Still pretty expensive, just not 8 mana expensive. Should be fun in EDH if you target the one player without enchantment removal.
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Still pretty expensive, just not 8 mana expensive. Should be fun in EDH if you target the one player without enchantment removal.
ThLunarian
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Still pretty expensive, just not 8 mana expensive. Should be fun in EDH if you target the one player without enchantment removal.
Might be worth it?
I'm no expert on Modern, but doesn't this completely torpedo almost every deck in the format if it hits the board?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
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pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
What a lock. Iona + this card. People will literally refuse to play you.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Never, also needs a sac outlet and can still just be removed. its not like there's a ton of activated abilities that destroy 8 mana enchantments from noncreatures I guess it stops oblivion stone
I have this guy at my other LGS that already tells me that every time, I don't even remember why.
ThLunarian
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Do people play cards that can get rid of this thing though? What enchantment removal is commonly played in Modern?
The only deck that I guess would be okay with this on the board would be a big-mana Tron deck, since it doesn't stop Karn and the Eldrazi cast triggers still happen. But I don't know what other decks would be able to do.
I kinda want to build a Modern deck around this card now, and I haven't played constructed Magic in years
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
nature's claim
Bad Negator clone. Could see some sideboard if standard becomes very durdly.
Bad card is bad.
Better than Humility with Academy Rector. Might try it to annoy people to death.
Dece. Doesn't feel like a rare at all though.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
If there weren't so many red wraths/removal, WB Zombies could do some serious work. Still can if it gets lucky.
Zombies probably one of the best decks in the format at the moment. Red sweepers aren't that amazing against them if you don't have a followup play. Last Friday I wiped the board with Flames, they play a Colossus, and I die. I'm not saying it's unbeatable, it absolutely is, but with Marvel out of the picture it's a tier 1 deck.
EDIT: Oh, you meant WB specifically. I'm personally not a big fan because it's not as fast.
EDIT: Oh, you meant WB specifically. I'm personally not a big fan because it's not as fast.
Giant Panda
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Ammit seems better than Negator to me. Champion of wits looks bad for a rare.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I mean that'd be good for me since Zombie is basically free wins for U/r but I feel like Zombies lost out on the marvel ban since the midrange decks can all tech much easier against them.
TheBlackMarvel
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I was just about to askk what happened to that.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
This set is just killing me.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
with lord of extinction lol. Draw 40 discard 2.
Unraveling Mummy - 1WB
Creature - Zombie - 2/3
1W : Target attacking zombie gains lifelink until end of turn.
1B : Target attacking zombie gains deathtouch until end of turn.
"We are no longer in control."
-Elekh, Vizier of Embalming
So that is where he went
Yeah I keep having the same reaction to these cards getting spoiled. "Oh this will be great in my 'insert duels deck here' deck...oh wait I forgot wizards decided to go back on what they said and fuck over all the people who have been playing duels."
A Serious Man
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Didn't see this posted yet. Seems.... ok. Not too great, but not terrible. Could be good against a control deck if cast early at least.
If only CoCo was still around.
Joe Molotov
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Zombie Crocodile Demon is a pretty good creature type.
blindrocket
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Wow.
They did it. They actually reprinted Humility.
They must -really- have it out for Judges
This card is going into a couple of my Commander decks.
I already have Humility as well.
You're a monster
And here's the Gift:
I hope Bolas kept the receipt
SigmasonicX
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Creating a 4/4 haste creature every turn on its own is good at that cost, so it's perfectly fine.
pelicansurf
Needs a Holiday on Gallifrey
You need creatures in graveyards though. A lot of them in order for this to be remotely good (it's not).
Gate to the Afterlife helps you get creatures in your graveyard.
It isn't great, but it has Johnny combo/build-around potential. I'd rather it be super niche anyway, since universally strong Artifacts suck (see: Kaladesh).
Remembrance
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To be fair it wasn't much of a stretch.
Infinite Stars
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I actually wish they had done that. That's pretty genius.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Do y'all really want more artifacts that revolve around bypassing creature costs to be Constructed playable?
"God's Beard!"
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SigmasonicX
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It eternalizes for free, and with embalm creature cards, it makes them bigger, so I don't see why it would be bad to mix them.
I certainly wouldn't grab Gate unless you already have Gift picked out, but at the same time, Gift is a lot less appealing if you don't have Gate to fetch it out for cheap.
Quite the conundrum.
The Technomancer
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Gate is not going to help you fetch this thing in Limited. When is the last time you had six creatures in the yard in a Limited game like...ever?
Imperfected
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At Amonkhet prerelease I played Green/Red into three decks running Dusk // Dawn.
Wizards of the Coast continues to make me hate how Red and Black have so few ways to deal with enchantments.
If you're going to make two colors unable to deal with a type of permanent, stop making cards like this.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Now, now there's Chaos Warp which MaRo hates because it breaks the colour pie of red getting crappy cards.
Clearly the solution is to never play RB in EDH. Just add another color. Even if it's just for enchantment removal.
Fuck, WotC can be really stupid sometimes.
I agree I run o stone in edh just for artifacts and shitty enchantments in my mono black deck.
Karn is there too for those things as well for a bit of redundancy but o stone is generally better.
This is a bullshit card with all the limitations that they have. White can literally deal with every permanent type save for planeswalkers. It is a silly adherence to something that causes negative gameplay for casual players where this is going to most negatively affect players. Would a 4 mana destroy or o ring type effect be played outside EDH or casual setting, I doubt it.
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