walkers, 4 Blue Walkers, 1 Black walker, 2 Red Walkers, 2 Green Walkers. You might have to tweak colors on one of the newcomers, but Rashmiwalker would have been better.
That's why you Help Nissa get there with Doubling Season/Oath of Gideon/What have you. Get her to Ult Range the turn you cast her(Proliferate/What have you), Ult, enjoy Cantripping with each land you play.
Considering that it sees no modern play, no it doesn't.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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My superfriends deck is Jeskai coloured.
Considering that they mentioned meeting about possibly unbanning it, I wouldn't say never. Price is not why he is banned...
That deck gets smacked by tron and eldrazi so I don't see how it's any different from other bg goodstuff decks.
I would actually love it if the new Gideon took inspiration from mother of runes and protected a permanent for a turn from a color of your choice. It's probably too broken but I like the idea.
Are you aware that twin was once a standard deck and it didn't get banned? Cat is here to stay.
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They generally try to color-balance the planeswalkers throughout the block. My guess is they thought using Nissa again was better than introducing a 3rd new walker in the block.
Using Nissa again doesn't really bother me. The bigger problem is that mechanically Vital Force doesn't really do anything that feels connected to anything Kaladesh was doing in terms of limited, constructed or story. Maybe they purposely did that to make her feel like a fish out of water, but it didn't really pay off.
SigmasonicX
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Bit of a clarification on red not being able to transform lands. Though he's still against red turning lands into Mountains, he isn't necessarily against red turning lands into Wastes.
Also, the inclusion of converge in BFZ was a mistake
Also, the inclusion of converge in BFZ was a mistake
In a standard with strong spell interaction and caw blade. Which would have been even more dominate because of the twin combo. Its just the deck got banned before we really saw twin blade come to fruitition.
You could say this about a ton of standard decks from head past. The point is that the combo was perfectly fine in that standard and it didn't get banned. I expect to see no bans for standard because wizards wouldn't do two bannings in a row. It would kill players trust in standard which matters a lot. There is a reason why the delta between bannings was over 5 years.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Funny this card
Is actually drawn by Magali Villeneuve
Because they knew they couldn't justify the best Goblin token:
Man, I wish BotW had Bokoblins with beards. That token art is just fantastic.
It's not even essential for the deck that's making it spike. I traded into the deck yesterday on MTGO (so happy to drop Tron, deck is pretty annoying to play right now) and might add 1 for a bit more consistency but I'm not sweating it. I imagine it will drop down to around $5 soon
Which deck is spiking it?
Modern UR Gifts Storm. Having Baral really helps the deck out.
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Blame 8th Edition being "One card from every past set!" For it existing In Modern.
I actually thought that gave it a weakness since Ascension isn't vulnerable to the same kinds of removal. How does it even beat removal heavy decks?
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I mean, a 1U sorcery to tutor up a blue instant isn't exactly something usually in high demand in Modern so it's pretty forgivable to be unaware it exists.
Angry Grimace
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Yeah, the only reason I knew about it was that I was playing a Griselbrand-Oath of Druids-Storm deck (yeah I know, trust me it was hilarious) in MTGO Vintage for a while and I ran a singleton of it, but was surprised to find the only way I could get it was in 8th Edition white border.
Fun fact: Merchant Scroll is Restricted in Vintage, but not banned in either Modern or Legacy.
I guess the CC fuckup does explain the merchant scroll spike, as it did not make any sense.
Being able to tutor Ancestral Recall might have something to do with that
Being able to tutor Ancestral Recall might have something to do with that
Angry Grimace
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I guess the CC fuckup does explain the merchant scroll spike, as it did not make any sense.
Being able to tutor Ancestral Recall might have something to do with that
I mean, Storm decks in and of themselves are kind of broken in Vintage, so a lot of cards that enable them are restricted even though they aren't in other formats; e.g. Lion's Eye Diamond, Brainstorm, Ponder. The ability to play Yawgmoth's Will kind of helps Storm be super good in that format.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Merchant Scroll is also played in legacy high tide. Once I get a FoW I'll porbably put it into Zur EDH.
Having 7 creatures instead of 4 helps a lot. It's usually not hard to find a replacement creature with your filtering cards. Also, often you can hold your creature until turn 3 or 4 when your opponent is tapped out and just drop it and go off.
Empty the Warrens is also strong against those decks, even storm count 4 or 5 is usually good enough.
The real killers are graveyard hate and hand disruption.
Many decks had very few answers to Ascension though if any and as the game went on the advantage it proved became pretty overwhelming. As someone who just recently put together grixis control, the new UR storm seems like one of my best matchups now. Like my hands would have to be pretty unfortunate for me to lose.
Angry Grimace
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My biggest problem with having any interest in a deck that finishes with Grapeshot or Empty the Warrens is that WOTC fucking hates those decks.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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If someone at my LGS picks up the deck I'm going to side in trickbind just for the heck of it.
Angry Grimace
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Side in Mindbreak Trap for the hell of it.
When I used to play Pod I always played a singleton Eidolon of Rhetoric in the sideboard which literally wins the game by itself.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Also an option, trickbind is easier to cast in matchups were mindbreak trap isn't relevant for Merfolk.
Angry Grimace
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The problem with boarding in anything for Storm is that Storm isn't any good.
A blue control deck good against storm? Why I never.
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Storm was actually pretty good against slower, removal heavy decks before for the reason I gave. Now it's a super uphill battle. Before = "how do I beat this Ascension?" Now = "how could I possibly lose when I run 11+ cheap spot removal and 4 Snapcasters?" But please, snark away...
Angry Grimace
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Pyromancer Ascension seems like a tough matchup for blue-based control to me, but I'm no expert with the deck.
It was actually a control deck before Modern when Faeries ran around rampant. Volcanic Fallout was a valid reason to play red. Didn't need Storm to win.
It evolved in Modern because of the turn 3/4 kills. That's what's ruining Modern at the moment. Either you have disruption or you lose.
Angry Grimace
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Nothing is ruining Modern at the moment.
The latest Pyromancer Ascensions decks were not storm decks either. They kill you with burn and Things in the Ice. I haven't seen the deck since the Git Probe banning though.
Also, Modern is fine. Nothing is ruining modern.
Death's Shadow is probably the only deck with potential to be oppressive. Hard to effectively hate out the deck when it's an aggro deck with 8 pieces of hand disruption. Gotta lean pretty hard on Leyline of Sanctity lol. I'm having trouble thinking of any bad matchups for it.
Just saw this Reddit thread about a new event finder app/website, Topdecked.me, and thought I'd share it here. Looks pretty promising for being brand new. We'll see how it compares to Scry.land and MTGFinder.com long term.
I'd say the grixis control with fatal push is favored. You have burn to kill them if they drop too low, it's hard for them to control your hand with your cantrips/visions and snappys ability to reuse discarded spells, and you have 5+ removal spells that can kill durable threats between terminate and push.
Jund, Junk, Abzan Coco, WR Prison also have good match ups against it. Some others like Merfolk, Affinity and Bant Eldrazi are 50/50. It's a great deck, quite possibly the best in Modern, but it's not oppressive.
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